[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 20 hours and 6 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

[Eloth]

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

Barghast, Sorrit and Ay Estos.


Ay Estos has one vote already.



Vote Barghast

Vote Sorrit

[Sheltatha Lore]

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

I think the guys that have modded know more about mechanics but it shouldn't hurt those of us that haven't through discussion. If the consensus is no kills then fair enough but there could be some other dope like me wondering the same thing. I thought I caught Shelly out in a lie.

You know what is scummy here?
If there is a NK (which I'm pretty sure won't happen) you will say that I lied so I'm scum.
If there isn't a NK then you will say that I have knowledge not available to the thread so I'm scum.

Basically, you are trying to frame me in here and that means you are scum.

This is highly defensive and a really odd post. I said I thought I caught you in a lie. You refute that claim which is well and good. Now you go on the defensive. I am a bit baffled by your behaviour.

No, this is not defensive. I'm calling you scummy so that hopefully we will lynch you today and trying to stop you from using the said tactic against me in coming days.
tbh, I think you are either scum trying to create an easy lynch target for coming days or scum who slipped.
So, I believe our best lynch target to be you atm and am not going to change my vote unless something better comes up.

with that, I'm going to leave.

[Fener]

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

I think the guys that have modded know more about mechanics but it shouldn't hurt those of us that haven't through discussion. If the consensus is no kills then fair enough but there could be some other dope like me wondering the same thing. I thought I caught Shelly out in a lie.

You know what is scummy here?
If there is a NK (which I'm pretty sure won't happen) you will say that I lied so I'm scum.
If there isn't a NK then you will say that I have knowledge not available to the thread so I'm scum.

Basically, you are trying to frame me in here and that means you are scum.

This is highly defensive and a really odd post. I said I thought I caught you in a lie. You refute that claim which is well and good. Now you go on the defensive. I am a bit baffled by your behaviour.

No, this is not defensive. I'm calling you scummy so that hopefully we will lynch you today and trying to stop you from using the said tactic against me in coming days.
tbh, I think you are either scum trying to create an easy lynch target for coming days or scum who slipped.
So, I believe our best lynch target to be you atm and am not going to change my vote unless something better comes up.

with that, I'm going to leave.

pre-emptively defensive shelly is defensive.

[Eloth]

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Karosis, on 28 May 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

I think the guys that have modded know more about mechanics but it shouldn't hurt those of us that haven't through discussion. If the consensus is no kills then fair enough but there could be some other dope like me wondering the same thing. I thought I caught Shelly out in a lie.

You know what is scummy here?
If there is a NK (which I'm pretty sure won't happen) you will say that I lied so I'm scum.
If there isn't a NK then you will say that I have knowledge not available to the thread so I'm scum.

Basically, you are trying to frame me in here and that means you are scum.

This is highly defensive and a really odd post. I said I thought I caught you in a lie. You refute that claim which is well and good. Now you go on the defensive. I am a bit baffled by your behaviour.

No, this is not defensive. I'm calling you scummy so that hopefully we will lynch you today and trying to stop you from using the said tactic against me in coming days.
tbh, I think you are either scum trying to create an easy lynch target for coming days or scum who slipped.
So, I believe our best lynch target to be you atm and am not going to change my vote unless something better comes up.

with that, I'm going to leave.

But will you stay gone? I'd say you're only 2 or 3 votes shy of an emo self-vote.

[Kessobahn]

I have the feeling we have the classic case of 2 vocal townies barking at each other in day 1 antics. Somewhat expected after the poor showing last game, but faction games are a different beast all together from M&P. Good to see more participation though.

If I had to pick a side here I would lean towards Shelly being the scum as he did sound pretty defensive in that post. The matter seemed to be dropped and he comes back with that post.

Really though, probably 2 town members going at it.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 19 hours and 29 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Sorrit ( Eloth )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Barghast, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

[Nimander Golit]

So far I have to say the strangest thing I've noticed has been this from Tennes. In the first quote he calls out Karosis for what he considers a slip

Tennes, on 28 May 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

Karosis said:

1369757433[/url]' post='1058044']

Sheltatha Lore said:

1369756516[/url]' post='1058036']

Tulas Shorn said:

1369753403[/url]' post='1058023']
Okay, I'm here for realz now. So it looks like we have two scum to begin with, but scum are more like a cult than killers. Depending on how their recruiting mechanic works (and how good/bad our lynching is), the scum team could grow quickly.

I think their recruiting mechanic would be once a night. Because they don't have the traditional NK of scum, they should have something that removes one town every night so that they won't be too weak and this game won't take forever.
Of course that would be OP if used against a normal town, so we have some town roles...
I mean other alternatives are not really acceptable are they? if the recruit action was once every two nights then the scum team would have been the weaker team during night and that is just silly.

How do you know they do not have a night kill? Is this a slip up? There are two scum members according to the OP, we know one is a recruiter but how do we know the other one does not have a night kill?

This looks like a slip to me. OP doesn't say anything about the Timelords being killers, only recruiters.

And then in the very next post in the thread he instantly flip flops to writing off the entire SL Karosis argument as WIFOM.

Tennes, on 28 May 2013 - 05:31 PM, said:

Karosis said:

1369760609[/url]' post='1058097']

Sheltatha Lore said:

1369759857[/url]' post='1058095']

Karosis said:

1369759570[/url]' post='1058094']
I think the guys that have modded know more about mechanics but it shouldn't hurt those of us that haven't through discussion. If the consensus is no kills then fair enough but there could be some other dope like me wondering the same thing. I thought I caught Shelly out in a lie.

You know what is scummy here?
If there is a NK (which I'm pretty sure won't happen) you will say that I lied so I'm scum.
If there isn't a NK then you will say that I have knowledge not available to the thread so I'm scum.

Basically, you are trying to frame me in here and that means you are scum.

This is highly defensive and a really odd post. I said I thought I caught you in a lie. You refute that claim which is well and good. Now you go on the defensive. I am a bit baffled by your behaviour.

I agree. Looks like a bunch of WIFOM.

And so I ask Tennes, why the sudden change of heart?

[Nimander Golit]

I'll be in and out for the next couple hours, gonna do some spring cleaning.

[Tennes]

Nimander Golit said:

1369764786[/url]' post='1058127']
So far I have to say the strangest thing I've noticed has been this from Tennes. In the first quote he calls out Karosis for what he considers a slip

Tennes said:

1369761842[/url]' post='1058109']

Karosis said:

1369757433[/url]' post='1058044']

Sheltatha Lore said:

1369756516[/url]' post='1058036']

Tulas Shorn said:

1369753403[/url]' post='1058023']
Okay, I'm here for realz now. So it looks like we have two scum to begin with, but scum are more like a cult than killers. Depending on how their recruiting mechanic works (and how good/bad our lynching is), the scum team could grow quickly.

I think their recruiting mechanic would be once a night. Because they don't have the traditional NK of scum, they should have something that removes one town every night so that they won't be too weak and this game won't take forever.
Of course that would be OP if used against a normal town, so we have some town roles...
I mean other alternatives are not really acceptable are they? if the recruit action was once every two nights then the scum team would have been the weaker team during night and that is just silly.

How do you know they do not have a night kill? Is this a slip up? There are two scum members according to the OP, we know one is a recruiter but how do we know the other one does not have a night kill?

This looks like a slip to me. OP doesn't say anything about the Timelords being killers, only recruiters.

And then in the very next post in the thread he instantly flip flops to writing off the entire SL Karosis argument as WIFOM.

Tennes said:

1369762280[/url]' post='1058111']

Karosis said:

1369760609[/url]' post='1058097']

Sheltatha Lore said:

1369759857[/url]' post='1058095']

Karosis said:

1369759570[/url]' post='1058094']
I think the guys that have modded know more about mechanics but it shouldn't hurt those of us that haven't through discussion. If the consensus is no kills then fair enough but there could be some other dope like me wondering the same thing. I thought I caught Shelly out in a lie.

You know what is scummy here?
If there is a NK (which I'm pretty sure won't happen) you will say that I lied so I'm scum.
If there isn't a NK then you will say that I have knowledge not available to the thread so I'm scum.

Basically, you are trying to frame me in here and that means you are scum.

This is highly defensive and a really odd post. I said I thought I caught you in a lie. You refute that claim which is well and good. Now you go on the defensive. I am a bit baffled by your behaviour.

I agree. Looks like a bunch of WIFOM.

And so I ask Tennes, why the sudden change of heart?

I haven't changed. I think Shelly is creating WIFOM with all his Ifs and If Nots.

[Tennes]

Tennes said:

1369768644[/url]' post='1058137']

Nimander Golit said:

1369764786[/url]' post='1058127']
So far I have to say the strangest thing I've noticed has been this from Tennes. In the first quote he calls out Karosis for what he considers a slip

Tennes said:

1369761842[/url]' post='1058109']

Karosis said:

1369757433[/url]' post='1058044']

Sheltatha Lore said:

1369756516[/url]' post='1058036']

Tulas Shorn said:

1369753403[/url]' post='1058023']
Okay, I'm here for realz now. So it looks like we have two scum to begin with, but scum are more like a cult than killers. Depending on how their recruiting mechanic works (and how good/bad our lynching is), the scum team could grow quickly.

I think their recruiting mechanic would be once a night. Because they don't have the traditional NK of scum, they should have something that removes one town every night so that they won't be too weak and this game won't take forever.
Of course that would be OP if used against a normal town, so we have some town roles...
I mean other alternatives are not really acceptable are they? if the recruit action was once every two nights then the scum team would have been the weaker team during night and that is just silly.

How do you know they do not have a night kill? Is this a slip up? There are two scum members according to the OP, we know one is a recruiter but how do we know the other one does not have a night kill?

This looks like a slip to me. OP doesn't say anything about the Timelords being killers, only recruiters.

And then in the very next post in the thread he instantly flip flops to writing off the entire SL Karosis argument as WIFOM.

Tennes said:

1369762280[/url]' post='1058111']

Karosis said:

1369760609[/url]' post='1058097']

Sheltatha Lore said:

1369759857[/url]' post='1058095']

Karosis said:

1369759570[/url]' post='1058094']
I think the guys that have modded know more about mechanics but it shouldn't hurt those of us that haven't through discussion. If the consensus is no kills then fair enough but there could be some other dope like me wondering the same thing. I thought I caught Shelly out in a lie.

You know what is scummy here?
If there is a NK (which I'm pretty sure won't happen) you will say that I lied so I'm scum.
If there isn't a NK then you will say that I have knowledge not available to the thread so I'm scum.

Basically, you are trying to frame me in here and that means you are scum.

This is highly defensive and a really odd post. I said I thought I caught you in a lie. You refute that claim which is well and good. Now you go on the defensive. I am a bit baffled by your behaviour.

I agree. Looks like a bunch of WIFOM.

And so I ask Tennes, why the sudden change of heart?

I haven't changed. I think Shelly is creating WIFOM with all his Ifs and If Nots.

Aaaand I think Shelly slipped. He brought up Timelords NKing first.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 18 hours and 8 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Sorrit ( Eloth )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Barghast, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

[Nimander Golit]

Tennes, on 28 May 2013 - 07:20 PM, said:

Tennes said:

1369768644[/url]' post='1058137']

Nimander Golit said:

1369764786[/url]' post='1058127']
So far I have to say the strangest thing I've noticed has been this from Tennes. In the first quote he calls out Karosis for what he considers a slip

Tennes said:

1369761842[/url]' post='1058109']

Karosis said:

1369757433[/url]' post='1058044']

Sheltatha Lore said:

1369756516[/url]' post='1058036']

Tulas Shorn said:

1369753403[/url]' post='1058023']
Okay, I'm here for realz now. So it looks like we have two scum to begin with, but scum are more like a cult than killers. Depending on how their recruiting mechanic works (and how good/bad our lynching is), the scum team could grow quickly.

I think their recruiting mechanic would be once a night. Because they don't have the traditional NK of scum, they should have something that removes one town every night so that they won't be too weak and this game won't take forever.
Of course that would be OP if used against a normal town, so we have some town roles...
I mean other alternatives are not really acceptable are they? if the recruit action was once every two nights then the scum team would have been the weaker team during night and that is just silly.

How do you know they do not have a night kill? Is this a slip up? There are two scum members according to the OP, we know one is a recruiter but how do we know the other one does not have a night kill?

This looks like a slip to me. OP doesn't say anything about the Timelords being killers, only recruiters.

And then in the very next post in the thread he instantly flip flops to writing off the entire SL Karosis argument as WIFOM.

Tennes said:

1369762280[/url]' post='1058111']

Karosis said:

1369760609[/url]' post='1058097']

Sheltatha Lore said:

1369759857[/url]' post='1058095']

Karosis said:

1369759570[/url]' post='1058094']
I think the guys that have modded know more about mechanics but it shouldn't hurt those of us that haven't through discussion. If the consensus is no kills then fair enough but there could be some other dope like me wondering the same thing. I thought I caught Shelly out in a lie.

You know what is scummy here?
If there is a NK (which I'm pretty sure won't happen) you will say that I lied so I'm scum.
If there isn't a NK then you will say that I have knowledge not available to the thread so I'm scum.

Basically, you are trying to frame me in here and that means you are scum.

This is highly defensive and a really odd post. I said I thought I caught you in a lie. You refute that claim which is well and good. Now you go on the defensive. I am a bit baffled by your behaviour.

I agree. Looks like a bunch of WIFOM.

And so I ask Tennes, why the sudden change of heart?

I haven't changed. I think Shelly is creating WIFOM with all his Ifs and If Nots.

Aaaand I think Shelly slipped. He brought up Timelords NKing first.

So you're saying that the nested quotes were just misleading me?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 16 hours and 57 minutes remaining
15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Sorrit ( Eloth )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Barghast, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 28 May 2013 - 08:42 PM
Reason for edit: Suck it. That is why

[Sorrit]

Tennes, on 28 May 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

Aranatha said:

1369742983[/url]' post='1057941']

Sheltatha Lore said:

1369740539[/url]' post='1057936']

Aranatha said:

1369738459[/url]' post='1057932']I guess. Where the fuck is everyone, anyway?Ay Estos, Barghast, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn still to come on thread.Damned slackers. Vote Ay Estos. I hate double names, anyway. And that goes for you, as well, Shelly. You're one redeeming feature is that you're online.

You are judging them early, they may be sleeping or something.Can you stop using so many commas ?

As long as I am within the forum regulations regarding content and style, I see no point to change my writing style just for your convenience. If I want to type with comma's, I will. I suggest you get used to them: I plan to last some time this game. That being said, I will admit that the apostrophe in You're (..one redeeming feature) was excessive and in fact, both a spelling mistake as well as a grammatical mistake. But that was an apostrophe, not a comma.The past five comma's have been brought to you by Aranatha, commissioner of comma's.

Comma-gate all over again!

Apostrophe gate?

Finally stole a phone with some internetz (thank god for family )!

Why would someone waste the effort moving the clock forward an hour on day 1?

[Eloth]

Nimander Golit, on 28 May 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

So you're saying that the nested quotes were just misleading me?

Are you being deliberately obtuse? Because going back to the two comments (138 and 139) Tennes made it's obvious that his use of "WIFOM" was aimed at Sheltatha Lore, not Karosis.

[Fener]

Sorrit, on 28 May 2013 - 08:49 PM, said:

Tennes, on 28 May 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 28 May 2013 - 12:09 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 11:28 AM, said:

Aranatha, on 28 May 2013 - 10:54 AM, said:

I guess. Where the fuck is everyone, anyway?Ay Estos, Barghast, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn still to come on thread.Damned slackers. Vote Ay Estos. I hate double names, anyway. And that goes for you, as well, Shelly. You're one redeeming feature is that you're online.

You are judging them early, they may be sleeping or something.Can you stop using so many commas ?

As long as I am within the forum regulations regarding content and style, I see no point to change my writing style just for your convenience. If I want to type with comma's, I will. I suggest you get used to them: I plan to last some time this game. That being said, I will admit that the apostrophe in You're (..one redeeming feature) was excessive and in fact, both a spelling mistake as well as a grammatical mistake. But that was an apostrophe, not a comma.The past five comma's have been brought to you by Aranatha, commissioner of comma's.

Comma-gate all over again!

Apostrophe gate?

Finally stole a phone with some internetz (thank god for family )!

Why would someone waste the effort moving the clock forward an hour on day 1?

to settle once and for all the debate on whether a game about Timelords has Timelords with powers to manipulate time?

[Eloth]

Sorrit, on 28 May 2013 - 08:49 PM, said:

Tennes, on 28 May 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

Aranatha, on 28 May 2013 - 12:09 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 28 May 2013 - 11:28 AM, said:

Aranatha, on 28 May 2013 - 10:54 AM, said:

I guess. Where the fuck is everyone, anyway?Ay Estos, Barghast, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn still to come on thread.Damned slackers. Vote Ay Estos. I hate double names, anyway. And that goes for you, as well, Shelly. You're one redeeming feature is that you're online.

You are judging them early, they may be sleeping or something.Can you stop using so many commas ?

As long as I am within the forum regulations regarding content and style, I see no point to change my writing style just for your convenience. If I want to type with comma's, I will. I suggest you get used to them: I plan to last some time this game. That being said, I will admit that the apostrophe in You're (..one redeeming feature) was excessive and in fact, both a spelling mistake as well as a grammatical mistake. But that was an apostrophe, not a comma.The past five comma's have been brought to you by Aranatha, commissioner of comma's.

Comma-gate all over again!

Apostrophe gate?

Finally stole a phone with some internetz (thank god for family )!

Why would someone waste the effort moving the clock forward an hour on day 1?

Playing with a new toy?

Remove Vote

[Path-Shaper]

Time has been moved forward

It is Day 1. 15 hours and 46 minutes remaining

15 Players still alive: Aranatha, Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Karosis, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Omtose, Sheltatha Lore, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

8 votes to lynch, 8 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Ay Estos ( Aranatha )
1 Vote for Barghast ( Karosis )
1 Vote for Karosis ( Sheltatha Lore )
1 Vote for Sheltatha Lore ( Omtose )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Barghast, Eloth, Fener, Gait, Kessobahn, Merrid, Nimander Golit, Sorrit, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 28 May 2013 - 08:59 PM

[Sorrit]

Path-Shaper, on 27 January 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

TimelordYou are ________, the Timelord. The members of your faction are __________________.You have power over time. You have 36 hours of time in your 'stockpile'.To manipulate time, you must submit an action by replying to this Role PM. You must quote a post between Path-Shaper's most recent update and your action submission (Path-Shaper's most recent update may be used) which will be used as the base time, and tell me how many minutes or hours you would like to move time from that post, and whether you would like to move it forward or backward. You must also provide an update to how much time is remaining in your stockpile.When you reverse time: If a lynch has occured and you reverse time to before the lynch occured, the lynch will be reversed, however any votes placed will remain placed unless you move time back to before the vote was placed. If someone has been killed by a vigilante, they are considered to have fallen out of the time stream and cannot be returned to life in this way.When you move time forward: You may move it to end a day before a lynch takes place. When you manipulate time, it will be announced on thread as follows:“________, the Timelord, has moved time forward/backward.”This will be followed with a regular Path-Shaper time and vote update.Once per game, you may have me broadcast a message on thread. You may say absolutely anything you want in this broadcast. It will be broadcast as follows:“________, the Timelord, would like the members of his court to know the following: ______”VigilantesYou are _________, the Vigilante. You are a member of ______, the Timelord's court.Once per game, you may perform a night kill. Anyone who is killed this way is considered to have fallen out of the time stream and cannot be resurrected by a Timelord. If you successfully kill a Timelord, all remaining members of his court will join your Timelord's court. Nights are instant, so please be sure to provide a provisional if you would like to use your ability.GuardsYou are ________, the Guard. You are a member of ______, the Timelord's court.Every day, you may provide a target who will be guarded during the next day cycle. (Nights are instant, so be sure to provide your target during the day). If your target is a Timelord, he will be unable to use his time manipulation abilities during the following day cycle.Roleless InnocentYou are _________, a roleless innocent. You are a member of _______, the Timelord's court.

For everyone's, especially my, reference.

So someone has already given us a d-day timeline, but given the presence of prior roles and time shifting, I imagine that date is far from accurate. Now I did not play last timelords so I was wondering if there were time pissing matches over reversing and reinstating kills?