[Tulas Shorn]

I like it, we've got somewhere to go. I'll be placing my vote either on Karosis, Shelly, or going with Ay's "Kesso's too friendly" vote, as I also got similar vibes from his posts. I'll place my vote in an hour or two, as I may not be around closer to timeout (although with this game I guess you never know when timeout might be!).

[Nimander Golit]

I won't be around much longer, got some evening plans but I'll try and check in on my phone as often as possible. I feel we still have plenty of hours left before I need to cast my vote. Assuming time doesn't shift too much I'll be back well before the buzzer.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 12 hours and 18 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
2 Votes for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose, Tennes )
1 Vote for Kessobahn (Ay Estos)

Players not voted: Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tulas Shorn   

[Merrid]

Sorrit, on 28 May 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Also, are timelord time changes via ironman rules?

Isn't this something you should be asking PS by PM rather than on thread?

Anyway, I assume once PS notes them they are effected on thread.

[Sorrit]

Merrid, on 29 May 2013 - 12:28 AM, said:

Sorrit, on 28 May 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

Also, are timelord time changes via ironman rules?

Isn't this something you should be asking PS by PM rather than on thread?

Anyway, I assume once PS notes them they are effected on thread.

Knowing venge, if I have done something unbecoming, he or blend will let me know in no uncertain terms. Thanks for your attempt at tattle-taling! I'm sure it is appreciated by those incompetent mods

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 10 hours and 53 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
2 Votes for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose, Tennes )
1 Vote for Kessobahn (Ay Estos)

Players not voted: Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tulas Shorn  

[Tulas Shorn]

On a read-through I'm actually not particularly sold on any of the three choices I outlined earlier, not even Kesso. However, I also can't find anything better. So because of this post:

Kessobahn, on 28 May 2013 - 05:52 PM, said:

I have the feeling we have the classic case of 2 vocal townies barking at each other in day 1 antics. Somewhat expected after the poor showing last game, but faction games are a different beast all together from M&P. Good to see more participation though.

If I had to pick a side here I would lean towards Shelly being the scum as he did sound pretty defensive in that post. The matter seemed to be dropped and he comes back with that post.

Really though, probably 2 town members going at it.

I'll vote Kesso. This post might be pre-empting a (perhaps much) later 'told you so' post, and at the same time it's pushing on Shelly nonetheless, which seems somewhat incongruous having just stated the belief that they're both innos.

Vote Kessobahn

[Ay Estos]

Kessos posts just seemed like they were worded with care to be informative while innocuous. As far as cases go, Shelly is more likely to be scum, so Tulas vote joining mine notwithstanding, I will switch.

remove vote
vote sheltatha lore

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 9 hours and 10 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Kessobahn ( Tulas Shorn )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
3 Votes for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose, Tennes, Ay Estos )
1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )

Players not voted: Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 29 May 2013 - 03:33 AM

[Fener]

well, there hasn't been a whole heap of stuff, now has there?


barring any more timelordly shenanigans, there's about 6 hours to go. I won't be on in time to lynch, so I have to vote now.



Shelly's over-defence irks me. I can see the reasoning but i've always been a firm believer in the fact that if all evidence people marshall against you is Day 1 stuff, you are fully entitled to laugh in their face and call it a good defence. As such I don't see this WIFOM about NKs and painting himself as a conspiracy victim as anyhting productive or justified. So i'm fine with voting him



Vote Shelthatha Lore



g'night, y'all

[Kessobahn]

Checking in before bed.

@ Tulas I wasn't being ambiguous with my post. Simply stating that if I did have to vote for one of the two that I would chose Shelly. It's day 1. It's hard to imagine scum getting in a pissing match on day one. Hence me saying that they are probably inno. Am I confident? No, but simply based on the bast 102 games that's usually how it shakes out. Now it's come down to me karosis or shelly and I am forced to make a choice, and as I stated earlier I feel Shelly is more likely to be scum. He stated as fact that the scum TL couldn't kill when there is no indication anywhere that that is the case. That, followed by his defensive post when the matter seemed to be settled is enough for me.

vote Sheltatha Lore

[Kessobahn]

X-post with fener.

Also, where the hell is Barghast.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Well. Since I have exams coming up it's not a bad thing I'm getting lynched.
But, I will call you all retards when I come up inno and the Karosis comes up scum.
I'm sleep deprived so good night you all.

Just to make sure you retards get your lynch so that you won't waste tomorrow lynching me as well.

Remove vote
Vote Sheltatha Lore






PS: You are all a bunch of stupid fucktards lynching the most vocal townie.

[Ay Estos]

Vocal does not equal quality,

[Sheltatha Lore]

Tennes, on 28 May 2013 - 10:30 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

So you're saying that the nested quotes were just misleading me?

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Because going back to the two comments (138 and 139) Tennes made it's obvious that his use of "WIFOM" was aimed at Sheltatha Lore, not Karosis.

I would hardly say I'm being obtuse. Post 138 appeared to me to be referring to Karosis' quote which was the last one in the nest. Post 139 also appears to be directed at the Karosis quote at the bottom of that nest. I asked Tennes to clarify because a thread that is unclear is a thread where scum can hide.

I will clarify below...

Tennes, on 28 May 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Okay, I'm here for realz now. So it looks like we have two scum to begin with, but scum are more like a cult than killers. Depending on how their recruiting mechanic works (and how good/bad our lynching is), the scum team could grow quickly.

I think their recruiting mechanic would be once a night. Because they don't have the traditional NK of scum, they should have something that removes one town every night so that they won't be too weak and this game won't take forever.
Of course that would be OP if used against a normal town, so we have some town roles...
I mean other alternatives are not really acceptable are they? if the recruit action was once every two nights then the scum team would have been the weaker team during night and that is just silly.

How do you know they do not have a night kill? Is this a slip up? There are two scum members according to the OP, we know one is a recruiter but how do we know the other one does not have a night kill?

This looks like a slip to me. OP doesn't say anything about the Timelords being killers, only recruiters.

I think Sheltatha's comment in red was a slip. There was no mention of Timelords being killers in the OP, so that looks like he has some knowledge that the rest of us don't.

I'm gonna say this again. Because you are obviously too lazy to read the thread:
There is no mention of TLs being killers in the OP because the fucking ARE NOT killers. They were not killers in the first game so I'm assuming they are not killers here either. it's not quantum physics, it is a pretty simple thought process. I will even explain it again for your convenience.
a)TLs were not killers in the game Time Lords one.
b)It is said in the OP of game Time Lords two that scum have one recruiter and one time lord.
c) putting a and b together means that most probably time lords are not fucking killers.
The fact that I can put two and two together does not mean I'm scum. It means I actually use my brain instead of saying the first thing that comes into my mind. (and not even reading the thread before doing it, Karosis said the exact same thing)
Normally, I would end this post with a string of swear words directed at your female relatives but I'm trying to cut down on my swearing so I will just imagine I said those swear words.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Ay Estos, on 29 May 2013 - 05:58 AM, said:

Vocal does not equal quality,

Yes, But you fucktards just try to lynch to fucker with most posts (in this instance me). when you don't succeed because it is a shitty way of choosing a lynch target, you say there was resistance on thread and try to lynch him on day two. all the while scum are laughing their asses off at your stupidity.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Real good night now. I'm fucking sleep depraved.
And If Karosis comes up scum, I will call all of you retards until the end of time.

[Aranatha]

Sheltatha Lore, on 29 May 2013 - 06:03 AM, said:

Real good night now. I'm fucking sleep depraved.
And If Karosis comes up scum, I will call all of you retards until the end of time.

Meh. No-one can say on day 1 who is scum and who isn't with any certainty, unless Mac makes a drunk slip on thread.


I have to agree with Ay Estos about quantity =/= quantity. Nor, as you seem to claim, can we be certain that you are TOWN's highest poster, as you claim. You might be scum with time on your hands. /shrug.
What's more, anything said by you does not exempt you from being scum. They are simple deductions that everyone should make, and those that don't are being lazy.
Now, lazyness isn't good but it isn't scummy either. Likewise, being diligent and doing the necessary leg work doesn't make you town either.

In essence, by coming over so forcibly, you may have dug your own grave where a more mellow approach would have kept you alive.

With a lot of hesitation, as I think the reasoning behind this lynch sucks donkeyballs:

Remove vote
Vote Sheltatha Lore.

[Karosis]

I'm around. Just getting into work, then I'll have a little time to catch up.

[Karosis]

The thing that irked me about Shelly was his turn around. He calls me a retard for thinking there could be kills but then says if there are kills I was trying to frame him. So he thinks there isn't but then thinks there could be. It wasn't a bad thing to bring up because both Kesso and Fener say we cannot discount the possibility, yet, Aranatha shows us D day. Last game D day was a similar day at the start of the game with 15 players.



Two things on my mind at the moment, the first is if town will have a recruier ie the undisclosed role



The second is that we should be trying to find the recruiter but so far have been discussing the timelord. The first thing I am going to do after resolution is read up and see if I can spot anything.