[Sorrit]

Also, are timelord time changes via ironman rules?

[Eloth]

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

Time has been moved forward

It is Day 1. 15 hours and 46 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

Since that line at the beginning of what looks to be a standard time update could be highlighted in some way? It is very easy to miss.

[Path-Shaper]

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

Time has been moved forward

It is Day 1. 15 hours and 46 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

Since that line at the beginning of what looks to be a standard time update could be highlighted in some way? It is very easy to miss.

Then you'll just have to be a bit more observant.

I've been going in behind Venge and bolding the line. That's all you guys will get. If you can't pay enough attention, that's not really MY problem, now is it?

-Blend

[Eloth]

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

Time has been moved forward

It is Day 1. 15 hours and 46 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

Since that line at the beginning of what looks to be a standard time update could be highlighted in some way? It is very easy to miss.

Then you'll just have to be a bit more observant.

I've been going in behind Venge and bolding the line. That's all you guys will get. If you can't pay enough attention, that's not really MY problem, now is it?

-Blend

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

The vote should be positioned at the end of a post, and be clearly seperated from the rest of the post. Example:

Quote

your text, many quotes, brilliant arguments and a clever and convincing conclusion. Alternatively, a lame joke.

remove vote
vote Killer

I was just asking for the same courtesy to be shown to us.

Edit: added the "The vote should be positioned at the end of a post, and be clearly seperated from the rest of the post. Example:"

This post has been edited by Eloth: 28 May 2013 - 09:12 PM

[Sorrit]

One more thought before I go: what's to stop our TL from setting back the clock on a recruitment so as to get the name of the recruiter from the rescued recruitee?

[Merrid]

In the last game we were told "Lord <name>, the Timelord has moved time <direction>. Are we not getting that this time? Admittedly there aren't so many TLs but it'd be nice to know who is fiddling.

[Path-Shaper]

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 09:03 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

Time has been moved forward

It is Day 1. 15 hours and 46 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

Since that line at the beginning of what looks to be a standard time update could be highlighted in some way? It is very easy to miss.

Then you'll just have to be a bit more observant.

I've been going in behind Venge and bolding the line. That's all you guys will get. If you can't pay enough attention, that's not really MY problem, now is it?

-Blend

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

The vote should be positioned at the end of a post, and be clearly seperated from the rest of the post. Example:

Quote

your text, many quotes, brilliant arguments and a clever and convincing conclusion. Alternatively, a lame joke.

remove vote
vote Killer

I was just asking for the same courtesy to be shown to us.

Edit: added the "The vote should be positioned at the end of a post, and be clearly seperated from the rest of the post. Example:"

There is a slight difference between us and you.

We are the mods. The line was separated from the rest of the post. Perhaps if people read the fucking thread they wouldn't miss it huh.

V

[Path-Shaper]

Merrid, on 28 May 2013 - 09:16 PM, said:

In the last game we were told "Lord <name>, the Timelord has moved time <direction>. Are we not getting that this time? Admittedly there aren't so many TLs but it'd be nice to know who is fiddling.

Last game was called Time lords. This is Time lords 2. I would assume if I was a player that changes have been made between the two and that the mods know what the fuck they are doing and have carefully gone over the information that is put on thread.


V

[Ay Estos]

Kessobahn, on 28 May 2013 - 04:29 PM, said:

All caught up. I think it's dangerous to make the assumption that the scum faction can't kill. That being said, we only have to wait till a few nights pass to find out. Personally, I don't think that they will have the kill ability as a scum that can move time, has NK's and a partner who recruits... well, that seems a bit over powered for a vig, guard, TL and 1-2 unspecified roles to combat.

Kessobahn, on 28 May 2013 - 05:52 PM, said:

I have the feeling we have the classic case of 2 vocal townies barking at each other in day 1 antics. Somewhat expected after the poor showing last game, but faction games are a different beast all together from M&P. Good to see more participation though.

If I had to pick a side here I would lean towards Shelly being the scum as he did sound pretty defensive in that post. The matter seemed to be dropped and he comes back with that post.

Really though, probably 2 town members going at it.

Mr Helpful, you're the one
Making Mafia, humdrum fun
Mr. Helpful I'm awfully suspicious of you.

Vote Kessobahn

Cutting insight. Implied certainty about who is 'likely' town.
I am Ay Estos, and I approve this message.

[Ay Estos]

BTW, my avatar is in honor of all the ladies of the Midwest United States who are still rocking the frosted bangs and blue eye shadow of the 80's. You can't tell, but I'm also wearing stonewashed jeans in that pic.

[Nimander Golit]

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

So you're saying that the nested quotes were just misleading me?

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Because going back to the two comments (138 and 139) Tennes made it's obvious that his use of "WIFOM" was aimed at Sheltatha Lore, not Karosis.

I would hardly say I'm being obtuse. Post 138 appeared to me to be referring to Karosis' quote which was the last one in the nest. Post 139 also appears to be directed at the Karosis quote at the bottom of that nest. I asked Tennes to clarify because a thread that is unclear is a thread where scum can hide.

[Path-Shaper]

This mod is gone. Maintain until the next one gets home.

V

[Merrid]

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

This mod is gone. Maintain until the next one gets home.

V

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 14 hours and 43 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose )
1 Vote for Kessobahn (Ay Estos)

Players not voted: Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn 

[Kessobahn]

Ay Estos, on 28 May 2013 - 09:19 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 28 May 2013 - 04:29 PM, said:

All caught up. I think it's dangerous to make the assumption that the scum faction can't kill. That being said, we only have to wait till a few nights pass to find out. Personally, I don't think that they will have the kill ability as a scum that can move time, has NK's and a partner who recruits... well, that seems a bit over powered for a vig, guard, TL and 1-2 unspecified roles to combat.

Kessobahn, on 28 May 2013 - 05:52 PM, said:

I have the feeling we have the classic case of 2 vocal townies barking at each other in day 1 antics. Somewhat expected after the poor showing last game, but faction games are a different beast all together from M&P. Good to see more participation though.

If I had to pick a side here I would lean towards Shelly being the scum as he did sound pretty defensive in that post. The matter seemed to be dropped and he comes back with that post.

Really though, probably 2 town members going at it.

Mr Helpful, you're the one
Making Mafia, humdrum fun
Mr. Helpful I'm awfully suspicious of you.

Vote Kessobahn

Cutting insight. Implied certainty about who is 'likely' town.
I am Ay Estos, and I approve this message.

Being "helpful" and stating where you stand on 2 issues are completely different things. Strawman much?

[Kessobahn]

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

I was just asking for the same courtesy to be shown to us.

Edit: added the "The vote should be positioned at the end of a post, and be clearly seperated from the rest of the post. Example:"

Is it really hard to read Path Shaper's posts?

[Tennes]

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

So you're saying that the nested quotes were just misleading me?

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Because going back to the two comments (138 and 139) Tennes made it's obvious that his use of "WIFOM" was aimed at Sheltatha Lore, not Karosis.

I would hardly say I'm being obtuse. Post 138 appeared to me to be referring to Karosis' quote which was the last one in the nest. Post 139 also appears to be directed at the Karosis quote at the bottom of that nest. I asked Tennes to clarify because a thread that is unclear is a thread where scum can hide.

I will clarify below...

Tennes, on 28 May 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Okay, I'm here for realz now. So it looks like we have two scum to begin with, but scum are more like a cult than killers. Depending on how their recruiting mechanic works (and how good/bad our lynching is), the scum team could grow quickly.

I think their recruiting mechanic would be once a night. Because they don't have the traditional NK of scum, they should have something that removes one town every night so that they won't be too weak and this game won't take forever.
Of course that would be OP if used against a normal town, so we have some town roles...
I mean other alternatives are not really acceptable are they? if the recruit action was once every two nights then the scum team would have been the weaker team during night and that is just silly.

How do you know they do not have a night kill? Is this a slip up? There are two scum members according to the OP, we know one is a recruiter but how do we know the other one does not have a night kill?

This looks like a slip to me. OP doesn't say anything about the Timelords being killers, only recruiters.

I think Sheltatha's comment in red was a slip. There was no mention of Timelords being killers in the OP, so that looks like he has some knowledge that the rest of us don't.

Tennes, on 28 May 2013 - 05:31 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

I think the guys that have modded know more about mechanics but it shouldn't hurt those of us that haven't through discussion. If the consensus is no kills then fair enough but there could be some other dope like me wondering the same thing. I thought I caught Shelly out in a lie.

You know what is scummy here?
If there is a NK (which I'm pretty sure won't happen) you will say that I lied so I'm scum.
If there isn't a NK then you will say that I have knowledge not available to the thread so I'm scum.

Basically, you are trying to frame me in here and that means you are scum.

This is highly defensive and a really odd post. I said I thought I caught you in a lie. You refute that claim which is well and good. Now you go on the defensive. I am a bit baffled by your behaviour.

I agree. Looks like a bunch of WIFOM.

The comments in red from Shelly are his WIFOM where he whines that he is now going to be called scum regardless of what happens.

It wouldn't be the first time that someone slips and drops info about their own role that ends up damning them. At the moment it's the best day 1 case that I've seen. I'll drop my vote here unless I see a better option before I go to bed.

[Tennes]

I may as well drop a vote, since Nimander will say that I didn't specify who I would be voting. I will be checking back though.

vote Sheltatha

[Nimander Golit]

Tennes, on 28 May 2013 - 10:30 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

Eloth, on 28 May 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

So you're saying that the nested quotes were just misleading me?

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Because going back to the two comments (138 and 139) Tennes made it's obvious that his use of "WIFOM" was aimed at Sheltatha Lore, not Karosis.

I would hardly say I'm being obtuse. Post 138 appeared to me to be referring to Karosis' quote which was the last one in the nest. Post 139 also appears to be directed at the Karosis quote at the bottom of that nest. I asked Tennes to clarify because a thread that is unclear is a thread where scum can hide.

I will clarify below...

Tennes, on 28 May 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Okay, I'm here for realz now. So it looks like we have two scum to begin with, but scum are more like a cult than killers. Depending on how their recruiting mechanic works (and how good/bad our lynching is), the scum team could grow quickly.

I think their recruiting mechanic would be once a night. Because they don't have the traditional NK of scum, they should have something that removes one town every night so that they won't be too weak and this game won't take forever.
Of course that would be OP if used against a normal town, so we have some town roles...
I mean other alternatives are not really acceptable are they? if the recruit action was once every two nights then the scum team would have been the weaker team during night and that is just silly.

How do you know they do not have a night kill? Is this a slip up? There are two scum members according to the OP, we know one is a recruiter but how do we know the other one does not have a night kill?

This looks like a slip to me. OP doesn't say anything about the Timelords being killers, only recruiters.

I think Sheltatha's comment in red was a slip. There was no mention of Timelords being killers in the OP, so that looks like he has some knowledge that the rest of us don't.

Tennes, on 28 May 2013 - 05:31 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

I think the guys that have modded know more about mechanics but it shouldn't hurt those of us that haven't through discussion. If the consensus is no kills then fair enough but there could be some other dope like me wondering the same thing. I thought I caught Shelly out in a lie.

You know what is scummy here?
If there is a NK (which I'm pretty sure won't happen) you will say that I lied so I'm scum.
If there isn't a NK then you will say that I have knowledge not available to the thread so I'm scum.

Basically, you are trying to frame me in here and that means you are scum.

This is highly defensive and a really odd post. I said I thought I caught you in a lie. You refute that claim which is well and good. Now you go on the defensive. I am a bit baffled by your behaviour.

I agree. Looks like a bunch of WIFOM.

The comments in red from Shelly are his WIFOM where he whines that he is now going to be called scum regardless of what happens.

It wouldn't be the first time that someone slips and drops info about their own role that ends up damning them. At the moment it's the best day 1 case that I've seen. I'll drop my vote here unless I see a better option before I go to bed.

Why thank you for clarifying your position in a level headed and concise manner. See Eloth, this is why I like to ask people questions. You usually get these nice things called answers which help you to formulate opinions. Sometimes you even get slip ups which are convenient ways of identifying scum. Maybe next time you want to make unnecessarily harsh statements you'll remember that it is only through promoting discussion that we identify scum.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 13 hours and 42 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
2 Votes for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose, Tennes )
1 Vote for Kessobahn (Ay Estos)

Players not voted: Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tulas Shorn  

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 28 May 2013 - 10:58 PM