[Primateus]

Those are really the only twins worth talking about in Marvel at this point in time.

Watching this episode I was thinking an awful lot about how I'd soon like to see a resolution on the whole Gonzales and his powergrab thing. The way I'm seeing it now is that this whole "we're voting about things" is a great big back of dicks scam. Gonzales clearly has an agenda and the only reason he's agreed to the voting thing is because he didn't have any choice in the matter. I'm pretty damn sure that the thing he accuses Coulson of is the same exact thing he'd like to do; arbitrarily making the decisions!

I definitely think that Olmos is delivering the goods and playing his character very well, but Gonzales is a source of conflict, he is NOT a good guy nor is he fighting for the good guys. He has to go.

[Aptorian]

I've been binge watching this show since Sunday. I'm at episode 14 in the first season. I'd heard the show was mediocre but I don't really think I have seen writing this bad since Stargate or maybe that Canadian superhero tv show from the 90s.

The budget goes a long way towards saving the show but Agents of SHIELDs writing is so laughably inconsistent and weak that it makes shows like Smallville and Arrow look like The Wire.

I'd been pretty bad but I think episode 14 is the one that makes me go "fuck it, I am only watching this now out of some misplaced loyalty to the marvel universe."

Spoilers up to episode 14 season 1.

Spoiler

So skye is dying. The go to find the only cure for death they know of. An interesting premise but this is where the show gets dumber than usual:

They breach every protocol there could possibly be by seeking out a super secret facility. They do not seek permission. They do not contact any authorities. They do not even try to get in contact with Fury.

They know it is a trick played by the almost omniscient bad guy. They know that just going to the facility makes it known to this guy. That's an inexcusable breach of national/global security.

They find the place by just simply accessing EVERY SINGLE FILE in SHIELDs database. As though that kind of data is just open and accessible to anyone. They manage to find a paper trail in a matter of minutes that should never have been there in the first place and then it turns out that all the data for some reason forms a topographical map which is just nonsense. This is CSI Miami levels of bizarre enhance/focus/analyze.

Then they go to this place and they don't get blown out of the air or nuked when they enter the facility which is also piss poor writing, considering the importance of the facility.

But here's the kicker. Skye is dying. The idea of an agent dying is something that is unthinkable and makes everyone move heaven and earth. So what do they do? They kill two other Shield agents. They fucking killed the guards. They didn't even try to use the tranquilizers. They killed them and made jokes about it. This is beyond idiotic.

They killed two agents to save another agent. What makes them the arbiters of what lives are meaningful?

I mean, I get that it's prime-time fluff meant to entertain but this show makes the comic book agency SHIELD look laughable. They're supposed to be the best of the best and their team consists of neurotic scientists, an amateur hacker, an ignorant muscle head, a surly asian chick and a leader who constantly ignores orders and handles his team like a fucking kindergarden teacher.

Fuck this show.

And yet I still plan on watching every last episode because, hey, it's Marvel.

This post has been edited by Apt: 29 April 2015 - 04:34 PM

[Jakovasaurus]

Apt, on 29 April 2015 - 04:27 PM, said:

I've been binge watching this show since Sunday. I'm at episode 14 in the first season. I'd heard the show was mediocre but I don't really think I have seen writing this bad since Stargate or maybe that Canadian superhero tv show from the 90s.

The budget goes a long way towards saving the show but Agents of SHIELDs writing is so laughably inconsistent and weak that it makes shows like Smallville and Arrow look like The Wire.

I said the same thing about 3 or 4 episodes in. Saying something along these lines: "who does the writing for the show, a high school creative writing class?", and the Josh Whedon sycophants rallied and jumped all over my comment. I'm glad someone else has gotten out of the echo chamber and sees the show objectively.

Apt, on 29 April 2015 - 04:27 PM, said:

And yet I still plan on watching every last episode because, hey, it's Marvel.

This for me too. It's Marvel, so I watch but am more often dissapointed then pleased with each episode. I will say there are a handful of episodes that are really solid, so you have that to look forward to.

[Aptorian]

Jakovasaurus, on 29 April 2015 - 04:48 PM, said:

Apt, on 29 April 2015 - 04:27 PM, said:

And yet I still plan on watching every last episode because, hey, it's Marvel.

This for me too. It's Marvel, so I watch but am more often dissapointed then pleased with each episode. I will say there are a handful of episodes that are really solid, so you have that to look forward to.

Definitely. I just finished episode 15 right after and while rather predictable the episode featured two Asgardians punching people across rooms and saying awesome shit. I enjoyed every moment about that despite the silly writing.

[Gnaw]

Primateus, on 29 April 2015 - 01:11 PM, said:

Those are really the only twins worth talking about in Marvel at this point in time.

Watching this episode I was thinking an awful lot about how I'd soon like to see a resolution on the whole Gonzales and his powergrab thing. The way I'm seeing it now is that this whole "we're voting about things" is a great big back of dicks scam. Gonzales clearly has an agenda and the only reason he's agreed to the voting thing is because he didn't have any choice in the matter. I'm pretty damn sure that the thing he accuses Coulson of is the same exact thing he'd like to do; arbitrarily making the decisions!

I definitely think that Olmos is delivering the goods and playing his character very well, but Gonzales is a source of conflict, he is NOT a good guy nor is he fighting for the good guys. He has to go.

If it's a simple power play Fury being alive again should put an abrupt stop to it, no?

[Gnaw]

Oh. Just had a thought about the carrier's cargo. Kree obelisks. And Ramirez/Olmos knows what they are for.

[Primateus]

Briar King, on 30 April 2015 - 04:01 AM, said:

I guess the Carrier/possible Helicarrier will take over? Whatever they use next will need air power.

Oh yes, I hope so, that'll be awesome. I love that design of the Helicarrier.

By the by,

I want one!

Spoiler

I know it was hinted that Fury'll come back, but I doubt he'll have any significant role in the show simply because Sam Jackson is an expensive actor.

[Aptorian]

Finished season 1 and began on season 2.

Even though I still think the writing is piss poor in this show I have to admit the last part of the season was quite impressive. The way the show progressed from a monster of the week concept to being a continuing arch of events tying into Captain America 2 was quite amazing. While I never liked what they did with SHIELD in the Captain America film I still think it makes the shows events interesting.

I am curious to see where they go from here but judging by the first episode of season 2, the writing is going to remain weak and illogical.

[Gnaw]

Did you cringe at the grapnel in the ceiling tiles?



Anyone else notice that Skye dropped a dozen or so hydra troopers without batting an eye? I really liked the part where she shot them all in the front including losing surprise by kicking the first one in the knee and doing a jujitsu move to twist him towards her so that she could then shoot him the face. Apparently that's her new definition of being a 'good guy'.

[Primateus]

But they're HYDRA troops, they're totally the bad guys. Shooting them in the face after beating them up is what the good guys do! Totes!

[amphibian]

http://m.hitfix.com/...ing-fight-scene

That Skye goes on a badass rampage scene was done by Kevin Tancharoen, who is basically the next big action movie director in the makings.

[Gnaw]

Briar King, on 06 May 2015 - 03:06 AM, said:

Dammit I can't watch tonight's episode till I see Av 2!

Hmmm. I'm fairly certain you just saw any spoilers that aren't already in the AV2 trailers.

edit: although you should probably spoiler your spoilers.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 06 May 2015 - 03:05 PM

[Primateus]

Huh, so apparently I was wrong. I'm not afraid to admit that.

[Gnaw]

Primateus, on 06 May 2015 - 01:08 PM, said:

Huh, so apparently I was wrong. I'm not afraid to admit that.

Oh they had me believing it as well.

[Whisperzzzzzzz]

Damn. That was interesting. I'm not even sure whether I agree or disagree with what she did.

[LinearPhilosopher]

things never go down peacefully now do they?

[acesn8s]

Did they just load Cal down with serum? Oh-boy!

I kinda think Shield deserves this. Hi, please put all of your information on this registry so we can track you down and persecute you later. Kthanksbye.

[Lycaenion]

Yeah, that quote from Fitz was awesome. BUT

Spoiler

OMG JEMMA!!!!! NOOOOOOO!

This post has been edited by Lycaenion: 14 May 2015 - 08:07 AM

[Primateus]

That was a bloody ass awesome finale! And long too.

Lycaenion, you should probably spoiler that last part of your post.

[LinearPhilosopher]

that finale was phenomenal.

Spoiler

so reina is actually honest for once, whod of thought
jemma came out of nowhere... that was something else
loved how they resolved the cal issue, was a nice touch
so now we know the whole fish oil thing is misleading.
hydra is dead for good
fitzsimmons... idk how i feel about that

This post has been edited by BalrogLord: 14 May 2015 - 10:15 PM