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Timelords 3 - The Timestream

#81 User is offline   Bek Okhan 

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 01:40 PM

View PostLock, on 24 February 2014 - 03:43 PM, said:

Checking in, and I'm out again.



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View PostMonok Ochem, on 24 February 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

View PostRikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 02:20 PM, said:

Firstly, second.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 24 February 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha



View PostMonok Ochem, on 24 February 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Good afternoon. Like a true primate, I'm first.


Secondly, you're not playing according to PS.

Therefore...

First!


Not my problem five of my alts weren't listed in the OP.


Now you've said that you know what needs to be done.

Vote Tiam


This vote is totally random including a bunch of gibberish as it makes you look like you could be signalling you aren't Wha'ts his name that started this whole mess to begin with. Sounds like he should be a priority for the group and then lets move on to figuring out wholes an original and who's a copy.



View PostKessobahn, on 24 February 2014 - 09:42 PM, said:

Checking in.



View PostTiamatha, on 24 February 2014 - 11:42 PM, said:

Checking in as well.



View PostEloth, on 25 February 2014 - 05:18 AM, said:

I'm here, but all this needlessly antagonistic bullshit is irritating me, and also it's a nice day, so I'm going outside. I'll be back later.


Here are the sugar gliders. One post before melting into the forest.

And the noisy ones are definitely noisy. No middle ground this game. My current thoughts are that we will have several roles trying to stay careful and under the radar, including King Sunday, Lady Ete, Tertian, and Domingo (maybe also their dopplegangers depending on how similar their abilities are), which will muddy the hunt for Domingo.

Currently Domingo is our most prominent target, given he is definitely not on anyone's team. However, it seems like he represents an early DDay at worst and otherwise is just a survivor role (at least from what the OP indicates), making him not an urgent target. But I am inclined to hesitate lynching because I have a just under 50% chance of hitting my team. And I think that is the majority opinion currently given the lack of substantial votes.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 01:47 PM

View PostBek Okhan, on 25 February 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

Here are the sugar gliders. One post before melting into the forest.

There are a few who indicated they'd be low volume, not 5 though! Got to be a couple of coasters minimum in there.

View PostBek Okhan, on 25 February 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

And the noisy ones are definitely noisy. No middle ground this game. My current thoughts are that we will have several roles trying to stay careful and under the radar, including King Sunday, Lady Ete, Tertian, and Domingo (maybe also their dopplegangers depending on how similar their abilities are), which will muddy the hunt for Domingo.

Noisy is nice - lets us get a feel for people rather than one line posts. We can work from that.

View PostBek Okhan, on 25 February 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

Currently Domingo is our most prominent target, given he is definitely not on anyone's team. However, it seems like he represents an early DDay at worst and otherwise is just a survivor role (at least from what the OP indicates), making him not an urgent target. But I am inclined to hesitate lynching because I have a just under 50% chance of hitting my team. And I think that is the majority opinion currently given the lack of substantial votes.

Indeed, my opinion too FWTW. Day 1 is usually a crap lynch anyway, I'd much rather be voting once I have a feel for people.

As I said before, I'm out from now till gone end of day, I will check up on occasion though so may be able to vote

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 02:02 PM

I would not want to push a lynch not knowing who is affiliated to whom. However, you cannot draw those conclusions from 1 post.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 02:15 PM

I agree with those who say hunting for Domingo right now is something of a wild goose chase. Any role which has more than one type of VC must have a lengthy and difficult process in coming out as sole winner.

There seems to be quite a high level of aggressive behaviour early doors from a few individuals. Interesting until it simply starts spamming up the thread, as it has done. For the record, the joke vote on Tiam immediately looked like a joke vote to me, albeit a lame one, because it referred back to a previous game. Galayn Lord's attacking posts also look like making a mountain of crap out of a molehill. So much so that it makes me wonder whether that's a deliberate way of deflecting from themselves, i.e. 'an important role wouldn't play like that.'

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 02:35 PM

It is now Day 1. 11 hours 49 minutes remaining.

13 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote Rikkter: Korabas


Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 02:41 PM

To set the record straight, the teams are equal.

It is 6v6v1.

I rejigged Doppelganger abilities to balance the game.

I thought this was clear when I killed off Milenio and Epoch. It has come to my attention from various offthread comms as well as the discussions on thread that it is not.
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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:14 PM

Ok great, we're on equal footing.

Makes this alot harder than I earlier expected. I had Monok pegged for team Sunday, probably thought he was king sunday. Figured with less numbers the hesitant players would try avoid needless lynching of allies and Monok really bore down on that point. As its all square we can take a breather and re-evaluate. so part of the idea behind my coaster hunt falls to the way side.

Given the collective attitude I guess not running a lynch is ok for all of us. Vigs can use the night period to get some decent info on vocal and non vocal targets. I'm guessing IF domingo needs a train to start or complete vigs can focus on ferreting out coasters while we all start working out whos who.

Would be interesting if our coasters are the royalty big-wigs. Feels a bit simple though. Kess may have a point about the vocal troop but honestly this has been a pretty vocal majority.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:20 PM

I can just see Rikkter's big head smiling like Chaur on his birthday

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:37 PM

A few people gave warnings before the game began about possibly being very busy during the first day, or the first few days etc....

I don't think we want to point out specific warnings and reveal ourselves, but I explained my possible lack of posting for the start of the game if it began this Monday.

With that said, my situation is now clear. I am reading up.....

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:38 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 25 February 2014 - 02:41 PM, said:

To set the record straight, the teams are equal.

It is 6v6v1.

I rejigged Doppelganger abilities to balance the game.

I thought this was clear when I killed off Milenio and Epoch. It has come to my attention from various offthread comms as well as the discussions on thread that it is not.


I also thought the teams were uneven. Thanks for clearing this up.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:43 PM

View PostKessobahn, on 25 February 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

I agree with those who say hunting for Domingo right now is something of a wild goose chase. Any role which has more than one type of VC must have a lengthy and difficult process in coming out as sole winner.

There seems to be quite a high level of aggressive behaviour early doors from a few individuals. Interesting until it simply starts spamming up the thread, as it has done. For the record, the joke vote on Tiam immediately looked like a joke vote to me, albeit a lame one, because it referred back to a previous game. Galayn Lord's attacking posts also look like making a mountain of crap out of a molehill. So much so that it makes me wonder whether that's a deliberate way of deflecting from themselves, i.e. 'an important role wouldn't play like that.'


I don't like the joke vote on me, and agree it was very lame. He assumed everyone playing would instantly get the reason for it, as if all of us had participated in the Vord Game.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:48 PM

View PostKessobahn, on 25 February 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

I agree with those who say hunting for Domingo right now is something of a wild goose chase. Any role which has more than one type of VC must have a lengthy and difficult process in coming out as sole winner.

There seems to be quite a high level of aggressive behaviour early doors from a few individuals. Interesting until it simply starts spamming up the thread, as it has done. For the record, the joke vote on Tiam immediately looked like a joke vote to me, albeit a lame one, because it referred back to a previous game. Galayn Lord's attacking posts also look like making a mountain of crap out of a molehill. So much so that it makes me wonder whether that's a deliberate way of deflecting from themselves, i.e. 'an important role wouldn't play like that.'


That would actually be an extremely clever way to play, using the common ideas on how different roles play and doing the opposite. However, to follow this train of thought is WIFOM, so I feel like we need to look more for connections between people than basing a train on how someone's playing style seems to place them in a certain role.

I'm not saying that would be useless evidence to help add support to a case, but I don't think that a case should form only off of someone's play style.

On a slightly unrelated note, anyone else think it's possible that the people attacking each other and basically just cluttering the thread with angry posts, are distancing?

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:55 PM

Sorry for the disapearing act but my Day yesterday was brutal. I may have some time the next 12 hours to, you know, actually be able to read the thread and contribute to the mess that is mafia. First I need to see where the lynch train is at and see if I need to drop down a vote somewhere soon.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 03:59 PM

Well that's a relief. Looks like there is only one vote out there so no pressing need for me to plop down a random vote and disapear back to the abyss. I may try and do a reverse dkt style. But then I'll likely just confuse myself for than is necessary. Naw not a good idea.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 04:05 PM

It is now Day 1. 10 hours 19 minutes remaining.

13 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote Rikkter: Korabas


Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha
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Posted 25 February 2014 - 04:08 PM

View PostTiamatha, on 25 February 2014 - 03:43 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 25 February 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

I agree with those who say hunting for Domingo right now is something of a wild goose chase. Any role which has more than one type of VC must have a lengthy and difficult process in coming out as sole winner.

There seems to be quite a high level of aggressive behaviour early doors from a few individuals. Interesting until it simply starts spamming up the thread, as it has done. For the record, the joke vote on Tiam immediately looked like a joke vote to me, albeit a lame one, because it referred back to a previous game. Galayn Lord's attacking posts also look like making a mountain of crap out of a molehill. So much so that it makes me wonder whether that's a deliberate way of deflecting from themselves, i.e. 'an important role wouldn't play like that.'


I don't like the joke vote on me, and agree it was very lame. He assumed everyone playing would instantly get the reason for it, as if all of us had participated in the Vord Game.



Not liking a Joke vote OMG. Boo Hoo cry me a river it's part of mafia. Nut up my multi headed friend. And Kessobahn I really don't like what you are impling with the talk of not hunting Domingo right now. That is saying oh don't worry he's not anything we need to worry about, don't mind the man behind the curtain, blah blah blah when it's exactly what we need to focus on. Reminded me of mafia 100 when the serial killer was known but not dealt with right away. When we finally got around to lynching his ass he ended up too strong and couldn't be dealt with. The focus should be first getting rid of that mastermind behind this mess and as a secondary focus eliminating the mirror images either the original or copy.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 04:11 PM

View PostLock, on 25 February 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 25 February 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

I agree with those who say hunting for Domingo right now is something of a wild goose chase. Any role which has more than one type of VC must have a lengthy and difficult process in coming out as sole winner.

There seems to be quite a high level of aggressive behaviour early doors from a few individuals. Interesting until it simply starts spamming up the thread, as it has done. For the record, the joke vote on Tiam immediately looked like a joke vote to me, albeit a lame one, because it referred back to a previous game. Galayn Lord's attacking posts also look like making a mountain of crap out of a molehill. So much so that it makes me wonder whether that's a deliberate way of deflecting from themselves, i.e. 'an important role wouldn't play like that.'


That would actually be an extremely clever way to play, using the common ideas on how different roles play and doing the opposite. However, to follow this train of thought is WIFOM, so I feel like we need to look more for connections between people than basing a train on how someone's playing style seems to place them in a certain role.

I'm not saying that would be useless evidence to help add support to a case, but I don't think that a case should form only off of someone's play style.

On a slightly unrelated note, anyone else think it's possible that the people attacking each other and basically just cluttering the thread with angry posts, are distancing?



I guess it depends on how things are set up, obviously, but very possible. 'Who knows who' will potentially be the groundwork for how this game progresses.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 04:11 PM

View PostLock, on 25 February 2014 - 03:48 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on 25 February 2014 - 02:15 PM, said:

I agree with those who say hunting for Domingo right now is something of a wild goose chase. Any role which has more than one type of VC must have a lengthy and difficult process in coming out as sole winner.

There seems to be quite a high level of aggressive behaviour early doors from a few individuals. Interesting until it simply starts spamming up the thread, as it has done. For the record, the joke vote on Tiam immediately looked like a joke vote to me, albeit a lame one, because it referred back to a previous game. Galayn Lord's attacking posts also look like making a mountain of crap out of a molehill. So much so that it makes me wonder whether that's a deliberate way of deflecting from themselves, i.e. 'an important role wouldn't play like that.'


That would actually be an extremely clever way to play, using the common ideas on how different roles play and doing the opposite. However, to follow this train of thought is WIFOM, so I feel like we need to look more for connections between people than basing a train on how someone's playing style seems to place them in a certain role.

I'm not saying that would be useless evidence to help add support to a case, but I don't think that a case should form only off of someone's play style.

On a slightly unrelated note, anyone else think it's possible that the people attacking each other and basically just cluttering the thread with angry posts, are distancing?


Reading backwards I can't say but from past experience I've found drawing a shit ton of attention to yourself to convince others that by your very play you are in fact not importanat never works. It could be that I just suck and scream "Lynch Me" subliminally when in fact I want just the opposite. Maybe someone else has been able to pull that type of play off. Me not so much.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 06:30 PM

It is now Day 1. 8 hours 54 minutes remaining.

13 players alive: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korabas, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha

7 votes to lynch. 7 votes to go to night.

1 vote Rikkter: Korabas


Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha
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Posted 25 February 2014 - 06:48 PM

View PostBek Okhan, on 25 February 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:

View PostLock, on 24 February 2014 - 03:43 PM, said:

Checking in, and I'm out again.



View PostDenul, on 24 February 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

View PostRikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 02:38 PM, said:

View PostMonok Ochem, on 24 February 2014 - 02:35 PM, said:

View PostRikkter, on 24 February 2014 - 02:20 PM, said:

Firstly, second.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 24 February 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

Players not voted: Alkend, Bek Okhan, Denul, Eloth, Galayn Lord, Iparth Erule, Kessobahn, Korvalain, Lock, Monok Ochem, Okral Lom, Rikkter, Tiamatha



View PostMonok Ochem, on 24 February 2014 - 02:07 PM, said:

Good afternoon. Like a true primate, I'm first.


Secondly, you're not playing according to PS.

Therefore...

First!


Not my problem five of my alts weren't listed in the OP.


Now you've said that you know what needs to be done.

Vote Tiam


This vote is totally random including a bunch of gibberish as it makes you look like you could be signalling you aren't Wha'ts his name that started this whole mess to begin with. Sounds like he should be a priority for the group and then lets move on to figuring out wholes an original and who's a copy.



View PostKessobahn, on 24 February 2014 - 09:42 PM, said:

Checking in.



View PostTiamatha, on 24 February 2014 - 11:42 PM, said:

Checking in as well.



View PostEloth, on 25 February 2014 - 05:18 AM, said:

I'm here, but all this needlessly antagonistic bullshit is irritating me, and also it's a nice day, so I'm going outside. I'll be back later.


Here are the sugar gliders. One post before melting into the forest.

And the noisy ones are definitely noisy. No middle ground this game. My current thoughts are that we will have several roles trying to stay careful and under the radar, including King Sunday, Lady Ete, Tertian, and Domingo (maybe also their dopplegangers depending on how similar their abilities are), which will muddy the hunt for Domingo.

Currently Domingo is our most prominent target, given he is definitely not on anyone's team. However, it seems like he represents an early DDay at worst and otherwise is just a survivor role (at least from what the OP indicates), making him not an urgent target. But I am inclined to hesitate lynching because I have a just under 50% chance of hitting my team. And I think that is the majority opinion currently given the lack of substantial votes.



The sugar gliders at that point in the day, but there was still plenty of time on the clock. Now, there is less so.

Like most games on day 1, there isn't much to go on, and with this not being a typical town vs scum game, choosing the first lynch choice is even harder. Either way, unless we get lucky and hit Domingo, we're going to have to make risky choices to start the game off.

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