[Okaros]

Sorry to leave y'all with the schizophrenic twins, but I really need to get to bed.

Adios, bromigos.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Jesus pants people. I was almost finished reading up 4 hours ago when I had to leave, and you added three more damn pages in that time.

I see we got a good lynch in Mockra, and the speculation up to that is an interesting read. I still like your style Tiam, even though you're a filthy bug.

Anyways, I don't have time to read this extra 3 pages, so I'll catch up later. I assume we are frozen, since we got the lynch so I won't miss anything important.

[Demelain]

Another Vord down! Excellent.

Can I claim a few ego points considering I helped stop ultima derailing the train?

But more seriously do we think that ultima left the train because he wanted to help mockra?

That trake is Vord and flat out didn't want to vote for his team mate? And only did when he was vote 13 on our first 12 only lynch?

Or my personal favorite that okoras has only just started pipping up since mockra died because he now has more time to concentrate on his other alt?

Also tiams and rashans banter is making me think there's some kind of doomsday mechanic where the Vord, once nearly defeated get a huge boost, but I'm not sure what

[Sheltatha Lore]

Ok, I'm caught up and see that I'm a potential suspect of funky alt voting. The only thing I can really say in my defense is that I was early and often on Tiam's train.

As for other speculation, normally I'd poo-poo the idea that we are getting false CFs, but given that there appears to be differences in what PS is reporting for tiles and what people like Ultama have claimed their NA's revealed about their location, I raise it as being a higher possibility.

I think Trake and Korbas are weirdos (Korbas being the bigger one)... that posting style of Korbas could almost be related to the tongue in cheek of Tiam in a way, but I can't put my finger on it. Trake I don't really get a bad vibe from, but that doesn't mean squat.

Barghast I'm cool with ignoring. Okaros suddenly becoming active rings all kinds of alarm bells.

[Okaros]

Sheltatha Lore, on 04 July 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

Ok, I'm caught up and see that I'm a potential suspect of funky alt voting. The only thing I can really say in my defense is that I was early and often on Tiam's train.

As for other speculation, normally I'd poo-poo the idea that we are getting false CFs, but given that there appears to be differences in what PS is reporting for tiles and what people like Ultama have claimed their NA's revealed about their location, I raise it as being a higher possibility.

I think Trake and Korbas are weirdos (Korbas being the bigger one)... that posting style of Korbas could almost be related to the tongue in cheek of Tiam in a way, but I can't put my finger on it. Trake I don't really get a bad vibe from, but that doesn't mean squat.

Barghast I'm cool with ignoring. Okaros suddenly becoming active rings all kinds of alarm bells.

I started a new job on monday working as a maintenance guy at an ironworks company, which made it difficult to play. We get off today and tomorrow so last night I figured I'd try to catch up, not expecting there to be so much. I had expected maybe a page or two because of the holiday week. But I do want to try to contribute.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Congrats on a new job then. You realize we get payed to play mafia though, right?
Send me your bank account details, a copy of your picture ID, and I'll make sure you start getting those monthly checks.

[Nimander Golit]

Sheltatha Lore, on 04 July 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

As for other speculation, normally I'd poo-poo the idea that we are getting false CFs, but given that there appears to be differences in what PS is reporting for tiles and what people like Ultama have claimed their NA's revealed about their location, I raise it as being a higher possibility.

I'm not convinced there is an inconsistency here. As someone already pointed out, the earthcrafter ability to detect who is on their tile does not detect windcrafters. Was there anything raised about this that the earth-wind possibility couldn't explain?

[Ultama]

Nimander Golit said:

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Sheltatha Lore said:

1372935423[/url]' post='1068415']
As for other speculation, normally I'd poo-poo the idea that we are getting false CFs, but given that there appears to be differences in what PS is reporting for tiles and what people like Ultama have claimed their NA's revealed about their location, I raise it as being a higher possibility.

I'm not convinced there is an inconsistency here. As someone already pointed out, the earthcrafter ability to detect who is on their tile does not detect windcrafters. Was there anything raised about this that the earth-wind possibility couldn't explain?

Nope.
It explained the situation to my satisfaction. Though it did ruin a really nice hypothesis.

[Ultama]

Sheltatha Lore said:

1372935423[/url]' post='1068415']
that posting style of Korbas could almost be related to the tongue in cheek of Tiam in a way,

I have blinders on a bit when it comes to Korbas. But, yeah, I've wondered about those two sounding alike for awhile.

[Korbas]

Ultama, on 04 July 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 04 July 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

that posting style of Korbas could almost be related to the tongue in cheek of Tiam in a way,

I have blinders on a bit when it comes to Korbas. But, yeah, I've wondered about those two sounding alike for awhile.

I will be able to prove I am who I am after night is resolved. Not that I should have to. I think Okaros sounds like someone, Mockra and Ultima both came to mind but I don't know. I haven't looked too much into it.

[Korbas]

Any reason why night cannot be resolved now? Cause of the freeze?

[Ultama]

@Demelain

Can I claim a few ego points considering I helped stop ultima derailing the train?

Claim as many as you like. Getting them is somewhat more difficult.
But more seriously do we think that ultima left the train because he wanted to help mockra?

I said you we're right. Then I apologized for not meaning it.

That trake is Vord and flat out didn't want to vote for his team mate? And only did when he was vote 13 on our first 12 only lynch?


I think it's possible that Trake is an alt. I think he was just as surprised at the CF as most of us seem to be.

Or my personal favorite that okoras has only just started pipping up since mockra died because he now has more time to concentrate on his other alt?


There is either a connection between those two events or Okaros is going to become the victim of the worst coincidence in mafia history. I've already got my Vote Okaros tab open.

Also tiams and rashans banter is making me think there's some kind of doomsday mechanic where the Vord, once nearly defeated get a huge boost, but I'm not sure what

They seem to be implying that the FA faction is going to decide to take an active hand in the loyalist/rebel fight. And that the rebel/loyalists should take out the FAs while the Vord is around to "help" them.

[Ultama]

Korbas said:

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Any reason why night cannot be resolved now? Cause of the freeze?

He froze the timer with 4 hours left in night. He said the timer will unfreeze Friday morning.

[Ultama]

Korbas said:

1372945552[/url]' post='1068443']

Ultama said:

1372944603[/url]' post='1068439']

Sheltatha Lore said:

1372935423[/url]' post='1068415']
that posting style of Korbas could almost be related to the tongue in cheek of Tiam in a way,

I have blinders on a bit when it comes to Korbas. But, yeah, I've wondered about those two sounding alike for awhile.

I will be able to prove I am who I am after night is resolved. Not that I should have to. I think Okaros sounds like someone, Mockra and Ultima both came to mind but I don't know. I haven't looked too much into it.

How come proof is always coming "tomorrow"? And the fact that you can say that you shouldn't have to do so is rather mind boggling.

[Korbas]

Ultama, on 04 July 2013 - 01:57 PM, said:

Korbas, on 04 July 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

Ultama, on 04 July 2013 - 01:30 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 04 July 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

that posting style of Korbas could almost be related to the tongue in cheek of Tiam in a way,

I have blinders on a bit when it comes to Korbas. But, yeah, I've wondered about those two sounding alike for awhile.

I will be able to prove I am who I am after night is resolved. Not that I should have to. I think Okaros sounds like someone, Mockra and Ultima both came to mind but I don't know. I haven't looked too much into it.

How come proof is always coming "tomorrow"? And the fact that you can say that you shouldn't have to do so is rather mind boggling.

I keep putting out proof though. You say you cannot believe me about Calderon's fortification, however I have moved. That should show up on tomorrow's dawn post. I can say this now because move orders should have been filed before day timed out. So any baddies coming to get me would not know where I am until look at the dawn list tomorrow. Then I am moving again, either back to Calderon or somewhere else. What is dodgy about that? One thing you should be sure of is that I am not Vord. I could be any of the other three factions.

[Korbas]

Ultima, your post count increased yesterday after we had eliminated two vord. Then you made a case against Mockra who turned out to be a Vord. It looked as though you were scrambling. You accused a few people before that one stuck against Mockra. Why would you increase your post count that much after being silent for the first week of game play? I think you could be the Vord Queen and that you sacrificed Mockra to make yourself seem more like one of us. It is a theory I have anyway. I would probably up for lynching Okaros as a suspected Vord character but I would also be amenable to put some pressure on you.

[Liosan]

I really feel like Emu may be symping NG. Not sure whether there's anyhting too Vord-ish about it though.

[Okaros]

Korbas, on 04 July 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

Ultima, your post count increased yesterday after we had eliminated two vord. Then you made a case against Mockra who turned out to be a Vord. It looked as though you were scrambling. You accused a few people before that one stuck against Mockra. Why would you increase your post count that much after being silent for the first week of game play? I think you could be the Vord Queen and that you sacrificed Mockra to make yourself seem more like one of us. It is a theory I have anyway. I would probably up for lynching Okaros as a suspected Vord character but I would also be amenable to put some pressure on you.

Thats quite an interesting theory. It makes Ultama seem a bit hypocritical when he makes the case on me saying im vord because I've started participating more after the death of a vord, so that, to me, does seem pretty suspicious.

[Ultama]

Okaros, on 04 July 2013 - 02:43 PM, said:

Korbas, on 04 July 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

Ultima, your post count increased yesterday after we had eliminated two vord. Then you made a case against Mockra who turned out to be a Vord. It looked as though you were scrambling. You accused a few people before that one stuck against Mockra. Why would you increase your post count that much after being silent for the first week of game play? I think you could be the Vord Queen and that you sacrificed Mockra to make yourself seem more like one of us. It is a theory I have anyway. I would probably up for lynching Okaros as a suspected Vord character but I would also be amenable to put some pressure on you.

Thats quite an interesting theory. It makes Ultama seem a bit hypocritical when he makes the case on me saying im vord because I've started participating more after the death of a vord, so that, to me, does seem pretty suspicious.

Okaros you went from 10 to 17 in the two hours following Mockra's lynch. If you don't see why others would find that strange you're lying or not too bright. (And you might want to pay attention to the post by Korbas directly above the one you quoted. He implies that you and I might be the same person.)


My posting frequency is a very valid concern. I went from ~18 posts from start until Tuesday noon. Now I'm at 119. And a lot of those are one and two sentence comments i.e. spam. My answer is two fold:

• By now, of the 19 other players on the sign up sheet, there are at most 8 that may not have alted me. But it's still against the rules to out myself. So I will just say that it turns out my future was not in the stars.
• The books. I haven't read the books which left me quite unsure as to how to proceed. I came to the conclusion that I was either just going to be a spectator that way. So I decided that the books are irrelevant. I will play using only the knowledge given in the OP. This is mafia with a certain theme. Paying too much attention to the theme is a good way to lose the game.

And for the record I have no intention of voting you on Day 5 unless others get a decent sized train on you and maybe even not then. IMNSOHO, you are just too obviously a red herring.

[Okaros]

I understand that my actions are suspicious and don't see where i say it isn't. I was just saying it was interesting how both you and I have increased our post counts after the death of a vord, even though mine was a coincidence, and according to you, yours was too, and that you brought up my change. I haven't read the books either, and am playing with just OP info as well.

I'm fine with people putting pressure on me and acting on their suspicions, I just want to bring up other angles so we can see all possibilities.