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#3241 User is offline   cerveza_fiesta 

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:05 PM

@Twelve

According to the rules he chooses at the end of cleanup, which means he gets to see tech first.


" At the end of the Cleanup Phase, he chooses either clockwise or counterclockwise order ..."

EDIT -

Quotation from expansion rules. I think it's pretty clear and no real way to interpret it otherwise.

And tech draw is part of the cleanup phase, so if he gets to choose at the end, then he gets to see the techs.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:08 PM

View Posttwelve, on 28 June 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 28 June 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

I don't understand D'rek's move. Can you remove 4 parts and then add on 2 in one move? And why would you take off two improved hulls and leave the spaces blank? Or is she going to do another upgrade after this?

MOVE interceptor to Beta Hydri. Move Cruiser to the ancient hive.

The Hydrans are coming home!



During the upgrade action you can remove as many ship parts as you like. If you don't add anything back on you are left with the default ship part on your blueprint. In D'reks case she removed two improved hulls on her Dread to reveal a gauss shield and a standard hull. Same I think with her Cruiser. She then added two new ship parts over the default hull ship part. This gives her a shield to negate Morgoth's computers and also gives her computers as well. Morgoth hit rate reduces and D'reks goes up.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:11 PM

View Postcerveza_fiesta, on 28 June 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

@Twelve

According to the rules he chooses at the end of cleanup, which means he gets to see tech first.


" At the end of the Cleanup Phase, he chooses either clockwise or counterclockwise order ..."

EDIT -

Quotation from expansion rules. I think it's pretty clear and no real way to interpret it otherwise.

And tech draw is part of the cleanup phase, so if he gets to choose at the end, then he gets to see the techs.



Ah good to know. Not that it matters a whole lot to Tapper as he is on the other side of the "table" from Tatts so he is basically deciding who he wants to have early dibs on tech Gnaw or Morghy.
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:11 PM

Turn 7
  • Move action
    • Cruiser in Canopus 311 to home system.
    • Interceptor in home system to Vega 204
    • Cruiser in Hex 381 to zeta draconis 301
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:13 PM

Khell, will you accept diplo after the battles are over?
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:18 PM

View PostGnaw, on 28 June 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

Turn 7
  • Move action
    • Cruiser in Canopus 311 to home system.
    • Interceptor in home system to Vega 204
    • Cruiser in Hex 381 to zeta draconis 301
<li>$5, m11, upkeep -25


Sorry this is illegal. Your cruiser can only move one space. If you want it to move three spaces then that is your only move. Interceptor can move one space, all can move one space but you do not have the drive to move them how you want.

edit - thought you were moving the far cruiser to your home world. I miss read that.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:18 PM

View PostGnaw, on 28 June 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

Khell, will you accept diplo after the battles are over?


With the promise that I will evacuate that hex and move back to my side of the warp portal during the next round. Assuming CF allows that to happen.
I have the feeling that he's going to be annoyed with me.
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:19 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 28 June 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 28 June 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

Turn 7
  • Move action
    • Cruiser in Canopus 311 to home system.
    • Interceptor in home system to Vega 204
    • Cruiser in Hex 381 to zeta draconis 301
<li>$5, m11, upkeep -25


Sorry this is illegal. Your cruiser can only move one space. If you want it to move three spaces then that is your only move. Interceptor can move one space, all can move one space but you do not have the drive to move them how you want.

edit - thought you were moving the far cruiser to your home world. I miss read that.


Each of those is a single hex.
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:20 PM

View PostGnaw, on 28 June 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

Turn 7
  • Move action
    • Cruiser in Canopus 311 to home system.
    • Interceptor in home system to Vega 204
    • Cruiser in Hex 381 to zeta draconis 301
<li>$5, m11, upkeep -25



Looks like you aren't leaving without a fight there Gnaw. And nice move on keeping Tatts second Dread out of the fight. I completely missed that one. Are you going to build three starbases and upgraded computers after another influence action so it's three starbases and a cruiser against his dread? You will take losses and without the computer upgrade on the starbases you might even lose. This way you might not even have to use the nova bust at all.

Very well done.
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:24 PM

He will want to move his other cruiser in too.
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:25 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 28 June 2013 - 03:24 PM, said:

He will want to move his other cruiser in too.



Your move there Tatts. You taking another reaction or are you going to wave the white flag and admit your defeat?
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:28 PM

Move interceptor into Vega from Home world.


Move Dread into Gnaw's homeworld via pollux if possible.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:28 PM

Damn you twelve.


nah. 3 star bases does it. 80%
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:30 PM

View Posttwelve, on 28 June 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

View PostGnaw, on 28 June 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

Turn 7
  • Move action
    • Cruiser in Canopus 311 to home system.
    • Interceptor in home system to Vega 204
    • Cruiser in Hex 381 to zeta draconis 301
<li>$5, m11, upkeep -25



Looks like you aren't leaving without a fight there Gnaw. And nice move on keeping Tatts second Dread out of the fight. I completely missed that one. Are you going to build three starbases and upgraded computers after another influence action so it's three starbases and a cruiser against his dread? You will take losses and without the computer upgrade on the starbases you might even lose. This way you might not even have to use the nova bust at all.

Very well done.


What is a Nova Bust? Obviously I am missing something?
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:31 PM

View PostGnaw, on 28 June 2013 - 03:28 PM, said:

Damn you twelve.


nah. 3 star bases does it. 80%



Well it looks like Tatts is going for broke. You might have to take that influence action just to stop him from bringing in his second dread after all.
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:32 PM

View PostGanoes Paran, on 28 June 2013 - 03:28 PM, said:

Move interceptor into Vega from Home world.


I'm sorry Tatts. But you really need to think this move over carefully. I will give you the chance to retreat your dread. I will order all my ships to retreat. Starbases can't move, but they are the same as any other ship; they cannot fire after a retreat order.

I'm sitting at 80% to destroy 1 dread. If you force me to do another influence action I will be bankrupted. But I'll take both dreads with me.
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:33 PM

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What is a Nova Bust? Obviously I am missing something?


Yes. Yes, you did discount something.

And you cannot say I haven't warned you. Begged you practically.
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:34 PM

View PostGnaw, on 28 June 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

View PostGanoes Paran, on 28 June 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:

What is a Nova Bust? Obviously I am missing something?


Yes. Yes, you did discount something.

And you cannot say I haven't warned you. Begged you practically.


Care to share?
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:35 PM

And don't feel bad. I'm fairly certain that only 12 and Tapper saw it. so you weren't alone.
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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:38 PM

You're at -17. Moving the interceptor takes you to -21. moving the dread two spaces takes you to -30

If you don't stop right now we will both be gone after this round. Because I can beat both dreads.
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