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#1 User is offline   ForkassalOfTheInnerCircle 

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:21 PM

G'day, fellow community members. Yesterday, after five months of sickness and general misery, I finally went back to the gym. It's feeling okay right now, although my throat is still a little itchy. Hopefully it will pan out and I can keep going at it.

On to the matter at hand: Since I was kind of bummed out over how much muscle and just overall strength I'd lost (I'm practically back to where I started in December 2011), I figured I'll need something to make it a bit more fun to be back at zero. Therefore, I have decided to do the oh so popular time-lapse thing where I take a picture of myself every day for two years, and then update it every one or two years after that. However, I will not only be taking pictures, but also measurements (every day, if not otherwise specified).

Weight

Time spent in the gym

These two measurements will be incorporated into the time-lapse as graphs, updated on each frame (so that they appear animated). I contemplated doing a calorie graph as well, but seeing as I still live at home and usually do not cook my own supper, it'll be too damn inaccurate for my liking.

Right now I'm doing a 5-split schedule heavily based upon the one generously provided by Assail on the second page of this thread.

I'm doing cardio as well, but I'm not measuring anything at the moment as the tracks I usually run are still frozen solid (ice, ice everywhere!), forcing me to run on asphalt, where I have to take it really easy because of my knees.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 06:26 PM

Don't measure the size of your bicep, thigh, chest.

Measure the sets and reps you are doing.

If you are going to be really into it, keep a food journal and write down everything you imbibe and then look at your daily caloric intake as well.
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Posted 14 February 2013 - 07:02 PM

View PostObdigore, on 14 February 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:

Don't measure the size of your bicep, thigh, chest.

Measure the sets and reps you are doing.

If you are going to be really into it, keep a food journal and write down everything you imbibe and then look at your daily caloric intake as well.

Since it's tied into a photo time-lapse, it makes sense to take measurements of muscle size as I am focused on the visual aspects more than the practical ones. I also forgot to mention that I plan on inputting these measurements as graphs, so I'd have to do a 3D sets/reps/time graph for that to work :/.

EDIT: I forgot bench-press measurement, rectified. Also, this thing is not to help me work out better, it's purely for my own amusement, and I may possibly post it on youtube or the like if I feel like it. I'm already pretty good at the food and working out parts. I don't take exact measurements of caloric intake, but I try to keep it around 3000-3500 calories a day as I want to bulk, not get a surfer body. I had great results last year, increasing about 12 kg in weight (probably around 50/50 muscle and fat) before I got sick, and I plan to do the same routine again (minus the getting sick).

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:53 PM

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 12:00 AM

Don't bother with bench.

Deadlift, Clean, Squat, weighted pull ups (strict, none of that kipping ****)
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 05:06 AM

View PostForkassalOfTheInnerCircle, on 14 February 2013 - 07:02 PM, said:

View PostObdigore, on 14 February 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:

Don't measure the size of your bicep, thigh, chest.

Measure the sets and reps you are doing.

If you are going to be really into it, keep a food journal and write down everything you imbibe and then look at your daily caloric intake as well.

Since it's tied into a photo time-lapse, it makes sense to take measurements of muscle size as I am focused on the visual aspects more than the practical ones. I also forgot to mention that I plan on inputting these measurements as graphs, so I'd have to do a 3D sets/reps/time graph for that to work :/.

EDIT: I forgot bench-press measurement, rectified. Also, this thing is not to help me work out better, it's purely for my own amusement, and I may possibly post it on youtube or the like if I feel like it. I'm already pretty good at the food and working out parts. I don't take exact measurements of caloric intake, but I try to keep it around 3000-3500 calories a day as I want to bulk, not get a surfer body. I had great results last year, increasing about 12 kg in weight (probably around 50/50 muscle and fat) before I got sick, and I plan to do the same routine again (minus the getting sick).


No, that doesn't make sense. You already have photographic evidence of the changes and definition.

You would be better served measuring your max at each exercise and your reps building up and lowering that and tying it to those photos. For instance

(Sunday the second of January)

(Picture)

Bench - 50KGx10, 65KGx5 75KGx1 (Max)
Squat - 100KGX10, 120KGx10 140KGx3 (Max)

And so on and so forth.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 05:17 AM

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Don't bother with bench.

Deadlift, Clean, Squat, weighted pull ups (strict, none of that kipping ****)


I'd throw in some press with that clean, but that's just me.
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Posted 15 February 2013 - 05:08 PM

View PostObdigore, on 15 February 2013 - 05:06 AM, said:

View PostForkassalOfTheInnerCircle, on 14 February 2013 - 07:02 PM, said:

View PostObdigore, on 14 February 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:

Don't measure the size of your bicep, thigh, chest.

Measure the sets and reps you are doing.

If you are going to be really into it, keep a food journal and write down everything you imbibe and then look at your daily caloric intake as well.

Since it's tied into a photo time-lapse, it makes sense to take measurements of muscle size as I am focused on the visual aspects more than the practical ones. I also forgot to mention that I plan on inputting these measurements as graphs, so I'd have to do a 3D sets/reps/time graph for that to work :/.

EDIT: I forgot bench-press measurement, rectified. Also, this thing is not to help me work out better, it's purely for my own amusement, and I may possibly post it on youtube or the like if I feel like it. I'm already pretty good at the food and working out parts. I don't take exact measurements of caloric intake, but I try to keep it around 3000-3500 calories a day as I want to bulk, not get a surfer body. I had great results last year, increasing about 12 kg in weight (probably around 50/50 muscle and fat) before I got sick, and I plan to do the same routine again (minus the getting sick).


No, that doesn't make sense. You already have photographic evidence of the changes and definition.

You would be better served measuring your max at each exercise and your reps building up and lowering that and tying it to those photos. For instance

(Sunday the second of January)

(Picture)

Bench - 50KGx10, 65KGx5 75KGx1 (Max)
Squat - 100KGX10, 120KGx10 140KGx3 (Max)

And so on and so forth.

I don't quite understand how you intend for me to do this. My idea was to make a time-lapse, and put graphs of shit in it. For every frame (I'll have maybe four or five frames per secon), I put in an updated version of each graph. I figured it'd be kind of cool to see the body grow larger and have a graph showing the weight increase, for example. Could you more elaborately explain how I would incorporate Bench and Squat measurements into the video?

View PostCocoreturns, on 15 February 2013 - 12:00 AM, said:

Don't bother with bench.

Deadlift, Clean, Squat, weighted pull ups (strict, none of that kipping ****)

Uhm, none of those exercises are centered on chest... Deadlifts and cleans I may do when I've built up the strength in my knees (again...), but for now I don't trust my body to perform and do squats in a machine with a pretty low weight because it hurts otherwise. I hate knees. Besides, I like bench, it's fun, and my chest looked pretty delicious back in the day.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 12:23 AM

I know they aren't centred on chest.

They're centred on making you significantly stronger, faster.

Since you specifically mentioned a loss of overall strength, I figured you'd want to build that strength back up.
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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:07 AM

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:10 AM

The guy in that pic looks daunted. Dont give up climby guy! You can do it!
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:44 AM

Well right off the bat, I wouldn't worry about measurements at all if you're going to take a serious approach to lifting and nutrition.

You're going to most likely go through a solid bulking phase, where you'll get bigger, most likely retain more water, and eventually go through your cutting phase, where you'll lose all of that and come up on your definition (depending on your nutrition and workouts).

The only measurements I would recommend doing would be before and after measurements if you're really interested in seeing where you've progressed too after your cutting phase. I highly recommend taking monthly photos though!

In regards to your diet, there is no specific diet out there. It's something I've found that is usually tuned to your body, and it takes a serious amount of trial and error to find what works best for you. By all means though, try cookie cutter diets and ideas in regards to bulking and cutting, but just go into it with an open mind and willingness to switch things up to better suit your needs.

When it comes to lifting (And you've already stated it), you're either concerned with overall strength, or aesthetics. With that being said, any lift that is utilizing multiple aspects of your body is a game changer. Deadlifts are largely ignored, but should be incorporated into your workouts as well as squats, cleans, pull ups etc. Kipping pullups have their use (Been doing CrossFit for a couple years now), and I would recommend incorporating both into your workouts. On the same token, since you're going for aesthetics, muscle isolation is going to get you where you want to go, albeit it's going to take time. I know you mentioned your dislike for "knees", and I assure you, those shouldn't be your issue if you're squatting correctly. Multi-movement exercises (Squat, cleans, deadlift etc) are not only fundamental, but your growth is going to be largely based off of those exercises. They open your body up for testosterone production exponentially when you start engaging your arms, your quads, hamstrings, glutes and back at the same time. Seriously, do not skip out of them because you dislike them.

From my experience, it's all nutrition though mate. 80% eating properly, 20% working out correctly. If you can get your diet down, you'll make leaps and bounds as far as progress goes. I've found that a lot of people put a lot of stock into your caloric intake, and from my experience you should only really be worrying about it being too low, depending on your level of activity and your goals. It's more about putting the correct foods into your body. At the end of the day if you're committed to the gym and consistently working out, your metabolism and level of activity is going to be able to handle 3-3500 calories without extreme fat gain. On that note, don't worry about any type of fat gain during your bulking phases, as your body needs it to absorb necessary nutrients vital to muscle production. It can always be dealt with later in your cutting phase.

For interest, and this was on deployment so nutrition wasn't optimal, here are a couple of my progress pictures.

Can't quite remember my specific weights that I was lifting at at the beginning, but they were horrendous.

I came back from deployment flat benching 5x350lbs, squatting 10x525lbs, deadlifting 8x525lbs, 50x dead hang pullups (25x weighted dead hang with 65lbs weight) and overall my strength had increased exponentially in all areas of exercise. My arms were just shy of 18 inches and I was sitting at 212lbs at the end of my cutting phase.

Hard work and dedication, and it makes you feel great having accomplished goals. If you have any questions regarding stuff, let me know!

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 04:16 PM

View PostAssail, on 19 February 2013 - 10:44 AM, said:

Text and sexy pics

Thanks for the long and helpful reply. And that's pretty damn impressive, I doubt I'll make progress anything remotely like that.

Just to make things clear, the measurements are for fun, and to be incorporated into the time-lapse video I'm going to make. However, I've decided on doing only weight and time spent at gym as measurements, making it very not-so time consuming at all. Also, I will be taking daily pictures as a time-lapse video with monthly pictures over two or so years would be kind of short B).

And I found the prefect diet for me: eat until you can't take another bite. Then eat som more. I have a bit of trouble putting on weight, so I have to eat like a sunovabitch. I aim at 3000 kcal a day, and on workout days (which would be 4-5 days a week), I try to get at the very LEAST 3000, more if I can manage (I don't really like food). Fat gain does not really bother me, I just wanna get big. I also doubt I'll get a six-pack however I try, as even when I was more or less bone thin (56kg at 1,80m), I had only moderately defined abs. It's as much about genes as how you work out and eat, according to what I've read. I might go on a diet specifically to get ripped sometime ahead, but it's not a goal I've got in mind right now. I'm shooting for increasing my weight with at least 10-15kg by the end of this year.

As for exercises utilizing knees, I do not dislike them, it's just that I have bad knees, and squats and such put a LOT of preassure on the knees, no matter how one does them. I'm doing squats in a machine right now, and it's feeling fairly good, so I might go on to doing free-standing ones in a week or two. Deadlifts I will have to start with too, just never done 'em before so I gotta be a bit careful.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:31 PM

The only time you should be describing your six pack as delicious is when it looks like mine

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:54 PM

Lookin good Macros! What do you think of mine?

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 08:33 PM

hmm, I'll not lie, I've never really tried any before, I like to stick to what I know
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:29 PM

View PostMacros, on 19 February 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

The only time you should be describing your six pack as delicious is when it looks like mine

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:06 PM

View PostMacros, on 19 February 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

hmm, I'll not lie, I've never really tried any before, I like to stick to what I know


Meh, Its from Oregon. I'd be happy to ship you or anyone else across the pond some if you ever wanted to try it. IPAs are my go-to.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:47 AM

View PostForkassalOfTheInnerCircle, on 19 February 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:

View PostAssail, on 19 February 2013 - 10:44 AM, said:

Text and sexy pics

Thanks for the long and helpful reply. And that's pretty damn impressive, I doubt I'll make progress anything remotely like that.

Just to make things clear, the measurements are for fun, and to be incorporated into the time-lapse video I'm going to make. However, I've decided on doing only weight and time spent at gym as measurements, making it very not-so time consuming at all. Also, I will be taking daily pictures as a time-lapse video with monthly pictures over two or so years would be kind of short B).

And I found the prefect diet for me: eat until you can't take another bite. Then eat som more. I have a bit of trouble putting on weight, so I have to eat like a sunovabitch. I aim at 3000 kcal a day, and on workout days (which would be 4-5 days a week), I try to get at the very LEAST 3000, more if I can manage (I don't really like food). Fat gain does not really bother me, I just wanna get big. I also doubt I'll get a six-pack however I try, as even when I was more or less bone thin (56kg at 1,80m), I had only moderately defined abs. It's as much about genes as how you work out and eat, according to what I've read. I might go on a diet specifically to get ripped sometime ahead, but it's not a goal I've got in mind right now. I'm shooting for increasing my weight with at least 10-15kg by the end of this year.

As for exercises utilizing knees, I do not dislike them, it's just that I have bad knees, and squats and such put a LOT of preassure on the knees, no matter how one does them. I'm doing squats in a machine right now, and it's feeling fairly good, so I might go on to doing free-standing ones in a week or two. Deadlifts I will have to start with too, just never done 'em before so I gotta be a bit careful.




Fair enough then, since it's project based and all. Do what you do little homie haha.

That might work well with you, depending on how your metabolism works and whatnot. It's not always so much how much you eat (Although when bulking that does play a big role), but what you eat. Getting big, and then getting cut is quite the scientific process and it takes some serious self control. As far as workout days go, Start with 4 days a week, with a day in between. Let your body adjust to strain and then go up to 5, maybe 6 days. What type of supplements are you taking?

I wouldn't say genes when it comes to your abs. They only play a role when it comes to the shape of your abs. Mine aren't as angular as some guys, they tend to be more rounded and pop out more, it all just depends. Nutrition is where you'll get definition from. Nutrition and HIIT (High intensive interval training).

10-15kg is a solid amount of muscle, but easily doable by the end of the year. Don't stress it, just do your thing and it'll come. If you don't make the goal, it isn't the end of the world, but keep it constant.

My only advice is regards to your knees is this. Squat with braces, or some kind of external support, and work on your form. Form over weight. On top of correct form, weight adjustment and external support, you'll notice they'll probably hurt less. Whenever you get back to me on your supplements, I'll give you my input on them and what will help maximize what you're trying to do.

Form form form. Any multi-movement exercise needs correct form. Watch videos, watch yourself in the mirror. Get it down perfectly before you start doing any serious weight. Super important with cleans, squats, deadlifts or any other Olympic lifts.

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View PostMacros, on 19 February 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

hmm, I'll not lie, I've never really tried any before, I like to stick to what I know


Meh, Its from Oregon. I'd be happy to ship you or anyone else across the pond some if you ever wanted to try it. IPAs are my go-to.


I can vouch for this. Oregon produces some badass IPAs. Badass beer in general and I'm not even a beer guy. You ever tried Kirin Ichiban? Not an IPA, but a phenomenal beer nonetheless. I was introduced to it out here in Hawaii. Same goes for you, I wouldn't be against shipping you some if you're interested in trying it.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:00 PM

View PostAssail, on 19 February 2013 - 10:29 PM, said:

View PostMacros, on 19 February 2013 - 07:31 PM, said:

The only time you should be describing your six pack as delicious is when it looks like mine

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hmmm, well I try to ensure most pictures of me are clothed and holding a beer. This is the key starting point, you should be holding a beer as often as possible.
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