[Galactic Council]

cerveza_fiesta, on 13 October 2013 - 01:31 AM, said:

Shit, forget that last post. Skimmed too fast and didn\t see that you had locked me in.

that was the move you wanted right? Khell only had 1 ship there, so you were able to just fly through.


and go pick your gIV race.

[D'rek]

It seems rather odd to me that Tapper seems to be putting so many actions into attacking Altair and Vega, netting him a grand 5 points. I would've thought there'd be a way to use all those build, upgrade and move actions to get ships in more hexes in the mostly-undefended Twelve/CF/Khell homeworld areas. Nor does it seem possible that Tapper can get to the shellworld, so that's not it either.

[Galactic Council]

New boards posted.

[Tapper]

D, on 13 October 2013 - 02:19 AM, said:

It seems rather odd to me that Tapper seems to be putting so many actions into attacking Altair and Vega, netting him a grand 5 points. I would've thought there'd be a way to use all those build, upgrade and move actions to get ships in more hexes in the mostly-undefended Twelve/CF/Khell homeworld areas. Nor does it seem possible that Tapper can get to the shellworld, so that's not it either.

I looked at it, but with so few discs remaining, combat tiles plus one, at most two colonies are a likelier gain than many undefended hexes.

[Tattersail_]

the universe is conspiring against you Drek

[Morgoth]

The technical term is Karma .

[D'rek]

Ganoes Paran, on 13 October 2013 - 08:24 AM, said:

the universe is conspiring against you Drek

As it should be. I wish I could do a few more upgrades, but oh well. I don't think it'll be possible for me to beat Tapper's fleet in Altair or CF's in Pollux, but if we pretend they both move to the shellworld or something, and I somehow managed to win everywhere and only lose Mu Herculis, it still would only get my points to 49, and Twelve has 50 now. So the only factor left in whether Twelve wins or not is the giant battle in the GC (as it should be!) - go get 'im Tatts!

[Gnaw]

mwuhahahaha

Gnaw, on 13 October 2013 - 08:00 PM, said:

Grief, on 13 October 2013 - 05:56 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 13 October 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

I'm in. Worst that can happen is we find that we're not suited to that type of game.

You are volunteering to mod this right?


Altless or no?

• There are 50+ alts so it's not likely to cramp anyone by tying up X number of them.

A SH type thread?

• Would need to be separate from he existing one. The new Board Game subforum would be a good place. It segregates your game from the mafia thread making it less likely that somebody playing in this game and a regular MzE mafia game would post in the wrong one.

"Minimum 10 days"

• Play continues through weekends?
• Lynches do or do not end day?

Alts and SH(and another mod account) are no problem, they can be created if needed.

Altless or no can just be down to the mod.

Play through weekend again depends on mod but I'd assume weekend break since the whole point is to lower the pace, and weekend break is pretty normal in the regular games.

I would also assume lynches end day, the point of the long night is that this shouldn't matter, there's no point continuing day beyond a lynch.

He did say that days had a 'minimum' so not certain what that means.

And, muhahahahahah, you've fallen into my trap:

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Alts and SH(and another mod account) are no problem, they can be created if needed.

A BoardGame (or just Eclipse) subforum would be nice to have. And here you are saying that things like that are "no problem".

[Grief]

Hmm, do you folks actually feel the need for a subforum?

Currently you have fewer dedicated threads than Ultimate Deathmatch, unless I'm missing something.

If you require a spoiler forum for the game to actually work that's a different matter, but I can't see that having the eclipse threads in the games section is causing anyone any form of inconvenience at the moment, and I don't want to unnecessarily segregate the forum into increasingly small areas. My first impression is to tend away from it much for the same reasons that every author doesn't get a separate subforum in the Other Literature section.

[cerveza_fiesta]

Ya, keep the original move. It is back around to me now, right?

If so then provisional move 1 interceptor in b. Sextantis to 55 cancri and 3 interceptors in pollux to shellworld.

Edit: please consider that bold, i am on my phone and cant figure how to do it

This post has been edited by cerveza_fiesta: 13 October 2013 - 09:55 PM

[Gnaw]

Grief, on 13 October 2013 - 09:42 PM, said:

Hmm, do you folks actually feel the need for a subforum?

Currently you have fewer dedicated threads than Ultimate Deathmatch, unless I'm missing something.

If you require a spoiler forum for the game to actually work that's a different matter, but I can't see that having the eclipse threads in the games section is causing anyone any form of inconvenience at the moment, and I don't want to unnecessarily segregate the forum into increasingly small areas. My first impression is to tend away from it much for the same reasons that every author doesn't get a separate subforum in the Other Literature section.

No, not really. It's a "that'd be nice" thing. My rationale is:

• Signup for current big game. This would include picking races etc. Once all that is done, switch to
• Current big game
• Thread for current game Action Orders, Map updates, Round resolutions, Player upkeep posts, etc
• Spoiler type thread. Comments from players to mods, player to player PMs. The GC mod would post them but keep them hidden until the game is over. (I'm fairly certain that the GC alt can do that.) {it occurs to me that this one could be combined with the one above by hiding the comments and unhiding after the game}
• Signup for current smaller game (IH is planning on a smaller, faster game running concurrently with game IV)
• Current smaller game
• Eclipse House rules, rules, explanations. A Tapper's Mafua 101 type thread.

*shrug* I completely understand that it's just a wish list.
And it could very well be counter-productive to the goal of getting more people playing by making it less visible to traffic browsing the games forum.

[Galactic Council]

Round 9
turns 1-4

Spoiler

Turn 1:

Spoiler

• Tapper: Research Sentient Hull, middle track, please.
• Change in VP: +2
• Twelve: Research Nanorobots.
• Change in VP: +1
• CF: RESEARCH artifact key for 12 science. 5 science in bank + 9 money => 6 science + 3 materials => 1 science. + 20 materials please (2x homeworlds, ancient orbital, zeta draconis)
• Khell: RESEARCH Wormhole Generator for 10 Science.
• Change in VP: +1
• GP: Move both dreads into GC
• Morgoth: Research - Positron Computers, trading in Three materials for 1 science.
• Change in VP: +1
• D'rek: DEVelop Artifact Link
• Change in VP: +X (x == 3 at the moment)
• SS: BUILDS 2 cruisers in Chi Draconus. Trade $3 for 1 materials.

VP

• Twelve - 39
• D'rek - 36
• CF - 31
• Khell - 23
• Tapper - 22
• Tatts - 21
• SS - 15
• Morg - 9

Turn 2:

Spoiler

• Tapper: Provisional: I will Build a dread in my home planet after SS's turn.
• Twelve: Provisionally research monoliths Tech mission complete.
• Change in VP: +2
• CF: Build 3 interceptors in Beta Sextantis
• Khell: MOVE Cruiser from Rho Indi to Zeta Herculis.
• GP: Reearch Shell World. Convert 21 money into 7 materials. Place in PSI Capricorni
• Change in VP: +5
• Morgoth: move - Dreadnaught to the abandoned system 202, Formaldaux
• D'rek: MOVe Cruiser from Mu Arae to Pollux
• SS: MOVES both cruisers from chi draconus into former homeworld

VP

• Twelve - 41
• D'rek - 36
• Tatts - 26
• CF - 31
• Khell - 23
• Tapper - 22
• SS - 15
• Morg - 9

Turn 3:

Spoiler

• Tapper: Build 2 fighters in homeworld (1 from mats, other by converting 9 science ).
• Twelve: Build
  • 2 cruisers in Zeta Herculi
  • one monolith in GC
  • Change in VP: +3
• CF: UPGRADE Starbase; missiles over hull & ion cannon
• Khell:

  Khellendros, on 02 October 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:

  

"The Cruisers SS Drowned Rat and SS Whale of a Time, currently stationed in Arcturus, shall MOVE. They shall fly through Pollux, where they shall update the systems from scout to fighter of the SS Fish out of Water, before splitting. The SS Drowned Rat shall carry on to Vega, to meet their main force of the Hegemon scum, while the SS Whale of a Time shall go to Psi Capricorni. Let us realise the fears of the Hegemon, and they shall know they have only themselves to blame for their impending doom!


• GP: influence remove disc from psi capricorni return 1 econ cube and 1 mat cube - income is now: $10, 0 sci, 2 mats
• Change in VP: -6
• Morgoth: influence to place a disc in 202
• Change in VP: +1
• D'rek: build a Starbase in Rigel and a Cruiser in Mu Arae. trade 4 science for 1 materials
• SS: BUILD an interceptor in chi Draconus. Flip colony ship cards for 3 materials

VP

• Twelve - 44
• D'rek - 36
• CF - 31
• Khell - 23
• Tapper - 22
• Tatts - 20
• SS - 15
• Morg - 10

Turn 4:

Spoiler

• Tapper: Move 1 cruiser and 1 fighter from homeplanet to Beta Sextansis (CF's lower bottom right wormhole world).
• Twelve: Build 2 cruisers in Zeta Hurculis 1 monolith in Zeta Hurculis (17$, 0S, 9M Upkeep -5)
• Change in VP: +3
• CF: Build Starbase in Beta Sextantis and one in 55 Cancri.
• Khell: MOVE Interceptor from Arcturus to Mu Herculis.
• GP: Build two interceptors in Aldebran. flipping all 3 colony ships
• Morgoth: move - Dreadnaught into hex 103
• D'rek: Move Cruiser in Mu Arae to Vega. Move Dreadnaught in Vega to Altair.
• SS: UPGRADE interceptor with improved hull over ion turret and upgrade cruiser improved hull over computer
• VP

• Twelve - 47
• D'rek - 36
• CF - 31
• Khell - 23
• Tapper - 22
• Tatts - 20
• SS - 15
• Morg - 10

Turn 5:

Spoiler

• Tapper: Upgrade 2x Hull to Sentient Hull on the Hull components of the Dreadnought blueprint.
• Twelve: Upgrade Interceptor and cruiser with tachyon drive over nuclear drive. (17$, 0s, 9m)
• CF: Move 2 interceptors from gamma valorum over to Pollux via the SE wormhole - ie up through Khell's territories. (U = -13. E = 0. S = 0. M = 1)
• Khell: BUILD 1 Cruiser in Arcturus. [0, 1, 2]
• GP: Move 2 interceptors to 001
• Morgoth: Upgrade Dreadnaught - Remove gauss shield, add positron computer ( $ -4 + 8, m-1, S-0)
• D'rek: Upgrade
  • replace a cruiser plasma cannon with a gluon computer,
  • the dreadnought electron computer to gluon computer and remove one dreadnought plasma cannon.
  • colonize the two money slots in Mu Arae
• SS: MOVES interceptor from chi Draconus to 55 homeworld and cruiser from pulsar system into gamma Valorum.
• VP
  • Twelve - 50
  • D'rek - 36
  • CF - 31
  • Khell - 23
  • Tapper - 22
  • Tatts - 20
  • SS - 15
  • Morg - 10

Turn 6

Spoiler

• Tapper: Move Activation 2 dreads and 4 interceptors to Zeta Chameleontis (lower left wormhole).
• Twelve: Build 3 Interceptors in the Galactic Center (17$, 0S, 0M, -10 Upkeep)
• CF: Move 2 interceptors from Beta Sextantis to Pollux. (upkeep -17 Money Bank 0 Money production = 21 Science = 0 Materials = 1)

Khell: MOVE Cruiser SS Revenge is a Dish Best Served Soggy from Arcturus to Epsilon Eridani.

GP: Provisional Move two interceptors into GC

Morgoth: Pass

D'rek: Pass

SS: Pass

VP

• Twelve - 47
• D'rek - 36
• CF - 31
• Khell - 23
• Tapper - 22
• Tatts - 20
• SS - 15
• Morg - 10

Turn 7

• Tapper: Move 2 dreads and 2 fighters to 311.
• Twelve: research ancient monument 13 {:content:}nbsp; 4$,0s,0m upkeep-13 I think
• Change in VP: +3
• CF: Move 1 interceptor in b. Sextantis to 55 cancri and 3 interceptors in pollux to shellworld.
• Khell:
• GP: Provisional Move 2 cruisers into GC
• Morgoth:
• D'rek:
• SS:
• VP
  • Twelve - 50
  • D'rek - 36
  • CF - 31
  • Khell - 23
  • Tapper - 22
  • Tatts - 20
  • SS - 15
  • Morg - 10

[Grief]

Gnaw, on 13 October 2013 - 10:18 PM, said:

Grief, on 13 October 2013 - 09:42 PM, said:

Hmm, do you folks actually feel the need for a subforum?

Currently you have fewer dedicated threads than Ultimate Deathmatch, unless I'm missing something.

If you require a spoiler forum for the game to actually work that's a different matter, but I can't see that having the eclipse threads in the games section is causing anyone any form of inconvenience at the moment, and I don't want to unnecessarily segregate the forum into increasingly small areas. My first impression is to tend away from it much for the same reasons that every author doesn't get a separate subforum in the Other Literature section.

No, not really. It's a "that'd be nice" thing. My rationale is:

• Signup for current big game. This would include picking races etc. Once all that is done, switch to
• Current big game
• Thread for current game Action Orders, Map updates, Round resolutions, Player upkeep posts, etc
• Spoiler type thread. Comments from players to mods, player to player PMs. The GC mod would post them but keep them hidden until the game is over. (I'm fairly certain that the GC alt can do that.) {it occurs to me that this one could be combined with the one above by hiding the comments and unhiding after the game}
• Signup for current smaller game (IH is planning on a smaller, faster game running concurrently with game IV)
• Current smaller game
• Eclipse House rules, rules, explanations. A Tapper's Mafua 101 type thread.

*shrug* I completely understand that it's just a wish list.
And it could very well be counter-productive to the goal of getting more people playing by making it less visible to traffic browsing the games forum.

I'm not really sure on the specifics of the game, so some of that is a bit over my head. What would the benefits of a subforum be over the current system? As far as I can see, you mostly have those threads anyhow.

What are you currently using for spoilers?

If you need a spoiler forum, I'm happy to set that up, since I can see how that would be inconvenient. Separate subforum doesn't seem necessary at this point, if the game does start running multiple threads and taking up a lot of space, it seems it'd be best to deal with that as it arises.

[D'rek]

Grief, on 13 October 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 13 October 2013 - 10:18 PM, said:

Grief, on 13 October 2013 - 09:42 PM, said:

Hmm, do you folks actually feel the need for a subforum?

Currently you have fewer dedicated threads than Ultimate Deathmatch, unless I'm missing something.

If you require a spoiler forum for the game to actually work that's a different matter, but I can't see that having the eclipse threads in the games section is causing anyone any form of inconvenience at the moment, and I don't want to unnecessarily segregate the forum into increasingly small areas. My first impression is to tend away from it much for the same reasons that every author doesn't get a separate subforum in the Other Literature section.

No, not really. It's a "that'd be nice" thing. My rationale is:

• Signup for current big game. This would include picking races etc. Once all that is done, switch to
• Current big game
• Thread for current game Action Orders, Map updates, Round resolutions, Player upkeep posts, etc
• Spoiler type thread. Comments from players to mods, player to player PMs. The GC mod would post them but keep them hidden until the game is over. (I'm fairly certain that the GC alt can do that.) {it occurs to me that this one could be combined with the one above by hiding the comments and unhiding after the game}
• Signup for current smaller game (IH is planning on a smaller, faster game running concurrently with game IV)
• Current smaller game
• Eclipse House rules, rules, explanations. A Tapper's Mafua 101 type thread.

*shrug* I completely understand that it's just a wish list.
And it could very well be counter-productive to the goal of getting more people playing by making it less visible to traffic browsing the games forum.

I'm not really sure on the specifics of the game, so some of that is a bit over my head. What would the benefits of a subforum be over the current system? As far as I can see, you mostly have those threads anyhow.

What are you currently using for spoilers?

If you need a spoiler forum, I'm happy to set that up, since I can see how that would be inconvenient. Separate subforum doesn't seem necessary at this point, if the game does start running multiple threads and taking up a lot of space, it seems it'd be best to deal with that as it arises.

I don't think there is much need for a separate sub-forum. There's generally only one major eclipse thread active at a time that easily stays at the top of page 1 (and/or is easily bookmarked). There's only a handful of people on the forum playing Eclipse, so things like organizing who will run the next game or the eclipse equivalent of Macros complaining about kids on his lawn tend to just come up in the latest game thread itself and don't need to be their own threads, so IMO we don't need a separate sub-forum to keep it all organized.

[Galactic Council]

Grief, on 13 October 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 13 October 2013 - 10:18 PM, said:

• Thread for current game Action Orders, Map updates, Round resolutions, Player upkeep posts, etc
• Spoiler type thread. Comments from players to mods, player to player PMs. The GC mod would post them but keep them hidden until the game is over. (I'm fairly certain that the GC alt can do that.) {it occurs to me that this one could be combined with the one above by hiding the comments and unhiding after the game}

What are you currently using for spoilers?

If you need a spoiler forum, I'm happy to set that up, since I can see how that would be inconvenient. Separate subforum doesn't seem necessary at this point, if the game does start running multiple threads and taking up a lot of space, it seems it'd be best to deal with that as it arises.

Given the idea of hiding posts inside the action thread, we don't even really need a spoiler sub forum. I'll let you know after I play around a bit with that idea. I'm modding the next game so will have plenty of opportunity to test it.

And Twelve is the only one who has even mentioned it. The typical "hahaha, they did what I thought they would" spoiler comment might fade for a game that last 3 or 4 months.

[Grief]

Cool, keep me up to date.

Pretty sure you need to post something before hiding it, though I've never played around with that function much.

[Imperial Historian]

If you wanted a sub-forum all you needed to do was ask

Honestly though I don't really see the need for one.

[Morgoth]

Provisinal - Upgrade - I'm going to trade an improved hull for a +1 computer

I also don't see the need for a subforum. There's enough subforums as it is.

[Tattersail_]

Waiting on Khell, then presumably back round to Tapper if no reactions.

[Tapper]

Move everything in 311 to 223.

If I am not mistaken, this means I lose my diplomatic relations with SS as a result. Remove the cube to the Science track, please.