[Tiamatha]

Trake, on 03 July 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:

I disagree. Somebody suggested that they might spawn with a different role each time. Lynch one and find out maybe?

Also, what if a 3rd spawn shows up if they both survive to the next day?


I'm not saying they are ideal lynches. I'm saying that they are a safe lynch to get in before the 4 day freeze.

I'm for this. I'd like to see Fener burn some creep away before the 4day freeze, too. I also want to see if tomorrow will bring updated tile occupation lists.

Remove vote
Vote Tiamantha

OMGUS.

Vote Trake

[Demelain]

why are we not leaving Tiam and Rashan to NA's and focusing the lynch on other targets?

[Emurlahn]

Holy cow, we're back playing in full force... thought it was a lull due to the holiday. Give me some time to catch up...

[Ultama]

Demelain, on 03 July 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

why are we not leaving Tiam and Rashan to NA's and focusing the lynch on other targets?

I thought I covered that about ten posts back when I removed from Mockra.

[Nimander Golit]

I don't see the point of voting tiam/rash when they'll be easy to kill at night with Attacks.

remove vote
vote Mockra

because I don't find the justification as easy to believe as Ultama does

[Ultama]

Emurlahn, on 03 July 2013 - 05:38 PM, said:

Holy cow, we're back playing in full force... thought it was a lull due to the holiday. Give me some time to catch up...

Oh look who's back just in time for a 4 day break.

[Demelain]

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

Demelain, on 03 July 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

why are we not leaving Tiam and Rashan to NA's and focusing the lynch on other targets?

I thought I covered that about ten posts back when I removed from Mockra.

you said that you believed mockras justification.

and you think that tiam and rashan add to the votes needed. But killing them off and having them respawn isnt going to make one lick of difference.
lynching them to see if they have a different role...wont NA'ing them have the same effect?

[Emurlahn]

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

It is now Day 3. Timer is frozen with 34 hours remaining.

Players alive: Alkend, Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tellan, Tiamatha, Trake, Ultama

12 votes to lynch, 12 votes to go to night.

13 votes for Tiamatha (Gait, Emurlahn, Nimander Golit, Ultama, Korbas, Tellan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Kedeviss, Trake, Fener, Alkend, Liosan,)


Players not voted: Alkend, Barghast, Demelain,Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Tiamatha, Trake,

Tiamatha has been lynched. She was a Vord Keeper.

You guys lynched with 34 hours left on the clock.

It is now Night 3. I am going to say 2 hours left on the clock, to give me enough time to get everything together to resolve Night, despite what Venge said earlier about Night starting at the lynch.

Yay. IIRC I think Nimander was as anti-Tiamatha as possible, so probably safe to assume he's not Vord...

[Ultama]

Demelain, on 03 July 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

Demelain, on 03 July 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

why are we not leaving Tiam and Rashan to NA's and focusing the lynch on other targets?

I thought I covered that about ten posts back when I removed from Mockra.

you said that you believed mockras justification.

and you think that tiam and rashan add to the votes needed. But killing them off and having them respawn isnt going to make one lick of difference.
lynching them to see if they have a different role...wont NA'ing them have the same effect?

Have you ever taken a Turing test? Did you pass???

I do believe Mockra's explanation. Hence the remove vote.

As for Tiam/Rashan, I said that either of them would make a safe choice for a lynch before the timer freezes for the 4 day weekend.

Maybe you can ask your baby sitter to explain that to you?

[Emurlahn]

Ultama, on 02 July 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

We know there are two more names than players on the signup.

Scenario 1: person playing alt votes both days. IMO that leaves out Tellan and Alkend due to extreme stupidity. They voted on a long train. An early vote may have figured that the train wouldn't speed lynch. Gait, Emurlahn, Ultama, Korbas.

Scenario 2: different alt each day. Again, that only really leaves room for an early vote. A later vote could easily see that the train was going strongly.

Path-Shaper, on 01 July 2013 - 02:46 PM, said:

It is now Day 3. Timer is frozen with 34 hours remaining.


12 votes to lynch, 12 votes to go to night.

6 votes for Tiamatha (Gait, Emurlahn, Nimander Golit, Ultama, Korbas, Tellan)
1 vote for Korbas (Fener)
1 vote for Fener (Sheltatha Lore)

Players not voted: Alkend, Barghast, Demelain,Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Tiamatha, Trake,

I think that anyone voting much after this would have to know that the train wasn't going to stop. But that leaves me with Nimander as a one day voter. Or Gait, Emurlahn, Ultama, Korbas voting both days.

Liosan, on 02 July 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

Morning, everyone. There is nothing good about mornings.

vote Tiam

we need CF.

Korbas and Gait were around before Liosan voted. So they could have maybe tried to explain a "remove vote"

That leaves Emurlahn and Utama as best candidates for the 'vote early and didn't get back in time to remove' person

This from Emurlahn:

Emurlahn, on 01 July 2013 - 10:13 PM, said:

Zzzzzz this game is going to stagnate this week, isn't it...

I don't think I'm that stupid. I'm sure others would disagree.

Give it a rest, guy.

[Liosan]

Emurlahn, on 03 July 2013 - 05:47 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

It is now Day 3. Timer is frozen with 34 hours remaining.

Players alive: Alkend, Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tellan, Tiamatha, Trake, Ultama

12 votes to lynch, 12 votes to go to night.

13 votes for Tiamatha (Gait, Emurlahn, Nimander Golit, Ultama, Korbas, Tellan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Kedeviss, Trake, Fener, Alkend, Liosan,)


Players not voted: Alkend, Barghast, Demelain,Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Tiamatha, Trake,

Tiamatha has been lynched. She was a Vord Keeper.

You guys lynched with 34 hours left on the clock.

It is now Night 3. I am going to say 2 hours left on the clock, to give me enough time to get everything together to resolve Night, despite what Venge said earlier about Night starting at the lynch.

Yay. IIRC I think Nimander was as anti-Tiamatha as possible, so probably safe to assume he's not Vord...

unless he knew Tiam would respawn too.

I really don't like it when people start defending other players. makes me think they know something I don't.

[Emurlahn]

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

Dawn 3 is now over.

Alkend has been killed. He was a Vord Taker.
Rashan has been killed. She was a Vord Warrior

Woot. Rashan didn't even post though. Still, with 3 vord down in 3 deaths, I feel like maybe the numbers are tilted heavily in their favor. What role is the Taker likely to be?

[Hood's Path]

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

Liosan, on 03 July 2013 - 05:09 PM, said:

If we believe Mockra, this leaves us with... what? Korbas?

NG has been constantly going against the grain of the thread. I'm not sure that's enough to make him sufficiently suspicious to warrant a lynch just yet in my eyes though.

I believe Mockra on this one point. It's still high on my possible list. But I'd rather take time and be more confident of the choice than rush to get the lynch before freeze.


There are two speedier lynches that are safe: Rashan and Tiamatha.

This is not a good suggestion in a game where we suspect recruiting. Especially since it avails us nothing really, as Demelain has pointed out.

[Emurlahn]

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

Start of Day Status Update

Narash
Infested

Shuar
Infested

Antillus
Infestation Counter: 0/11 (10 + 1)

There is 1 member of the First Aleran on this tile.

Elinarch
Infestation Counter: 1/15 (10 + 3 + 2)

There are 2 members of the First Aleran on this tile.
There are 2 members of the Loyalists on this tile.
There is 1 member of the Rebels on this tile.
There is 1 vord on this tile.

Kalare
Infestation Counter: 0/10
Great Fury Counter: 1/20

There are 2 members of the Rebels on this tile.

Ceres
Infestation Counter: 0/18 (15 + 2 + 1)

There is 1 member of the First Aleran on this tile.
There is 1 member of the Loyalists on this tile.

Alera Imperia
Infestation Counter: 0/21 (20 + 1)
Great Fury Counter: 6/30

There are 3 members of the Rebels on this tile.

Phrygia
Infestation Counter: 0/16 (15 + 1)

Riva
Infestation Counter: 0/20

There are 2 members of the Loyalists on this tile.

Aquitaine
Infestation Counter: 0/15

There is 1 member of the Loyalists on this tile.
There is 1 member of the Rebels on this tile.

Calderon
Infestation Counter: 0/26 (25 + 1)
Thana Great Fury Counter: 1/30
Garados Great Fury Counter: 1/100

There is 1 member of the First Aleran on this tile.

So we have visible counts now? lol

[Gait]

I don't buy Mockra's explanation. I still want to lynch him.

[Emurlahn]

Nimander Golit, on 02 July 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

Gait, on 02 July 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

I have a theory. Each tile has an alt and when that tile is infested that alt is spawned. If we kill the alt it just spawns back. Each new tile one new alt.
Can work.

That would make sense. Let's not let the Elinarch get infested just to see if it is true, though, okay?



This faction distribution list in the tiles is very cool. I'm worried that it could help the bad guys, too, but it's worth it just to see that three rebels have been wasting their time in Alera Imperia, presumably this whole time

By my count:

First Alerans - 5
Loyalists - 6
Rebels - 7
Vord - 1


which doesn't add up to the 22 of the players alive list. But I wonder if Narash and Shuar don't show anything because they are infested? It would make sense if Tiam and Rashan respawned there, and maybe there's a 3rd alt in one of those two tiles that we can't see.

But that would mean then that the Vord in Elinarch would not be Rashan or Tiam, so not a generic one... (duh duh duuuuuunn)

That's my guess, too. We cant' see infested tile counts.

[Emurlahn]

Ryllandaras, on 03 July 2013 - 12:03 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:

It is now Day 3. Timer is frozen with 34 hours remaining.

Players alive: Alkend, Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tellan, Tiamatha, Trake, Ultama

12 votes to lynch, 12 votes to go to night.

13 votes for Tiamatha (Gait, Emurlahn, Nimander Golit, Ultama, Korbas, Tellan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Kedeviss, Trake, Fener, Alkend, Liosan,)


Players not voted: Barghast, Demelain,Galain, Hood's Path, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Tiamatha

Tiamatha has been lynched. She was a Vord Keeper.

You guys lynched with 34 hours left on the clock.

It is now Night 3. I am going to say 2 hours left on the clock, to give me enough time to get everything together to resolve Night, despite what Venge said earlier about Night starting at the lynch.

Alright, some speculation:

There were 14 votes cast, but *only* 13 needed for a lynch. Meaning there was just one non-counting vote on the train. I am inclined to believe at this juncture that that one was Alkend's. If the pattern is the same for all multiple alts (which we can't verify, neither Tiam nor Rashan has voted), then that would mean that only one was on Tiam's train. I presume the Queen does have a vote, though, so they could be either on the train or off the train.

Edit: Changed the players not voted bit in the PS post, as it was very wrong.

My guess, too.

[Demelain]

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 05:48 PM, said:

Demelain, on 03 July 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 05:40 PM, said:

Demelain, on 03 July 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

why are we not leaving Tiam and Rashan to NA's and focusing the lynch on other targets?

I thought I covered that about ten posts back when I removed from Mockra.

you said that you believed mockras justification.

and you think that tiam and rashan add to the votes needed. But killing them off and having them respawn isnt going to make one lick of difference.
lynching them to see if they have a different role...wont NA'ing them have the same effect?

Have you ever taken a Turing test? Did you pass???

I do believe Mockra's explanation. Hence the remove vote.

As for Tiam/Rashan, I said that either of them would make a safe choice for a lynch before the timer freezes for the 4 day weekend.

Maybe you can ask your baby sitter to explain that to you?

if your worried about day timing out, why switch from an 8 strong train to start a new pointless one?

[Demelain]

Emurlahn, on 03 July 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

Dawn 3 is now over.

Alkend has been killed. He was a Vord Taker.
Rashan has been killed. She was a Vord Warrior

Woot. Rashan didn't even post though. Still, with 3 vord down in 3 deaths, I feel like maybe the numbers are tilted heavily in their favor. What role is the Taker likely to be?

RAFO

[Emurlahn]

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

Elinarch
Infestation Counter: 1/15 (10 + 3 + 2)

There are 2 members of the First Aleran on this tile.
There are 2 members of the Loyalists on this tile.
There is 1 member of the Rebels on this tile.
There is 1 vord on this tile.

Something struck me about this - the previous infestation increases we've seen have been +5 and +3. This time we only get +1.

+5 was when the Vord were likely entirely unopposed in infesting on the first day. The +3 happened with a FA +1 present. We don't know about the next day as infestation was completed. This time we have +1 only to infestation.

My theory - each FA reduces the possible infestation on that tile by 2. So Day 2 start 1 FA present at Shuar, infestation = +5-2=3. Day 4, Elinarch infestation +5-2-2=1

Another thing to consider... 3 Vord were killed (even though 2 of them are still around, apparently). We don't see counts for several players. I doubt there's just one Vord in the game right now. It's quite possible the infestation depends on the number of Vord on the tile... and a bunch of Vord were all killed, slowing the infestation last night.