[Tellan]

Well, the votes are spread pretty thinly around. I really don't trust Tiam and that whole deal, and if she affects everyone beneficially (i.e., whatever fury and active/passive we vote on applies to all), is it really a big loss if we're wrong? Other than lost time. And, yes, I'm sure somebody could use a boost on something somewhere, I know I would like some buffer, but you may not even get what you vote for either.

Plus, I just don't even think it's true - in past games, dont mods normally announce weird roles entering the fray on later days or something? Or if there has to be something to vote on? Thinking back to the 100 game, they announced the whole Survivor island thing, which was an overnight voting process. As someone else already pointed out, this whole deal sounds like a mechanic, not something that needs an alt.

Basically agreeing with NG and Shelly above me here, and I'd rather not risk waiting to see, especially if we may not get anything conclusive. Also, what are our other possibilities? There's been a bit of discussion on others, but Tiam has gone and drawn a lot of attention to herself. Blech.

I'll probably end up voting Tiam when I get up tomorrow, unless she answers everyone's questions convincingly, or someone else screams "KILL MEEEE."

[Emurlahn]

As it is, I don't see any reason to remove my vote. I will be back an hour or three before the timer is up. I'd prefer not to go another day with a lynch at the wire that maybe is-maybe isn't a LP or votes that don't count or needing extra votes...

[Demelain]

Are we going to at least decide as a group which buffer to vote for?

[Korbas]

The reason I am voting Nimander is his obsession with Tiam. If Tiam is right and can boost abilities then this may help us against the Vord Queen. If Tiam is wrong and he is just a vord spawn then he is not a big fish. I think Nimander is worried because he has already stated he was attacked last night. A leader asking for a heal? He is worried that if attacks are boosted then his heal could be penetrated.


I think Fener is Octavian and that is why the interaction with Tiam sounds true. I don't think the first Aleran's are our enemy. I think we should do our best to get them on our side because they are the most neutral faction. People may try to sugar coat easy lynches but I think the tougher lynches will provide the most fruit. I would like to see who defends Nimander. At the moment he is my top suspect for Vord Queen.

[Fener]

Demelain, on 28 June 2013 - 07:10 AM, said:

Are we going to at least decide as a group which buffer to vote for?

We would need it to be something multiple people can verify independently. Going down the OP:

Blend, on 13 June 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:

Wind Furies

Passive Action: You cannot be detected by Earth Furies as you can fly. No way to detect
Active Action: You can use your Wind Furies to effectively slow time around you, allowing you to move quickly when fighting an enemy. If you are targeted by an attack while this ability is activated, the attack will cause X less damage. Your attack will do the same amount of damage. Detectable only by someone who is attacked and had an active Wind Fury to defend

Fire Furies

Passive Action: If you are targeted by Water Furies, you will also raise a steam cloud around you at the end of the current dawn phase, making the next attack directed your way do 0 damage. If you are not targeted by an attack, the steam cloud will dissipate at the end of the following dawn phase. Doesn't look like it can be buffed.
Active Action: You may target another player. That player will take attack power + X damage, no matter which tile they are on. Buff detectable to the attacker, the recipeint doesn't know if it was buffed or not.

Metal Furies

Passive Action: You may take up to X damage more than your total HP without dying. If you are at negative HP, you MUST be healed to 0 or more HP by the end of the next dawn phase in order to stay alive. If you are at exactly 0 HP, you will not die unless you are reduced to less than 0 HP. If you take enough damage to leave you at less than -X damage, you will die. Buff affects X but will there be any notification of this?
Active Action: You may attack a target player. If that character is on the same tile as you, he or she will take attack damage + X that cannot be reduced by other effects. If that character is on a different tile, they will take 0 damage. As Fire Active with the limit of being on the same tile as the target

Water Furies

Passive Action: If you are targeted by a fire fury, you will nullify the damage it is meant to inflict. You will also raise a steam cloud around you during the dawn phase, making the next attack directed your way do 0 damage. If you are not targeted by an attack, the steam cloud will dissipate during the following dawn phase. As Fire Passive
Active Action: Your attack is changed into a heal. You may heal any player, including yourself. If your target is another player he or she is healed for attack power + X damage if he or she is on the same tile as you. If your target is yourself, you will be healed for half that amount. As Fire Active but can target self

Earth Furies

Passive Action: During the dawn phase, you will be told how many players are on your current tile, including yourself. Can't be buffed?
Active Action: Raise fortifications on the tile you are currently standing on, adding X extra points to the infestation counter total (i.e. it will require the Vord to attain X additional infestation points to infest the tile). Buffable. We can also all see if there is a sudden increase in fortifications

Wood Furies

Passive Action: Changes your attack into a long ranged attack. If your target is within 2 tiles of your current location, your attack will hit them. This effect does not stack with active fury actions (i.e. healing from water furies will not be long range) Nothing here looks to be buffable - range is explicitly stated.
Active Action: Your attack is now a guard ability. If your target is within 2 tiles of your current location, you will guard them during the current Dawn phase. As Passive above

Abilities:

This list will contain any additional abilities your character has. These abilities work like abilities in any other game. You may either use Attack, or one of your abilities, but not both, during the Dawn Phase, unless told otherwise. Buffs here will be highly subjective due to what, if any, each alt can do. They may be able to verify the buff of any of the unclear ones above but then we're taking the word of a small number, each of whom could be on the faction responsible for Tiam

Much as it doesn't buff my stuff, Earth Active is the only way we could all be sure.

[Tiamatha]

Hello again!

I presume you have more questions for me. In fact, I know that you do, seeing as I have read the thread Let us see how/if I can help.

[Fener]

Tellan, on 28 June 2013 - 05:12 AM, said:

Well, the votes are spread pretty thinly around. I really don't trust Tiam and that whole deal, and if she affects everyone beneficially (i.e., whatever fury and active/passive we vote on applies to all), is it really a big loss if we're wrong? Other than lost time. And, yes, I'm sure somebody could use a boost on something somewhere, I know I would like some buffer, but you may not even get what you vote for either.

Plus, I just don't even think it's true - in past games, dont mods normally announce weird roles entering the fray on later days or something? Or if there has to be something to vote on? Thinking back to the 100 game, they announced the whole Survivor island thing, which was an overnight voting process. As someone else already pointed out, this whole deal sounds like a mechanic, not something that needs an alt.

Basically agreeing with NG and Shelly above me here, and I'd rather not risk waiting to see, especially if we may not get anything conclusive. Also, what are our other possibilities? There's been a bit of discussion on others, but Tiam has gone and drawn a lot of attention to herself. Blech.

I'll probably end up voting Tiam when I get up tomorrow, unless she answers everyone's questions convincingly, or someone else screams "KILL MEEEE."

Tiam had attention drawn when she appeared in the list at the start of Day 2. Can anyone come up with a better story not to get immediately lynched?

Has anyone had a 'Noted' from PS? Or, alternativly, a comment from them along the lines of 'no comment'?

[Fener]

Tiamatha, on 28 June 2013 - 10:03 AM, said:

Hello again!

I presume you have more questions for me. In fact, I know that you do, seeing as I have read the thread /> Let us see how/if I can help.

4min after my post? Were you waiting for me to come on sweetie?

[Fener]

Nimander Golit, on 27 June 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

Okay, and I why do you think all of this was encapsulated into a character who is so "neutral" that they have no faction, no VCs that are counter to ours, and benefit everyone 'equally' - ie they have nothing to do all game - rather than just turned into a game-wide mechanic or another player's ability?

Tiam may well be an action of another player - an Ability called "Commune with Alera" that spawned her.

Alternatively, it could be Vord still.

[Korbas]

There are only 4 First Aleran Members. I am 90% sure of this. Each +1 fortification is because of one of those members. I am unsure about the +2's.

I hope this helps with faction numbers.

[Tiamatha]

Fener, on 28 June 2013 - 10:05 AM, said:

Tiamatha, on 28 June 2013 - 10:03 AM, said:

Hello again!

I presume you have more questions for me. In fact, I know that you do, seeing as I have read the thread /> Let us see how/if I can help.

4min after my post? Were you waiting for me to come on sweetie?

Pure coincidence, I assure you. I actually meant to be around a couple of hours earlier than this, but, alas, other things and all that.

[Fener]

Trake, on 27 June 2013 - 11:38 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 27 June 2013 - 11:36 PM, said:

I've done a skimming readup, and I think I have a basic grasp of what's going on. My instincts scream to lynch Fener, call BS on Tiam.

But most of all, for the first time in one of these games based on books that I haven't read, I feel that the knowledge I'm missing from not having read them is really going to hurt my chances of understanding what's actually happening.

I haven't read them either. I've just been absorbing Wiki pages. I think I'm doing alright.

The wiki I linked to before sucks by the way, it was the easiest one to link to however.

[Tiamatha]

Fener, on 28 June 2013 - 12:25 AM, said:

Okay, in very very briefly. Some questions for Tiam:

Are these votes iron man?

Does the strength of your buff vary depending on the aspect? - water gets +2, earth +3 for instance

When are the results of this vote announced?

Which tile did Gaius create you on?

Sorry Tiam but less polite as I'm about to get very busy.

Back in a long time.

As these were, as far as I'm aware, the only questions addressed directly to me rather than talking about me (humph!), I shall answer them first and foremost, to the best of my ability.

1) I would presume so if I were you, considering iron man is present as a rule for a few other things...

2) Well now. Let me ask you a question for a change? Why do you presume buffs will all be so...mundane? Don't get me wrong, some/most may well be just like that, but a few others are perhaps more creative.

3) As this question has been a bone of some contention, I shall address it in its own post.

4) Hah! You are a nosy pig, aren't you? But you indirectly raise a different question. Am I here because of me, independently or because of other(s). The rumours I hear a-swirling around is that there's no reason for me to exist. How terrible to say! But another thing important enough to address in its own post - however, there's only so much I can say.

[Tiamatha]

So, I thought I made this clear enough in my CAPITAL LETTERS post, but apparently not.

Those who have access to the type of fury which has been chosen, will be told by Path-Shaper at the beginning of Day 3, who'll inform them about what their fury can now do. I will also of course know which fury has been chosen. Those people who have had a fury chosen can if they wish share with the thread that it has happened, without (unless they wish to) revealing exactly which one was chosen, or how it is different.

[Demelain]

Korbas, on 28 June 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:

There are only 4 First Aleran Members. I am 90% sure of this. Each +1 fortification is because of one of those members. I am unsure about the +2's.

I hope this helps with faction numbers.

My guess is the plus 2 is either multiple first alereans or added earth fury fortifications

[Tiamatha]

So. Why am I here Day 2? Why not Day 1? Why not Day 3? Why here, why now, why when what which who where how why!!!

Suffice to say, I am here because of the deeds of other(s). And I may be here tomorrow. Or I may not be. Even if I am around tomorrow, I will not always be around. But then I might reappear, days down the line.

Basically, my offers are most time-limited


Now, as for Fener's tile question, I shall not answer that, no. There are some things even I am not going to give away, though there's nothing stopping any of you from making guesses. I'll say this much. I am on a tile. I have HP. I can be lynched. I can be killed. I can be recruited. And in the case of the latter, I will not remain quite so neutral.

There are consequences to everything, as I feel I have tried to tell you. Treat me kindly, and I will beatifically smile. Treat me badly, and most of you will come to regret it. Do I need to get more specific, or is that doom-laden vague sentence enough?

[Fener]

Demelain, on 28 June 2013 - 10:32 AM, said:

Korbas, on 28 June 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:

There are only 4 First Aleran Members. I am 90% sure of this. Each +1 fortification is because of one of those members. I am unsure about the +2's.

I hope this helps with faction numbers.

My guess is the plus 2 is either multiple first alereans or added earth fury fortifications

Fortifications seems more likely than the First being a large faction.

[Korbas]

Demelain, on 28 June 2013 - 10:32 AM, said:

Korbas, on 28 June 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:

There are only 4 First Aleran Members. I am 90% sure of this. Each +1 fortification is because of one of those members. I am unsure about the +2's.

I hope this helps with faction numbers.

My guess is the plus 2 is either multiple first alereans or added earth fury fortifications

I don't think it is multiple first aleran's because that would be the +1 +1 ones...

[Korbas]

You are on Celes is my guess.

[Demelain]

If Tiam can be recruited and then loses her neutrality we may need to lynch her even if she's telling the truth.