[Tulas Shorn]

So time has been moved forward, only one hour I think? One of the TLs just testing out their ability I guess - I do hope they use it more than the TLs in the previous game managed, it almost wasn't even a thing in that game.

[Karosis]

Aranatha, on 28 May 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

The two members of Lord August's court who were recruited by King Sunday at the end of Timelords 1 will form the paired Rebel Scum Team, looking to overthrow King Sunday. Sir January is the scum Timelord, and Lady November is recruiting to the Rebel cause. Anyone who is recruited will be told that they have been recruited, and the alt name of the person who recruited them.

Are you a retard or what?
We all act like we don't read the OP but you should actually read it.
Scum timelord = can move time
Scum recruiter = can recruit
It's as simple as that.

Scum timelord sounds like he could kill though, I just think you want us all to think otherwise. Obviously we'll find out if there are no kills but we don't know for sure yet do we?

Once again, the TL has been named before. There's a town vig as well.
If you do the maths, with 1 recruitment and 1 lynch and 15 players of which scum makes up 2, scum wins at ...drumroll... end of day 5 if we don't manage to lynch scum.

start day 1: 2 scum, 15 players.
start day 2: 3 scum, 14 players.
start day 3: 4 scum, 13 players.
start day 4: 5 scum, 12 players.
start day 5: 6 scum, 11 players.


Do you honestly think scum will get a kill in that scenario?

When you put it that way no.



You do not factor in that town have 4 powerful roles. Possibly in which some are unrecruitable.

[Kessobahn]

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

I prefer to think of myself as an asshole not a retard. Taunting the mod is never a good thing unless you like posting in pictures.

V

Of course there is always the retarded asshole...

[Sheltatha Lore]

Kessobahn, on 28 May 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

I prefer to think of myself as an asshole not a retard. Taunting the mod is never a good thing unless you like posting in pictures.

V

Of course there is always the retarded asshole...

I want to kiss you.

[Path-Shaper]

Kessobahn, on 28 May 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 28 May 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

I prefer to think of myself as an asshole not a retard. Taunting the mod is never a good thing unless you like posting in pictures.

V

Of course there is always the retarded asshole...

Speaking of Mental, I haven't seen him in a while.

V

[Nimander Golit]

I'm back! You'll all be pleased to know that I found a big investor for my mint chocolate licorice business. Be on the lookout for Heavenly Cords™ to hit the market Q2 next year. And now I shall go and catch up.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

I'm back! You'll all be pleased to know that I found a big investor for my mint chocolate licorice business. Be on the lookout for Heavenly Cords™ to hit the market Q2 next year. And now I shall go and catch up.

Dude you are soooooooo funny!

[Fener]

I don't think we can make the assumption that scum can't kill. it's dangerous to say the least.

Thinking WCS, we'll have a killer and a recruit. Should we expect any symps? the "minor major houses" would suggest such a possibility.

[Tulas Shorn]

Fener, on 28 May 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

I don't think we can make the assumption that scum can't kill. it's dangerous to say the least.

Thinking WCS, we'll have a killer and a recruit. Should we expect any symps? the "minor major houses" would suggest such a possibility.

Is this fucking serious?


EDIT: The OP states two scum to begin with. Any recruits would automatically become 'symps' of a sort, of course. The OP suggests that recruits will know the alt of their recruiter, but not the alt of their new timelord.


EDIT 2: But..seriously? I almost can't believe that was a genuine question.

This post has been edited by Tulas Shorn: 28 May 2013 - 04:46 PM

[Sheltatha Lore]

Tulas Shorn, on 28 May 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

Fener, on 28 May 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

I don't think we can make the assumption that scum can't kill. it's dangerous to say the least.

Thinking WCS, we'll have a killer and a recruit. Should we expect any symps? the "minor major houses" would suggest such a possibility.

Is this fucking serious?

I think so.

[Karosis]

I think the guys that have modded know more about mechanics but it shouldn't hurt those of us that haven't through discussion. If the consensus is no kills then fair enough but there could be some other dope like me wondering the same thing. I thought I caught Shelly out in a lie.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

I think the guys that have modded know more about mechanics but it shouldn't hurt those of us that haven't through discussion. If the consensus is no kills then fair enough but there could be some other dope like me wondering the same thing. I thought I caught Shelly out in a lie.

You know what is scummy here?
If there is a NK (which I'm pretty sure won't happen) you will say that I lied so I'm scum.
If there isn't a NK then you will say that I have knowledge not available to the thread so I'm scum.

Basically, you are trying to frame me in here and that means you are scum.

[Karosis]

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

I think the guys that have modded know more about mechanics but it shouldn't hurt those of us that haven't through discussion. If the consensus is no kills then fair enough but there could be some other dope like me wondering the same thing. I thought I caught Shelly out in a lie.

You know what is scummy here?
If there is a NK (which I'm pretty sure won't happen) you will say that I lied so I'm scum.
If there isn't a NK then you will say that I have knowledge not available to the thread so I'm scum.

Basically, you are trying to frame me in here and that means you are scum.

This is highly defensive and a really odd post. I said I thought I caught you in a lie. You refute that claim which is well and good. Now you go on the defensive. I am a bit baffled by your behaviour.

[Nimander Golit]

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

I'm back! You'll all be pleased to know that I found a big investor for my mint chocolate licorice business. Be on the lookout for Heavenly Cords™ to hit the market Q2 next year. And now I shall go and catch up.

Dude you are soooooooo funny!

I know

So if I'm reading correctly we have 5 pages of discussion over the Timelord role which we shouldn't even need since we've trod this ground before, and a burgeoning pissing match between SL and Kar. Am I up to date or did I miss something?

Personally I'm interested in what the 4th town role could be. Healer or finder seems most likely to me.

[Aranatha]

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 28 May 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:13 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 25 May 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

The two members of Lord August's court who were recruited by King Sunday at the end of Timelords 1 will form the paired Rebel Scum Team, looking to overthrow King Sunday. Sir January is the scum Timelord, and Lady November is recruiting to the Rebel cause. Anyone who is recruited will be told that they have been recruited, and the alt name of the person who recruited them.

Are you a retard or what?
We all act like we don't read the OP but you should actually read it.
Scum timelord = can move time
Scum recruiter = can recruit
It's as simple as that.

Scum timelord sounds like he could kill though, I just think you want us all to think otherwise. Obviously we'll find out if there are no kills but we don't know for sure yet do we?

Once again, the TL has been named before. There's a town vig as well.
If you do the maths, with 1 recruitment and 1 lynch and 15 players of which scum makes up 2, scum wins at ...drumroll... end of day 5 if we don't manage to lynch scum.

start day 1: 2 scum, 15 players.
start day 2: 3 scum, 14 players.
start day 3: 4 scum, 13 players.
start day 4: 5 scum, 12 players.
start day 5: 6 scum, 11 players.


Do you honestly think scum will get a kill in that scenario?

When you put it that way no.



You do not factor in that town have 4 powerful roles. Possibly in which some are unrecruitable.

Maybe. It makes sense for the TL to be unrecruitable, at the very least.
It also doesn't discount the vig vigging town, missed lynches, or the lynching of scum - but ultimately, this is the WCS that I keep in mind - the vig won't make a difference in that, either.

[Aranatha]

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

I'm back! You'll all be pleased to know that I found a big investor for my mint chocolate licorice business. Be on the lookout for Heavenly Cords™ to hit the market Q2 next year. And now I shall go and catch up.

Dude you are soooooooo funny!

I know

So if I'm reading correctly we have 5 pages of discussion over the Timelord role which we shouldn't even need since we've trod this ground before, and a burgeoning pissing match between SL and Kar. Am I up to date or did I miss something?

Personally I'm interested in what the 4th town role could be. Healer or finder seems most likely to me.

Healer makes no sense, unless scum has a kill. Otherwise, it is just there to neutralize the vig in case he gets recruited, and what are the odds that the healer then picks the right guy to heal at the right night?
Finder is perhaps a tiny bit OP as town has a both a vig + a guard, both of whom team excellently with a finder. I wouldn't count on it.

[Nimander Golit]

Aranatha, on 28 May 2013 - 05:11 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

I'm back! You'll all be pleased to know that I found a big investor for my mint chocolate licorice business. Be on the lookout for Heavenly Cords™ to hit the market Q2 next year. And now I shall go and catch up.

Dude you are soooooooo funny!

I know

So if I'm reading correctly we have 5 pages of discussion over the Timelord role which we shouldn't even need since we've trod this ground before, and a burgeoning pissing match between SL and Kar. Am I up to date or did I miss something?

Personally I'm interested in what the 4th town role could be. Healer or finder seems most likely to me.

Healer makes no sense, unless scum has a kill. Otherwise, it is just there to neutralize the vig in case he gets recruited, and what are the odds that the healer then picks the right guy to heal at the right night?
Finder is perhaps a tiny bit OP as town has a both a vig + a guard, both of whom team excellently with a finder. I wouldn't count on it.

Good point about the healer. I take it you assume the High Court have off thread comms?

[Tennes]

Karosis said:

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Sheltatha Lore said:

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Tulas Shorn said:

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Okay, I'm here for realz now. So it looks like we have two scum to begin with, but scum are more like a cult than killers. Depending on how their recruiting mechanic works (and how good/bad our lynching is), the scum team could grow quickly.

I think their recruiting mechanic would be once a night. Because they don't have the traditional NK of scum, they should have something that removes one town every night so that they won't be too weak and this game won't take forever.
Of course that would be OP if used against a normal town, so we have some town roles...
I mean other alternatives are not really acceptable are they? if the recruit action was once every two nights then the scum team would have been the weaker team during night and that is just silly.

How do you know they do not have a night kill? Is this a slip up? There are two scum members according to the OP, we know one is a recruiter but how do we know the other one does not have a night kill?

This looks like a slip to me. OP doesn't say anything about the Timelords being killers, only recruiters.

[Tennes]

Karosis said:

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Sheltatha Lore said:

1369759857[/url]' post='1058095']

Karosis said:

1369759570[/url]' post='1058094']
I think the guys that have modded know more about mechanics but it shouldn't hurt those of us that haven't through discussion. If the consensus is no kills then fair enough but there could be some other dope like me wondering the same thing. I thought I caught Shelly out in a lie.

You know what is scummy here?
If there is a NK (which I'm pretty sure won't happen) you will say that I lied so I'm scum.
If there isn't a NK then you will say that I have knowledge not available to the thread so I'm scum.

Basically, you are trying to frame me in here and that means you are scum.

This is highly defensive and a really odd post. I said I thought I caught you in a lie. You refute that claim which is well and good. Now you go on the defensive. I am a bit baffled by your behaviour.

I agree. Looks like a bunch of WIFOM.

[Fener]

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

I'm back! You'll all be pleased to know that I found a big investor for my mint chocolate licorice business. Be on the lookout for Heavenly Cords™ to hit the market Q2 next year. And now I shall go and catch up.

Dude you are soooooooo funny!

I know

So if I'm reading correctly we have 5 pages of discussion over the Timelord role which we shouldn't even need since we've trod this ground before, and a burgeoning pissing match between SL and Kar. Am I up to date or did I miss something?

Personally I'm interested in what the 4th town role could be. Healer or finder seems most likely to me.

you'd think people'd learn by now that speculating about town roles only helps scum, but nooo....