[Ultama]

Trake, on 03 July 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 03 July 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:

Off for a bit now... looking over the vote count, we may be waiting for those last few votes. Trake is a high poster who hasn't voted on the train, if he even will. The rest seem like lowish posters.

Nope, not jumping on this one. I don't think there's enough evidence to suggest Mockra is a Vord, his explanation made sense, and if he's not a Vord, then his faction isn't that important to me. There's 8 hours left, enough time, perhaps, to vote off someone else.

What makes you think Blend isn't going to freeze it at 5 EST?

[Liosan]

Trake, on 03 July 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 03 July 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:

Off for a bit now... looking over the vote count, we may be waiting for those last few votes. Trake is a high poster who hasn't voted on the train, if he even will. The rest seem like lowish posters.

Nope, not jumping on this one. I don't think there's enough evidence to suggest Mockra is a Vord, his explanation made sense, and if he's not a Vord, then his faction isn't that important to me. There's 8 hours left, enough time, perhaps, to vote off someone else.

oh hai there, big stripez kat. How about u suggest someone to lynch instead of waiting for a train to follow peoples on?

[Path-Shaper]

I will freeze when Day times out or if we get a lynch before then.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 03 July 2013 - 07:18 PM

[Hood's Path]

I won't be back before timeout.

vote Mockra

[Path-Shaper]

It is now Day 4. 6 hours 47 minutes remaining.

Players alive: Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tellan, Tiamatha Trake, Ultama

12 votes to lynch. 11 votes to go to Night.

11 votes for Mockra ( Demelain, Korbas, Gait, Fener, Liosan, Ryllandaras, Tellan, Nimander Golit, Emurlahn, Ultama, Hood's Path)
1 vote for Ultima (Mockra)
1 vote for Tiamatha (Trake)
1 vote for Trake (Tiamatha)


Players not voted: Barghast, Emurlahn, Galain, Kedeviss, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Sheltatha Lore  

[Ultama]

Path-Shaper, on 03 July 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

It is now Day 4. 6 hours 47 minutes remaining.

Players alive: Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tellan, Tiamatha Trake, Ultama

12 votes to lynch. 11 votes to go to Night.

11 votes for Mockra ( Demelain, Korbas, Gait, Fener, Liosan, Ryllandaras, Tellan, Nimander Golit, Emurlahn, Ultama, Hood's Path)
1 vote for Ultima (Mockra)
1 vote for Tiamatha (Trake)
1 vote for Trake (Tiamatha)


Players not voted: Barghast, Emurlahn, Galain, Kedeviss, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Sheltatha Lore

That's mildly interesting.

[Emurlahn]

Liosan, on 03 July 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 03 July 2013 - 06:17 PM, said:

And caught up. That was quite a read.

A vote for Tiamatha is about as pointless as I can imagine. Ultima is just a little bit too loud today in his VOTE HIM NO WAIT HIM NO HIM NO HIM.

I don't know Mockra, but hey, he's as good as anybody.

Vote Mockra

you know, stuff like this isn't making you look any better

lol, coming from you, Liosan, I take this thinly-veiled threat with a grain of salt.

[Emurlahn]

Trake, on 03 July 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 03 July 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:

Off for a bit now... looking over the vote count, we may be waiting for those last few votes. Trake is a high poster who hasn't voted on the train, if he even will. The rest seem like lowish posters.

Nope, not jumping on this one. I don't think there's enough evidence to suggest Mockra is a Vord, his explanation made sense, and if he's not a Vord, then his faction isn't that important to me. There's 8 hours left, enough time, perhaps, to vote off someone else.

Yeah, if that doesn't scream, "I know Mockra," then I have gone deaf in my old age.

[Liosan]

Emurlahn, on 03 July 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

Liosan, on 03 July 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

Emurlahn, on 03 July 2013 - 06:17 PM, said:

And caught up. That was quite a read.

A vote for Tiamatha is about as pointless as I can imagine. Ultima is just a little bit too loud today in his VOTE HIM NO WAIT HIM NO HIM NO HIM.

I don't know Mockra, but hey, he's as good as anybody.

Vote Mockra

you know, stuff like this isn't making you look any better

lol, coming from you, Liosan, I take this thinly-veiled threat with a grain of salt.

And what do you know about me, exactly? Or are you just following NG's lead here? or maybe you are NG?

[Kedeviss]

Well that was a fun catch up. Nothing like a musical interlude to set the tone...

Anyway, I've been thinking over the respawning Vord issue and have a few thoughts. First, it is possible that each alt has a number of lives (say three) corresponding to a different generic role like keeper, warrior, etc. and the alt will continue to spawn until it has been completely eliminated. I only say that because I assume Tiam and Rashan were spawned in the same way, so I had expected similar CFs. Worth checking, especially since we need to keep those two in check anyway.

Which brings me to my second thought, if they are respawning in the infested territory they initially spawned from then we don't need to kill them daily because it may take more than one dusk phase for them to be useful. This, obviously assumes the opposite of above, that they do not have a finite number of lives. But we need to figure out how to control them, aside from stopping further infestations.


Anyway, I'm willing to hammer on Mockra. Not sure if I should wait or just get it over with though.

[Ultama]

Kedeviss, on 03 July 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

Anyway, I'm willing to hammer on Mockra. Not sure if I should wait or just get it over with though.

Don't wait. It is possible for 1 or 2 of those names to not count.

[Ultama]

Path-Shaper, on 03 July 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

It is now Day 4. 6 hours 47 minutes remaining.

Players alive: Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tellan, Tiamatha Trake, Ultama

12 votes to lynch. 11 votes to go to Night.

11 votes for Mockra ( Demelain, Korbas, Gait, Fener, Liosan, Ryllandaras, Tellan, Nimander Golit, Emurlahn, Ultama, Hood's Path)
1 vote for Ultima (Mockra)
1 vote for Tiamatha (Trake)
1 vote for Trake (Tiamatha)


Players not voted: Barghast, Emurlahn, Galain, Kedeviss, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Sheltatha Lore

Day 1: 12 votes for Fener (Liosan, Korbas, Okaros, Alkend, Trake, Gait, Hood's Path, Pran Chole, Emurlahn, Ultama, Demelain, Tellan)

Day 3: 13 votes for Tiamatha (Gait, Emurlahn, Nimander Golit, Ultama, Korbas, Tellan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Kedeviss, Trake, Fener, Alkend, Liosan,) (Mockra also voted before lynch resolution. That vote was not necessary apparently. Meaning only one name on this list is an alt.)

Day 4 so far: 11 votes for Mockra ( Demelain, Korbas, Gait, Fener, Liosan, Ryllandaras, Tellan, Nimander Golit, Emurlahn, Ultama, Hood's Path)


Green: Voted both day 1 and day 3. Liosan's vote was the hammer on Day 3. Therefore his counts. Well, it did a day ago.

Blue: Voted both day 1 and day 3.

Red: Voted day 3 but not day 1.

Grey: Voted day 1 but not day 3.



Conclusions:

If one of the blue names does not count, then the remaining blues do count. (day 3)
However, it is possible for all the current blues to count.


If one of the reds does not count then all of the remaining reds do count. (day 3)
However it is possible for all the reds to count.


If one of the reds does not count then all of the current blues do count. (day 3)
However, all of the current blues counting does not say anything about the reds.


The two current greys may both count, neither count, or only one count.

[Liosan]

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 03 July 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

It is now Day 4. 6 hours 47 minutes remaining.

Players alive: Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tellan, Tiamatha Trake, Ultama

12 votes to lynch. 11 votes to go to Night.

11 votes for Mockra ( Demelain, Korbas, Gait, Fener, Liosan, Ryllandaras, Tellan, Nimander Golit, Emurlahn, Ultama, Hood's Path)
1 vote for Ultima (Mockra)
1 vote for Tiamatha (Trake)
1 vote for Trake (Tiamatha)


Players not voted: Barghast, Emurlahn, Galain, Kedeviss, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Sheltatha Lore

Day 1: 12 votes for Fener (Liosan, Korbas, Okaros, Alkend, Trake, Gait, Hood's Path, Pran Chole, Emurlahn, Ultama, Demelain, Tellan)

Day 3: 13 votes for Tiamatha (Gait, Emurlahn, Nimander Golit, Ultama, Korbas, Tellan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Kedeviss, Trake, Fener, Alkend, Liosan,) (Mockra also voted before lynch resolution. That vote was not necessary apparently. Meaning only one name on this list is an alt.)

Day 4 so far: 11 votes for Mockra ( Demelain, Korbas, Gait, Fener, Liosan, Ryllandaras, Tellan, Nimander Golit, Emurlahn, Ultama, Hood's Path)


Green: Voted both day 1 and day 3. Liosan's vote was the hammer on Day 3. Therefore his counts. Well, it did a day ago.

Blue: Voted both day 1 and day 3.

Red: Voted day 3 but not day 1.

Grey: Voted day 1 but not day 3.



Conclusions:

If one of the blue names does not count, then the remaining blues do count. (day 3)
However, it is possible for all the current blues to count.


If one of the reds does not count then all of the remaining reds do count. (day 3)
However it is possible for all the reds to count.


If one of the reds does not count then all of the current blues do count. (day 3)
However, all of the current blues counting does not say anything about the reds.


The two current greys may both count, neither count, or only one count.

too much logic games,

I'll try to absorb this once I get home from work.

[Ultama]

Liosan, on 03 July 2013 - 09:18 PM, said:

too much logic games,

I'll try to absorb this once I get home from work.

For you none of that particularly matters at the moment. Unless Kedeviss doesn't vote. Which would itself have some implications.

[Kedeviss]

Yeah, right, voting now helps with alt voting info. Would have voted 5 min ago but the ipad died on me and had to boot the comp up.
Vote Mockra

[Emurlahn]

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 03 July 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

It is now Day 4. 6 hours 47 minutes remaining.

Players alive: Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tellan, Tiamatha Trake, Ultama

12 votes to lynch. 11 votes to go to Night.

11 votes for Mockra ( Demelain, Korbas, Gait, Fener, Liosan, Ryllandaras, Tellan, Nimander Golit, Emurlahn, Ultama, Hood's Path)
1 vote for Ultima (Mockra)
1 vote for Tiamatha (Trake)
1 vote for Trake (Tiamatha)


Players not voted: Barghast, Emurlahn, Galain, Kedeviss, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Sheltatha Lore

Day 1: 12 votes for Fener (Liosan, Korbas, Okaros, Alkend, Trake, Gait, Hood's Path, Pran Chole, Emurlahn, Ultama, Demelain, Tellan)

Day 3: 13 votes for Tiamatha (Gait, Emurlahn, Nimander Golit, Ultama, Korbas, Tellan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Kedeviss, Trake, Fener, Alkend, Liosan,) (Mockra also voted before lynch resolution. That vote was not necessary apparently. Meaning only one name on this list is an alt.)

Day 4 so far: 11 votes for Mockra ( Demelain, Korbas, Gait, Fener, Liosan, Ryllandaras, Tellan, Nimander Golit, Emurlahn, Ultama, Hood's Path)


Green: Voted both day 1 and day 3. Liosan's vote was the hammer on Day 3. Therefore his counts. Well, it did a day ago.

Blue: Voted both day 1 and day 3.

Red: Voted day 3 but not day 1.

Grey: Voted day 1 but not day 3.



Conclusions:

If one of the blue names does not count, then the remaining blues do count. (day 3)
However, it is possible for all the current blues to count.


If one of the reds does not count then all of the remaining reds do count. (day 3)
However it is possible for all the reds to count.


If one of the reds does not count then all of the current blues do count. (day 3)
However, all of the current blues counting does not say anything about the reds.


The two current greys may both count, neither count, or only one count.

If anything, the most interesting data is the list of people who just aren't voting at all....

[Ultama]

And I believe I owe Demelain a minor apology. I still think that Mockra could be a mistake to lynch.

But this has become an excellent opportunity to narrow down the field for those two initial extra names.

[Ultama]

Kedeviss, on 03 July 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

Yeah, right, voting now helps with alt voting info. Would have voted 5 min ago but the ipad died on me and had to boot the comp up.
Vote Mockra

Sweet. A third grey name.

It is possible for that to be the hammer. But I really, really doubt it.

[Emurlahn]

Path-Shaper, on 03 July 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:

It is now Day 4. 6 hours 47 minutes remaining.

Players alive: Barghast, Demelain, Emurlahn, Fener, Gait, Galain, Hood's Path, Kedeviss, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Nimander Golit, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha Lore, Tellan, Tiamatha Trake, Ultama

12 votes to lynch. 11 votes to go to Night.

11 votes for Mockra ( Demelain, Korbas, Gait, Fener, Liosan, Ryllandaras, Tellan, Nimander Golit, Emurlahn, Ultama, Hood's Path)
1 vote for Ultima (Mockra)
1 vote for Tiamatha (Trake)
1 vote for Trake (Tiamatha)


Players not voted: Barghast, Emurlahn, Galain, Kedeviss, Monok Ochem, Okaros, Pran Chole, Rashan, Sheltatha Lore

Ultima, If your theory is correct about extra alts just inflating the lynch requirements count, this game is going to quickly become unmanageable, especially if some votes don't count.

[Kedeviss]

Ultama said:

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Kedeviss said:

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Yeah, right, voting now helps with alt voting info. Would have voted 5 min ago but the ipad died on me and had to boot the comp up.
Vote Mockra

Sweet. A third grey name.

It is possible for that to be the hammer. But I really, really doubt it.

Should be a red by your rules. Voted day 3 and now 4. Hopefully the lynch counts, but entirely possible that we have some non votes in there,