[Pran Chole]

Oh hi! Back from the canoe trip and I have 16 pages of thread to read. I thought this was supposed to be a slow week

[Ultama]

Pran Chole, on 04 July 2013 - 10:35 PM, said:

Oh hi! Back from the canoe trip and I have 16 pages of thread to read. I thought this was supposed to be a slow week

Well a fair bit of that is Tiamatha and Rashan singing to each other.

[Pran Chole]

Ok, I'm on page 28 now, just a few things to throw out. Apologies if these are super out of date.

Korbas, on 03 July 2013 - 10:07 AM, said:

On First train but not second; Okaros, HP, Pran Chole and Demelain

On second but not on first; Nimander, Ryllandaras, Sheltatha and Kedeviss

On both; Liosan, Korbas, Alkend, Trake, Gait, Emurlahn, Ultama and Tellan.

What initially stands out to me is that Okaros, HP, Pran Chole and Kedeviss who are all on one train but not the other have around 15 posts each. Alkend also had around the same number 17 posts. We do not know how many votes more were needed on the first train. For all we know we could have needed an extra 2 or 3 votes.

I was away for a week. Tiam was at 1 or 2 votes when I left and unfortunately I was unable to get any wifi at the lodge so that's why I couldn't vote.

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:43 AM, said:

Korbas, on 03 July 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

Fener, on 03 July 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

I hate to shoot a nice theory in the foot, but Mockra has posted at times when Alkend has likely been asleep and vice versa. Not to say Mockra isn't suspicious, but I think they're not the same person.

Alkends posts fit within the bound of Demelain, Fener and Korbas.

There are a few other potentials, Gait, Liosan, Monok, Sheltatha and heh, Tiam have all posted significantly within the time frames although not providing a complete overlap.

Why do you think Alkend was more than one alt?

Because he was Vord. As I have already speculated it may not be Vord with multiple alts but it does fit better with the species. Also, I've not yet seen a post from Alkend in SH...

Sorry, what? You can read SH? Le huh?

Tiamatha, on 03 July 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

Aaaoooo oooo oooo. Ooooh oooh oooh. Aaaah aaah aaah ooooh oooh ohhh. Oh bi ba bo, bi bi bi ba bo, buu buu buu, ba bab bababaababababababaababaababaababababababababaaba

Barbara Ann?

[Pran Chole]

Nimander Golit, on 03 July 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

Fener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Okay, am I just being slow here, or did the Day update prove something to us? Other than the one missing alt (I'm inclined to think it either the Queen or the person whose ability it was) everyone had an alignment. So the speculation as to who owns multiple alts takes a potential twist. There was only one Vord shown. If the other was hidden, that's 2 vord, making the one on Elinarch the last non-voting alt. If the other Vord isn't hidden then a different faction has multiple alts.

Alkend was on my failed train, I'm moderately inclined to attribute its failure to him. 4th vote, not long after Okaros, who has also been laying low.

We started with 20 players and 22 alts. Two of those are gone now: Alkend and Venesara. It's safe to assume that Venesara was a player. 19 players, 21 alts.


The daily report lists 19 player locations, (With a possible 20th at Phyrgia.)

I am inclined to think that Tiamatha and Rashan have locations. (Rashan was killed. Rashan was therefore targeted.)


Gah. Not thinking straight here so just spitballing:

We have two DISTINCT categories of non player alts.

The two extra at the beginning do not have a presence on the tiles. They are puppets.

Tiamatha and Rashan have locations and are a mechanism of the Vord. Controlled by... the queen?

If that is correct, then Alkend was a player. 18 players + Tiamatha and Rashan.

I don't think Tiam and Rashan are specifically associated with locations. I think that since the Vord have two infested locations, they could spawn two new generic Vord alts last night, one from each infested tile and the alt starts in that tile, but once the alts are spawned they no longer need to be "associated" with that tile. So, ie, if Rashan respawned at Shuar and Tiam respawned at Narash, and then Tiam dies tonight we could have Tiam respawn at Shuar and Gamelon respawn from Narash. I think it's just a pool of alt names being reused but the queen(s) can spawn a new Vord in every infested tile every night (possibly at the expense of other abilities?) regardless of whether the previous Vord that spawned there have died or not.

When did Gamelon start being considered as a Vord alt? Did I miss something or is this a slip?

[Ultama]

Pran Chole, on 04 July 2013 - 11:53 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 03 July 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

Fener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Okay, am I just being slow here, or did the Day update prove something to us? Other than the one missing alt (I'm inclined to think it either the Queen or the person whose ability it was) everyone had an alignment. So the speculation as to who owns multiple alts takes a potential twist. There was only one Vord shown. If the other was hidden, that's 2 vord, making the one on Elinarch the last non-voting alt. If the other Vord isn't hidden then a different faction has multiple alts.

Alkend was on my failed train, I'm moderately inclined to attribute its failure to him. 4th vote, not long after Okaros, who has also been laying low.

We started with 20 players and 22 alts. Two of those are gone now: Alkend and Venesara. It's safe to assume that Venesara was a player. 19 players, 21 alts.


The daily report lists 19 player locations, (With a possible 20th at Phyrgia.)

I am inclined to think that Tiamatha and Rashan have locations. (Rashan was killed. Rashan was therefore targeted.)


Gah. Not thinking straight here so just spitballing:

We have two DISTINCT categories of non player alts.

The two extra at the beginning do not have a presence on the tiles. They are puppets.

Tiamatha and Rashan have locations and are a mechanism of the Vord. Controlled by... the queen?

If that is correct, then Alkend was a player. 18 players + Tiamatha and Rashan.

I don't think Tiam and Rashan are specifically associated with locations. I think that since the Vord have two infested locations, they could spawn two new generic Vord alts last night, one from each infested tile and the alt starts in that tile, but once the alts are spawned they no longer need to be "associated" with that tile. So, ie, if Rashan respawned at Shuar and Tiam respawned at Narash, and then Tiam dies tonight we could have Tiam respawn at Shuar and Gamelon respawn from Narash. I think it's just a pool of alt names being reused but the queen(s) can spawn a new Vord in every infested tile every night (possibly at the expense of other abilities?) regardless of whether the previous Vord that spawned there have died or not.

When did Gamelon start being considered as a Vord alt? Did I miss something or is this a slip?

I *think* it was just a name used for example of the spawning of a third Tia/Rashan type alt. But if a third is spawned and its name is Gamelon.....

[Pran Chole]

Ultama, on 05 July 2013 - 12:26 AM, said:

Pran Chole, on 04 July 2013 - 11:53 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 03 July 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

Fener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Okay, am I just being slow here, or did the Day update prove something to us? Other than the one missing alt (I'm inclined to think it either the Queen or the person whose ability it was) everyone had an alignment. So the speculation as to who owns multiple alts takes a potential twist. There was only one Vord shown. If the other was hidden, that's 2 vord, making the one on Elinarch the last non-voting alt. If the other Vord isn't hidden then a different faction has multiple alts.

Alkend was on my failed train, I'm moderately inclined to attribute its failure to him. 4th vote, not long after Okaros, who has also been laying low.

We started with 20 players and 22 alts. Two of those are gone now: Alkend and Venesara. It's safe to assume that Venesara was a player. 19 players, 21 alts.


The daily report lists 19 player locations, (With a possible 20th at Phyrgia.)

I am inclined to think that Tiamatha and Rashan have locations. (Rashan was killed. Rashan was therefore targeted.)


Gah. Not thinking straight here so just spitballing:

We have two DISTINCT categories of non player alts.

The two extra at the beginning do not have a presence on the tiles. They are puppets.

Tiamatha and Rashan have locations and are a mechanism of the Vord. Controlled by... the queen?

If that is correct, then Alkend was a player. 18 players + Tiamatha and Rashan.

I don't think Tiam and Rashan are specifically associated with locations. I think that since the Vord have two infested locations, they could spawn two new generic Vord alts last night, one from each infested tile and the alt starts in that tile, but once the alts are spawned they no longer need to be "associated" with that tile. So, ie, if Rashan respawned at Shuar and Tiam respawned at Narash, and then Tiam dies tonight we could have Tiam respawn at Shuar and Gamelon respawn from Narash. I think it's just a pool of alt names being reused but the queen(s) can spawn a new Vord in every infested tile every night (possibly at the expense of other abilities?) regardless of whether the previous Vord that spawned there have died or not.

When did Gamelon start being considered as a Vord alt? Did I miss something or is this a slip?

I *think* it was just a name used for example of the spawning of a third Tia/Rashan type alt. But if a third is spawned and its name is Gamelon.....

It piqued my curiosity because I thought the Gamelon alt was in this game. I was clearly thinking of the last game. Having now fully caught up I'm not happy with the sudden Okaros re-involvement but I'm hardly one who can pressure other people for lack of posting. RL affects us all. I'm probably going to vote for Korbas tomorrow since he's been slimy since the get go. I think I'm going to be cautiously optimistic in thinking that the lynches and NAs have just been damn good this game. Its certainly a trend of late to be hitting scum early. I am amenable to a Barghast lynch but I frankly think its not worth the wasted time unless he comes on with another subsistence post. For now, I'm going to get some rest and wait for the morning resolution.

[Liosan]

Ultama, on 05 July 2013 - 12:26 AM, said:

Pran Chole, on 04 July 2013 - 11:53 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 03 July 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

Fener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Okay, am I just being slow here, or did the Day update prove something to us? Other than the one missing alt (I'm inclined to think it either the Queen or the person whose ability it was) everyone had an alignment. So the speculation as to who owns multiple alts takes a potential twist. There was only one Vord shown. If the other was hidden, that's 2 vord, making the one on Elinarch the last non-voting alt. If the other Vord isn't hidden then a different faction has multiple alts.

Alkend was on my failed train, I'm moderately inclined to attribute its failure to him. 4th vote, not long after Okaros, who has also been laying low.

We started with 20 players and 22 alts. Two of those are gone now: Alkend and Venesara. It's safe to assume that Venesara was a player. 19 players, 21 alts.


The daily report lists 19 player locations, (With a possible 20th at Phyrgia.)

I am inclined to think that Tiamatha and Rashan have locations. (Rashan was killed. Rashan was therefore targeted.)


Gah. Not thinking straight here so just spitballing:

We have two DISTINCT categories of non player alts.

The two extra at the beginning do not have a presence on the tiles. They are puppets.

Tiamatha and Rashan have locations and are a mechanism of the Vord. Controlled by... the queen?

If that is correct, then Alkend was a player. 18 players + Tiamatha and Rashan.

I don't think Tiam and Rashan are specifically associated with locations. I think that since the Vord have two infested locations, they could spawn two new generic Vord alts last night, one from each infested tile and the alt starts in that tile, but once the alts are spawned they no longer need to be "associated" with that tile. So, ie, if Rashan respawned at Shuar and Tiam respawned at Narash, and then Tiam dies tonight we could have Tiam respawn at Shuar and Gamelon respawn from Narash. I think it's just a pool of alt names being reused but the queen(s) can spawn a new Vord in every infested tile every night (possibly at the expense of other abilities?) regardless of whether the previous Vord that spawned there have died or not.

When did Gamelon start being considered as a Vord alt? Did I miss something or is this a slip?

I *think* it was just a name used for example of the spawning of a third Tia/Rashan type alt. But if a third is spawned and its name is Gamelon.....

I bet Vengy will make the next alt to spawn Gamelon, just for shits and giggles.

[Pran Chole]

Liosan, on 05 July 2013 - 02:40 AM, said:

Ultama, on 05 July 2013 - 12:26 AM, said:

Pran Chole, on 04 July 2013 - 11:53 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 03 July 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Ultama, on 03 July 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

Fener, on 02 July 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Okay, am I just being slow here, or did the Day update prove something to us? Other than the one missing alt (I'm inclined to think it either the Queen or the person whose ability it was) everyone had an alignment. So the speculation as to who owns multiple alts takes a potential twist. There was only one Vord shown. If the other was hidden, that's 2 vord, making the one on Elinarch the last non-voting alt. If the other Vord isn't hidden then a different faction has multiple alts.

Alkend was on my failed train, I'm moderately inclined to attribute its failure to him. 4th vote, not long after Okaros, who has also been laying low.

We started with 20 players and 22 alts. Two of those are gone now: Alkend and Venesara. It's safe to assume that Venesara was a player. 19 players, 21 alts.


The daily report lists 19 player locations, (With a possible 20th at Phyrgia.)

I am inclined to think that Tiamatha and Rashan have locations. (Rashan was killed. Rashan was therefore targeted.)


Gah. Not thinking straight here so just spitballing:

We have two DISTINCT categories of non player alts.

The two extra at the beginning do not have a presence on the tiles. They are puppets.

Tiamatha and Rashan have locations and are a mechanism of the Vord. Controlled by... the queen?

If that is correct, then Alkend was a player. 18 players + Tiamatha and Rashan.

I don't think Tiam and Rashan are specifically associated with locations. I think that since the Vord have two infested locations, they could spawn two new generic Vord alts last night, one from each infested tile and the alt starts in that tile, but once the alts are spawned they no longer need to be "associated" with that tile. So, ie, if Rashan respawned at Shuar and Tiam respawned at Narash, and then Tiam dies tonight we could have Tiam respawn at Shuar and Gamelon respawn from Narash. I think it's just a pool of alt names being reused but the queen(s) can spawn a new Vord in every infested tile every night (possibly at the expense of other abilities?) regardless of whether the previous Vord that spawned there have died or not.

When did Gamelon start being considered as a Vord alt? Did I miss something or is this a slip?

I *think* it was just a name used for example of the spawning of a third Tia/Rashan type alt. But if a third is spawned and its name is Gamelon.....

I bet Vengy will make the next alt to spawn Gamelon, just for shits and giggles.

That would be evil even for him.

[Ultama]

Pran Chole said:

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Liosan said:

1372992033[/url]' post='1068582']

Ultama said:

1372983989[/url]' post='1068561']
I *think* it was just a name used for example of the spawning of a third Tia/Rashan type alt. But if a third is spawned and its name is Gamelon.....

I bet Vengy will make the next alt to spawn Gamelon, just for shits and giggles.

That would be evil even for him.

Yeah, I can't see him doing that. It would be tantamount to mod killing NG.
But if the next alt to spawn was named Gamalon, Gamelawn, Gammelon, etc? That I could see even Blend doing that.

[Pran Chole]

Ultama, on 05 July 2013 - 03:42 AM, said:

Pran Chole, on 05 July 2013 - 02:54 AM, said:

Liosan, on 05 July 2013 - 02:40 AM, said:

Ultama, on 05 July 2013 - 12:26 AM, said:

I *think* it was just a name used for example of the spawning of a third Tia/Rashan type alt. But if a third is spawned and its name is Gamelon.....

I bet Vengy will make the next alt to spawn Gamelon, just for shits and giggles.

That would be evil even for him.

Yeah, I can't see him doing that. It would be tantamount to mod killing NG.
But if the next alt to spawn was named Gamalon, Gamelawn, Gammelon, etc? That I could see even Blend doing that.

Gamalamadingdong.

[Vengeance]

Ultama, on 05 July 2013 - 03:42 AM, said:

Pran Chole said:

1372992891[/url]' post='1068585']

Liosan said:

1372992033[/url]' post='1068582']

Ultama said:

1372983989[/url]' post='1068561']
I *think* it was just a name used for example of the spawning of a third Tia/Rashan type alt. But if a third is spawned and its name is Gamelon.....

I bet Vengy will make the next alt to spawn Gamelon, just for shits and giggles.

That would be evil even for him.

Yeah, I can't see him doing that. It would be tantamount to mod killing NG.
But if the next alt to spawn was named Gamalon, Gamelawn, Gammelon, etc? That I could see even Blend doing that.
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Tempting thought though...

V

[Vengeance]

Ultama, on 04 July 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

Ultama, on 04 July 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

Potentially a generic response to a Water passive having been activated on the target?

I asked that question phrased in such a way that it made the answer about as unambiguous as PS answers will ever be.

I.e. Venge resolved, cocked up, gave you the response for a non-Fury attack and won't admit it?

Nope. It wasn't Veng. And I asked for and received a confirmation that the response was correct.

(For anyone who cares, PS is paying attention to the game. And it definitely isn't Veng.)

Fuck you shit bird.

I am paying attention and reading all of your crap. I only have one minor blip this entire fucking game. Me posting other shit on the thread isn't always a result of s fuck up.

[Gait]

Vengeance, on 05 July 2013 - 04:33 AM, said:

Ultama, on 04 July 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

Ultama, on 04 July 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

Potentially a generic response to a Water passive having been activated on the target?

I asked that question phrased in such a way that it made the answer about as unambiguous as PS answers will ever be.

I.e. Venge resolved, cocked up, gave you the response for a non-Fury attack and won't admit it?

Nope. It wasn't Veng. And I asked for and received a confirmation that the response was correct.

(For anyone who cares, PS is paying attention to the game. And it definitely isn't Veng.)

Fuck you shit bird.

I am paying attention and reading all of your crap. I only have one minor blip this entire fucking game. Me posting other shit on the thread isn't always a result of s fuck up.

I think I'm falling in love with you Venge.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Fuck off Gait, he's MINE.

[Liosan]

Vengeance, on 05 July 2013 - 04:33 AM, said:

Ultama, on 04 July 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

Ultama, on 04 July 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

Fener, on 04 July 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

Potentially a generic response to a Water passive having been activated on the target?

I asked that question phrased in such a way that it made the answer about as unambiguous as PS answers will ever be.

I.e. Venge resolved, cocked up, gave you the response for a non-Fury attack and won't admit it?

Nope. It wasn't Veng. And I asked for and received a confirmation that the response was correct.

(For anyone who cares, PS is paying attention to the game. And it definitely isn't Veng.)

Fuck you shit bird.

I am paying attention and reading all of your crap. I only have one minor blip this entire fucking game. Me posting other shit on the thread isn't always a result of s fuck up.

y'know, IF you were to let us block Tiam and Rash, you'd have to read about 40% less shit


just sayin'

[Gait]

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

Fuck off Gait, he's MINE.

We can share.

[Fener]

Pran Chole, on 04 July 2013 - 11:43 PM, said:

Ok, I'm on page 28 now, just a few things to throw out. Apologies if these are super out of date.

Korbas, on 03 July 2013 - 10:07 AM, said:

Because he was Vord. As I have already speculated it may not be Vord with multiple alts but it does fit better with the species. Also, I've not yet seen a post from Alkend in SH...

Sorry, what? You can read SH? Le huh?

Welcome back Pran

As much as anyone else can - I can see the "Last Post"

I guess a time wasn't specified for restart? Will Night still have to run its 4 hours or can we leap straight to the resolution?

[Nimander Golit]

Ultama, on 04 July 2013 - 10:29 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 04 July 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

Ok. I don't recall anyone earlier saying they had missed with a fireball, though. Are you saying now that you did? What night was this?

It just occurred to me that that is worded in such a way as to imply that I have dissembled or lied about previous actions.

First, fuck off.

Second, I don't believe that I've said anything that would indicate any action I may or may not have done. Other than asking about a passive ability.

Third, if you want information you might want to try providing some. And I don't mean in general. If you wish info from me, make it worth my while.

Fourth, uhm. Don't actually have a fourth. Other than fuck off.

I wasn't my intention to imply any such thing. I just wanted to be clear about what and when my references to were.

[Liosan]

Gait, on 05 July 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

Fuck off Gait, he's MINE.

We can share.

but will Venge share the hate? THAT is the question.

[Gait]

Liosan, on 05 July 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

Gait, on 05 July 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

Fuck off Gait, he's MINE.

We can share.

but will Venge share the hate? THAT is the question.

Venge is a hate whore. He will share it with anyone.