[Korbas]

Lots to get through and read. My initial thoughts are that Alkend not respawning and being dead dead mean that his vote would count. I can see Tiam and Rashan's vote being powerless but not a main player.

[Korbas]

On First train but not second; Okaros, HP, Pran Chole and Demelain

On second but not on first; Nimander, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha and Kedeviss

On both; Liosan, Korbas, Alkend, Trake, Gait, Emurlahn, Ultama and Tellan.

What initially stands out to me is that Okaros, HP, Pran Chole and Kedeviss who are all on one train but not the other have around 15 posts each. Alkend also had around the same number 17 posts. We do not know how many votes more were needed on the first train. For all we know we could have needed an extra 2 or 3 votes.

[Korbas]

This is a great catch and it certainly does look like a slip by Mockra.

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 07:59 AM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 03 July 2013 - 06:20 AM, said:

I remember thinking Alkend and Mockra were the same person, and we now know Alkend was Vord, and Mockra tried to jump on the last lynch train after it was too late. It may be nothing, but I'd look at Mockra more closely.

Don't have time to do a comparison/contrast look at Mockra. But I did do a search to look at his posts. And found something that could very well be a blunder on Mockra's part:

Mockra, on 02 July 2013 - 01:35 AM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 29 June 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

I'm definitely (still) in favour of lynching Tiam for the knowledge/certainty.
I would also like to point out, however, that Fener yesterday was the only one I recall who claimed the mods confirmed his vote for the choice of furies to enhance. That, in addition to his cozy back-and-forth with Tiam has me suspicious that he is the master behind these new alts. ie if Tiam turns up Vord, I suspect Fener might be a queen gaining control of generic new vord alts and we should look that way next. I still want to vote Tiam today to verify that she is Vord, though, and see what other info the CF brings us.


IF I am right though, and the infested tiles can each generate new generic Vord, our best defense at the moment is to keep them bottled on the left by reinforcing Elinarch. I don't know how the blue line works with moving and attacking across in relation to the Vord, but it's at least worth a shot to keep Elinarch blocked as much as possible until we have any reason to defend somewhere else. Book-wise, the blue line there is an ocean so it'd make a lot of sense if attacks across it are not possible, which helps defend it even more.
Then again, in the books the Vord randomly showed up in Kalare somehow... so that might not be a permanent solution.

Wasn't Fener supposed to slow/cut down the infestation at Shuar? What happened with that then?
And what makes you think the Vord can regenerate? Have I missed something to do with that? I wouldn't want to not lynch Tiam just because of the suspicion that she might come back.

Nimander's point in red above is about an infested tile spawning "a new generic Vord"

Compare that to the red highlight from Mockra's reply to NG. Nimander didn't say anything about REgenerating. And Mockra's highlighted blue comment shows he didn't type regenerate accidentally. I don't think that until this comment anybody had said anything about the possibility that Tiamatha could survive dying.

Some pressure is definitely called for.

Remove Vote
Vote Mockra


Edit: grammar

[Fener]

Monok Ochem, on 03 July 2013 - 06:20 AM, said:

Monok Ochem, on 28 June 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Alkend, on 26 June 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:

Korbas, on 26 June 2013 - 08:29 AM, said:

Alkend, on 26 June 2013 - 07:43 AM, said:

Lots and lots of talk about the Vord. I guess that means we're going on a bug hunt (are they bugs? That's what I'm imagining in my head).

Any reason we wouldn't go after the Vord? Their goal is to eliminate us all, everyone has a Vord elimination VC. Makes sense no?

When you put it like that, yeah. But for most the VC is to eliminate the Vord Queen and fuck (not literally) the rest of the Vord. One individual between twenty-something players might take a while to track down. I'm certainly not expecting the factions to remain the bestest of friends if it does end up a long chase.
It might be tough to not have this game go the way such books always go (and I bet in the Alera series too). Loads of squabbling and fighting between various armies/petty nations etc, whilst a bigger threat grows ever stronger in the background.
Very fun-looking setup this!

Mockra, on 25 June 2013 - 12:25 AM, said:

Hi all! Looks to be a fun/confusing one this!

Is this expression common elsewhere? It's not here, so if so, this is nothing, plus I don't have my notes, and can't remember the other really petty things I found. I'm not advocating their lynch really, just tossing anything at all I have put there.

I remember thinking Alkend and Mockra were the same person, and we now know Alkend was Vord, and Mockra tried to jump on the last lynch train after it was too late. It may be nothing, but I'd look at Mockra more closely.

I hate to shoot a nice theory in the foot, but Mockra has posted at times when Alkend has likely been asleep and vice versa. Not to say Mockra isn't suspicious, but I think they're not the same person.

[Fener]

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

I hate to shoot a nice theory in the foot, but Mockra has posted at times when Alkend has likely been asleep and vice versa. Not to say Mockra isn't suspicious, but I think they're not the same person.

Alkends posts fit within the bound of Demelain, Fener and Korbas.

There are a few other potentials, Gait, Liosan, Monok, Sheltatha and heh, Tiam have all posted significantly within the time frames although not providing a complete overlap.

[Fener]

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

Elinarch
Infestation Counter: 1/15 (10 + 3 + 2)

There are 2 members of the First Aleran on this tile.
There are 2 members of the Loyalists on this tile.
There is 1 member of the Rebels on this tile.
There is 1 vord on this tile.

Something struck me about this - the previous infestation increases we've seen have been +5 and +3. This time we only get +1.

+5 was when the Vord were likely entirely unopposed in infesting on the first day. The +3 happened with a FA +1 present. We don't know about the next day as infestation was completed. This time we have +1 only to infestation.

My theory - each FA reduces the possible infestation on that tile by 2. So Day 2 start 1 FA present at Shuar, infestation = +5-2=3. Day 4, Elinarch infestation +5-2-2=1

[Korbas]

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

I hate to shoot a nice theory in the foot, but Mockra has posted at times when Alkend has likely been asleep and vice versa. Not to say Mockra isn't suspicious, but I think they're not the same person.

Alkends posts fit within the bound of Demelain, Fener and Korbas.

There are a few other potentials, Gait, Liosan, Monok, Sheltatha and heh, Tiam have all posted significantly within the time frames although not providing a complete overlap.

Why do you think Alkend was more than one alt?

[Korbas]

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:36 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 02 July 2013 - 07:46 PM, said:

Elinarch
Infestation Counter: 1/15 (10 + 3 + 2)

There are 2 members of the First Aleran on this tile.
There are 2 members of the Loyalists on this tile.
There is 1 member of the Rebels on this tile.
There is 1 vord on this tile.

Something struck me about this - the previous infestation increases we've seen have been +5 and +3. This time we only get +1.

+5 was when the Vord were likely entirely unopposed in infesting on the first day. The +3 happened with a FA +1 present. We don't know about the next day as infestation was completed. This time we have +1 only to infestation.

My theory - each FA reduces the possible infestation on that tile by 2. So Day 2 start 1 FA present at Shuar, infestation = +5-2=3. Day 4, Elinarch infestation +5-2-2=1

This is a good theory, we could test it out by adding more FA to the covered tiles?

[Fener]

Korbas, on 03 July 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

I hate to shoot a nice theory in the foot, but Mockra has posted at times when Alkend has likely been asleep and vice versa. Not to say Mockra isn't suspicious, but I think they're not the same person.

Alkends posts fit within the bound of Demelain, Fener and Korbas.

There are a few other potentials, Gait, Liosan, Monok, Sheltatha and heh, Tiam have all posted significantly within the time frames although not providing a complete overlap.

Why do you think Alkend was more than one alt?

Because he was Vord. As I have already speculated it may not be Vord with multiple alts but it does fit better with the species. Also, I've not yet seen a post from Alkend in SH...

[Fener]

Korbas, on 03 July 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

This is a good theory, we could test it out by adding more FA to the covered tiles?

Assuming, of course, that the Queen doesn't move to a different tile.

[Korbas]

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:44 AM, said:

Korbas, on 03 July 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

This is a good theory, we could test it out by adding more FA to the covered tiles?

Assuming, of course, that the Queen doesn't move to a different tile.

You think the Queen is the only one who can infest?

[Fener]

Korbas, on 03 July 2013 - 11:44 AM, said:

You think the Queen is the only one who can infest?

Why don't you tell us what you think Mr Top Of My Suspicious List.

[Korbas]

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:45 AM, said:

Korbas, on 03 July 2013 - 11:44 AM, said:

You think the Queen is the only one who can infest?

Why don't you tell us what you think Mr Top Of My Suspicious List.

Suspicious in what way? If you are who I think you are what action did you take last night? That would clear things up for me.

[Fener]

Korbas, on 03 July 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:45 AM, said:

Korbas, on 03 July 2013 - 11:44 AM, said:

You think the Queen is the only one who can infest?

Why don't you tell us what you think Mr Top Of My Suspicious List.

Suspicious in what way? If you are who I think you are what action did you take last night? That would clear things up for me.

Lets see. You claim I am Tavi, your (claimed) faction leader. You tell people what your (claimed) faction leader is supposedly doing. You reveal your faction in a faction game with little pressure on you. You believe Tiam is nothing to do with the Vord and haven't cleared up Ultama asking you thoughts on that in light of the CF. Yet you jumped on the Tiam lynch. Your claimed reducing Great Furies by 3 every 3rd dawn is not backed up. You claim you give +1 fortification to each FA.

You claim I'm deliberately playing stupid, and you're not. So it must be intentional.

Vote Korbas

[Fener]

Yes okay, I've had a bit of a boner for Korbas most of this game. Take a look through his posts though.

[Korbas]

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

Korbas, on 03 July 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:45 AM, said:

Korbas, on 03 July 2013 - 11:44 AM, said:

You think the Queen is the only one who can infest?

Why don't you tell us what you think Mr Top Of My Suspicious List.

Suspicious in what way? If you are who I think you are what action did you take last night? That would clear things up for me.

Lets see. You claim I am Tavi, your (claimed) faction leader. You tell people what your (claimed) faction leader is supposedly doing. You reveal your faction in a faction game with little pressure on you. You believe Tiam is nothing to do with the Vord and haven't cleared up Ultama asking you thoughts on that in light of the CF. Yet you jumped on the Tiam lynch. Your claimed reducing Great Furies by 3 every 3rd dawn is not backed up. You claim you give +1 fortification to each FA.

You claim I'm deliberately playing stupid, and you're not. So it must be intentional.

Vote Korbas

What happened in Calderon to the Great Fury counter then? Yesterday they were on +3 and would have increased no? So why are they now only at 1? Fuck you Fener bitch!

[Fener]

My goodness, there is some life in you yet.

Now tell us all why you want me to tell you my NA and why I should be concerned with clearing things up for you. There's so much about me on thread already, you really need more?

[Korbas]

Fener don't you realise the reason most people are not voting for you because that idea stuck? Why would anyone want to vote off Octavian? They wouldn't. I think he could be one of three alts and one of them is you, the reason I pointed it out in the first place is so that you don't get your ass lynched again. Day one you knew about keepers and that almost got you lynched. You acquired 12 votes which isn't smart play for a supposed leader to do. Finally no where in my role does it say that Octavian is my leader. It says stuff about sharing things with him and having abilities because of him. Your pushing me away from thinking you could be him. There are things you are saying and doing that are raising my hackles.

[Liosan]

morning

vote Korbas

Untill he properly explains what that tango bravo shit post was all about

[Fener]

Korbas, on 03 July 2013 - 12:45 PM, said:

Fener don't you realise the reason most people are not voting for you because that idea stuck? Why would anyone want to vote off Octavian? They wouldn't. I think he could be one of three alts and one of them is you, the reason I pointed it out in the first place is so that you don't get your ass lynched again. Day one you knew about keepers and that almost got you lynched. You acquired 12 votes which isn't smart play for a supposed leader to do. Finally no where in my role does it say that Octavian is my leader. It says stuff about sharing things with him and having abilities because of him. Your pushing me away from thinking you could be him. There are things you are saying and doing that are raising my hackles.

So I'm a supposed leader but not Tavi? Christ, make up your mind. What are you basing the one of three on? Things like doubting you, Tango Delta Bravo?