[Korlat]

Rashan, on 27 March 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

I personally believe that Ay is the Jester and should therefore be ignored the rest of the game. He's already lost unless PS is lying to us (possible but I don't feel probable). This game already has too much WIFOM already why go and create more. What we should be arguing over is do we think Eloth's role is a scum role or not. If we agree that it is scum then we can go and argue over if Ay or Bok was Eloth and lynch them. Personally I'm not 100% sure that character would be a scum role. I haven't though much on it.

Karosis, on 27 March 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:

Rashan rather than focus on the Jester role do you have any input into who is scum or not? You are picking safe subjects to talk about. What do you think on the Amp vote and the Ryll vote?

I think Rhyllandros looks more scummy every time he opens his mouth. But, for now, the opportunity to put a possible scum 2 down is more appealing.

[Karosis]

I think you just made a boo boo Rashan/Korlat.

[Karosis]

So what two role do you have Korlat/Rashan? At this point there is no point in lying, you have replied to me as Rashan in the Korlat alt.

[Ampelas]

Hah, does look that way, doesn't it!

[Korlat]

Korlat, on 27 March 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

Rashan, on 27 March 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

I personally believe that Ay is the Jester and should therefore be ignored the rest of the game. He's already lost unless PS is lying to us (possible but I don't feel probable). This game already has too much WIFOM already why go and create more. What we should be arguing over is do we think Eloth's role is a scum role or not. If we agree that it is scum then we can go and argue over if Ay or Bok was Eloth and lynch them. Personally I'm not 100% sure that character would be a scum role. I haven't though much on it.

Karosis, on 27 March 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:

Rashan rather than focus on the Jester role do you have any input into who is scum or not? You are picking safe subjects to talk about. What do you think on the Amp vote and the Ryll vote?

I think Rhyllandros looks more scummy every time he opens his mouth. But, for now, the opportunity to put a possible scum 2 down is more appealing.

I put the Rashan quote in there because of the now underlined item.

And I put an 'answer' to Karosis because I wanted to answer that question before it was posed to me. Saves time.

If you think I'm so stupid as to use 16 combined posts and still manage to do something that dumb? Then yeah, I'm a 2 alt person and Rashan is my puppet. Or am I the puppet and Rashan the master?

[Karosis]

It looks as though they have scarpered. I don't know what a double alt would entail. What faction would that be in or benefit? It is quite powerful voting wise though so possible town? I have no idea.

[Ryllandaras]

Ampelas, on 27 March 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

Right, I personally have no strong feelings on anyone. I might do a reread sometime tonight if I have the time, but that would already be getting close to deadline (not close close, but seeing as we need a lot of votes to get a lynch, relatively speaking), so I'm going to lay a vote now.

As I said, no strong feelings, so I'm going back to the old "scum hiding somewhere in the middle of post count" tactic. Thus,

Vote Silchas Ruin


Actually, Silchas is Eloth-like in that he has also as much as admitted he has three memorable roles all with abilities - so he could be dangerous.

I agree that we need to reach some kind of consensus on what to do with Eloth (who I think is Bek). I'm also willing to vote Ryllandaras, as I'm curious to see what will come of all of Bendal's aggression there.

I am not willing to waste a vote on the Jester/former Jester, who I believe to be Ay at this present moment.

Why not test that by lynching Bendal? His relentlessness points more to scum behavior than town. There are two town teams, and it benefits both sides of town to eliminate both of the scum teams and keep town alive. Scum just wants to eliminate everybody, so they don't have to be as picky on who they lynch. I picked Eloth yesterday as a possible FM or SK, which do not seem like town roles, and Ay today, because I don't think he is Eloth or Aranatha, and I think that his being an unknown that is hiding something seems more likely to be scum.

[Karosis]

Korlat, on 27 March 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

Korlat, on 27 March 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

Rashan, on 27 March 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

I personally believe that Ay is the Jester and should therefore be ignored the rest of the game. He's already lost unless PS is lying to us (possible but I don't feel probable). This game already has too much WIFOM already why go and create more. What we should be arguing over is do we think Eloth's role is a scum role or not. If we agree that it is scum then we can go and argue over if Ay or Bok was Eloth and lynch them. Personally I'm not 100% sure that character would be a scum role. I haven't though much on it.

Karosis, on 27 March 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:

Rashan rather than focus on the Jester role do you have any input into who is scum or not? You are picking safe subjects to talk about. What do you think on the Amp vote and the Ryll vote?

I think Rhyllandros looks more scummy every time he opens his mouth. But, for now, the opportunity to put a possible scum 2 down is more appealing.

I put the Rashan quote in there because of the now underlined item.

And I put an 'answer' to Karosis because I wanted to answer that question before it was posed to me. Saves time.

If you think I'm so stupid as to use 16 combined posts and still manage to do something that dumb? Then yeah, I'm a 2 alt person and Rashan is my puppet. Or am I the puppet and Rashan the master?

Mistakes happen. I do not think you are dumb enough to do this on purpose but I do call bullshit on your reply.

[Ampelas]

Karosis, on 27 March 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

It looks as though they have scarpered. I don't know what a double alt would entail. What faction would that be in or benefit? It is quite powerful voting wise though so possible town? I have no idea.

If it is Meng Huo then actually, it's not powerful voting-wise. In the Rot3K game, Meng Huo had two alts, but the vote didn't count for one of them. Faction game, so hard to tell whether it would be scum or town. In the previous game in which MH featured, I 'guess' he was more of a scummy role (had to be lynched several times).

This is all IF it is Meng Huo, of course.

So yeah, I dunno.

[Karosis]

Ryllandaras, on 27 March 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 27 March 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

Right, I personally have no strong feelings on anyone. I might do a reread sometime tonight if I have the time, but that would already be getting close to deadline (not close close, but seeing as we need a lot of votes to get a lynch, relatively speaking), so I'm going to lay a vote now.

As I said, no strong feelings, so I'm going back to the old "scum hiding somewhere in the middle of post count" tactic. Thus,

Vote Silchas Ruin


Actually, Silchas is Eloth-like in that he has also as much as admitted he has three memorable roles all with abilities - so he could be dangerous.

I agree that we need to reach some kind of consensus on what to do with Eloth (who I think is Bek). I'm also willing to vote Ryllandaras, as I'm curious to see what will come of all of Bendal's aggression there.

I am not willing to waste a vote on the Jester/former Jester, who I believe to be Ay at this present moment.

Why not test that by lynching Bendal? His relentlessness points more to scum behavior than town. There are two town teams, and it benefits both sides of town to eliminate both of the scum teams and keep town alive. Scum just wants to eliminate everybody, so they don't have to be as picky on who they lynch. I picked Eloth yesterday as a possible FM or SK, which do not seem like town roles, and Ay today, because I don't think he is Eloth or Aranatha, and I think that his being an unknown that is hiding something seems more likely to be scum.

You could say scum will want to think more about their lynch choices due to having to "blend" in. Bendal does not do that by being agressive. Do you really think Bendal will come up scum? He believes that you will. Amp voting Silchas is a scummy move in my opinion. He has no way of knowing whether Silchas is on his team, his decision is a blind vote based off of voting numbers. Not only that but the day has focused primarily on the two returned alts, Amp himself and you (with the exception of the recent Rashan/Korlat thingy). For us to co ordinate and get a lynch Amp is throwing a spanner in the works and I do not like it. I would prefer to lynch everyday and Amp's move looks to be against that.


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For all the things been discussed about you so far. Plus my above reasoning.

[Desra]

Here and catching up.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 12 hours and 25 minutes remaining

26 Players still alive: Ampelas, Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, Bendal Home, D'riss, Demelain, Desra, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Karosis, Kilava, Korbas, Korlat, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Ryllandaras, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Tellan, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

14 votes to lynch, 13 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Ay Estos ( Tellan, Ryllandaras )
1 Vote for Bek Okhan ( Korlat )
1 Vote for Silchas Ruin ( Ampelas )
1 Vote for Ryllandaras ( Bendal Home )
2 Votes for Ampelas ( Kilava, Karosis )

Players not voted: Ay Estos, Bek Okhan, D'riss, Demelain, Desra, Fanderay, Galayn Lord, Korbas, Liosan, Mockra, Monok Ochem, Omtose, Prazec Goul, Rashan, Silchas Ruin, Skintick, Trake, Tulas Shorn, Ultama

[Korbas]

Karosis, on 27 March 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 27 March 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 27 March 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

Right, I personally have no strong feelings on anyone. I might do a reread sometime tonight if I have the time, but that would already be getting close to deadline (not close close, but seeing as we need a lot of votes to get a lynch, relatively speaking), so I'm going to lay a vote now.

As I said, no strong feelings, so I'm going back to the old "scum hiding somewhere in the middle of post count" tactic. Thus,

Vote Silchas Ruin


Actually, Silchas is Eloth-like in that he has also as much as admitted he has three memorable roles all with abilities - so he could be dangerous.

I agree that we need to reach some kind of consensus on what to do with Eloth (who I think is Bek). I'm also willing to vote Ryllandaras, as I'm curious to see what will come of all of Bendal's aggression there.

I am not willing to waste a vote on the Jester/former Jester, who I believe to be Ay at this present moment.

Why not test that by lynching Bendal? His relentlessness points more to scum behavior than town. There are two town teams, and it benefits both sides of town to eliminate both of the scum teams and keep town alive. Scum just wants to eliminate everybody, so they don't have to be as picky on who they lynch. I picked Eloth yesterday as a possible FM or SK, which do not seem like town roles, and Ay today, because I don't think he is Eloth or Aranatha, and I think that his being an unknown that is hiding something seems more likely to be scum.

You could say scum will want to think more about their lynch choices due to having to "blend" in. Bendal does not do that by being agressive. Do you really think Bendal will come up scum? He believes that you will. Amp voting Silchas is a scummy move in my opinion. He has no way of knowing whether Silchas is on his team, his decision is a blind vote based off of voting numbers. Not only that but the day has focused primarily on the two returned alts, Amp himself and you (with the exception of the recent Rashan/Korlat thingy). For us to co ordinate and get a lynch Amp is throwing a spanner in the works and I do not like it. I would prefer to lynch everyday and Amp's move looks to be against that.


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For all the things been discussed about you so far. Plus my above reasoning.

Why such a reaction?

[Karosis]

Ampelas, on 27 March 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

Karosis, on 27 March 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

It looks as though they have scarpered. I don't know what a double alt would entail. What faction would that be in or benefit? It is quite powerful voting wise though so possible town? I have no idea.

If it is Meng Huo then actually, it's not powerful voting-wise. In the Rot3K game, Meng Huo had two alts, but the vote didn't count for one of them. Faction game, so hard to tell whether it would be scum or town. In the previous game in which MH featured, I 'guess' he was more of a scummy role (had to be lynched several times).

This is all IF it is Meng Huo, of course.

So yeah, I dunno.

You are way off base. Meng Huo had one alt that game. Played by Kurt originally. Each time town lynched him he FM'd into another alt of his choosing. It took town forever and a day to finally catch him the first time. The two alts you refer to were double finders. They were a lover pair if I am not mistaken.

[Ampelas]

Karosis, on 27 March 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 27 March 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 27 March 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

Right, I personally have no strong feelings on anyone. I might do a reread sometime tonight if I have the time, but that would already be getting close to deadline (not close close, but seeing as we need a lot of votes to get a lynch, relatively speaking), so I'm going to lay a vote now.

As I said, no strong feelings, so I'm going back to the old "scum hiding somewhere in the middle of post count" tactic. Thus,

Vote Silchas Ruin


Actually, Silchas is Eloth-like in that he has also as much as admitted he has three memorable roles all with abilities - so he could be dangerous.

I agree that we need to reach some kind of consensus on what to do with Eloth (who I think is Bek). I'm also willing to vote Ryllandaras, as I'm curious to see what will come of all of Bendal's aggression there.

I am not willing to waste a vote on the Jester/former Jester, who I believe to be Ay at this present moment.

Why not test that by lynching Bendal? His relentlessness points more to scum behavior than town. There are two town teams, and it benefits both sides of town to eliminate both of the scum teams and keep town alive. Scum just wants to eliminate everybody, so they don't have to be as picky on who they lynch. I picked Eloth yesterday as a possible FM or SK, which do not seem like town roles, and Ay today, because I don't think he is Eloth or Aranatha, and I think that his being an unknown that is hiding something seems more likely to be scum.

You could say scum will want to think more about their lynch choices due to having to "blend" in. Bendal does not do that by being agressive. Do you really think Bendal will come up scum? He believes that you will. Amp voting Silchas is a scummy move in my opinion. He has no way of knowing whether Silchas is on his team, his decision is a blind vote based off of voting numbers. Not only that but the day has focused primarily on the two returned alts, Amp himself and you (with the exception of the recent Rashan/Korlat thingy). For us to co ordinate and get a lynch Amp is throwing a spanner in the works and I do not like it. I would prefer to lynch everyday and Amp's move looks to be against that.


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For all the things been discussed about you so far. Plus my above reasoning.

Why would scum (if I am such as you think) want to throw a spanner in the works of a lynch? That doesn't make sense, unless you think everyone who's been voted on so far is also scum, and I know them. In which case, why not vote for one of them?

I see no consensus so I threw another name in there. I know it's not one that's likely to garner a lot of votes, but my intention was to raise their profile for everyone else. I have also explicitly said that I am willing to switch votes, so again - how is that stopping a (thus far non-existent) lynch train?

I'm getting a little sick of people either wilfully or stupidly misinterpreting my statements.

[Ampelas]

Karosis, on 27 March 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 27 March 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:

Karosis, on 27 March 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

It looks as though they have scarpered. I don't know what a double alt would entail. What faction would that be in or benefit? It is quite powerful voting wise though so possible town? I have no idea.

If it is Meng Huo then actually, it's not powerful voting-wise. In the Rot3K game, Meng Huo had two alts, but the vote didn't count for one of them. Faction game, so hard to tell whether it would be scum or town. In the previous game in which MH featured, I 'guess' he was more of a scummy role (had to be lynched several times).

This is all IF it is Meng Huo, of course.

So yeah, I dunno.

You are way off base. Meng Huo had one alt that game. Played by Kurt originally. Each time town lynched him he FM'd into another alt of his choosing. It took town forever and a day to finally catch him the first time. The two alts you refer to were double finders. They were a lover pair if I am not mistaken.

I didn't play the first game with MH, so I was stating from what I remember from skimming the OP. The second game featuring MH - the multiple alt - it was Meng Huo and his wife, but both controlled by the same person.


However, it should be noted that the PS post about Meng Huo is from that first game where MH was an FM, not one of two alts being controlled by the same person. So it is quite possible that if Korlat and Rashan are the two alts being controlled by one person, that neither is Meng Huo.

[Karosis]

Korbas, on 27 March 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Karosis, on 27 March 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

Ryllandaras, on 27 March 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 27 March 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:

Right, I personally have no strong feelings on anyone. I might do a reread sometime tonight if I have the time, but that would already be getting close to deadline (not close close, but seeing as we need a lot of votes to get a lynch, relatively speaking), so I'm going to lay a vote now.

As I said, no strong feelings, so I'm going back to the old "scum hiding somewhere in the middle of post count" tactic. Thus,

Vote Silchas Ruin


Actually, Silchas is Eloth-like in that he has also as much as admitted he has three memorable roles all with abilities - so he could be dangerous.

I agree that we need to reach some kind of consensus on what to do with Eloth (who I think is Bek). I'm also willing to vote Ryllandaras, as I'm curious to see what will come of all of Bendal's aggression there.

I am not willing to waste a vote on the Jester/former Jester, who I believe to be Ay at this present moment.

Why not test that by lynching Bendal? His relentlessness points more to scum behavior than town. There are two town teams, and it benefits both sides of town to eliminate both of the scum teams and keep town alive. Scum just wants to eliminate everybody, so they don't have to be as picky on who they lynch. I picked Eloth yesterday as a possible FM or SK, which do not seem like town roles, and Ay today, because I don't think he is Eloth or Aranatha, and I think that his being an unknown that is hiding something seems more likely to be scum.

You could say scum will want to think more about their lynch choices due to having to "blend" in. Bendal does not do that by being agressive. Do you really think Bendal will come up scum? He believes that you will. Amp voting Silchas is a scummy move in my opinion. He has no way of knowing whether Silchas is on his team, his decision is a blind vote based off of voting numbers. Not only that but the day has focused primarily on the two returned alts, Amp himself and you (with the exception of the recent Rashan/Korlat thingy). For us to co ordinate and get a lynch Amp is throwing a spanner in the works and I do not like it. I would prefer to lynch everyday and Amp's move looks to be against that.


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For all the things been discussed about you so far. Plus my above reasoning.

Why such a reaction?

I considered not answering you for not reading up and asking this question. Then I though that would be rude. The first line in Amp post

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Right, I personally have no strong feelings on anyone

yet he votes for Silchas. How can he know if Silchas is on his team or not? It is a shot in the dark. I don't like it. Only scum may nonchalantly throw their vote around like that.

Silchas actually has a few posts, Amp could have went back and found a reason within those posts to vote for him. It is a dirty vote. Careless.

[Ampelas]

Karosis, on 27 March 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

Silchas actually has a few posts, Amp could have went back and found a reason within those posts to vote for him. It is a dirty vote. Careless.

And I did find a reason, if you read it. Same reason I voted for Eloth.

[Ampelas]

Karosis, on 27 March 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

I considered not answering you for not reading up and asking this question. Then I though that would be rude. The first line in Amp post

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Right, I personally have no strong feelings on anyone

yet he votes for Silchas. How can he know if Silchas is on his team or not? It is a shot in the dark. I don't like it. Only scum may nonchalantly throw their vote around like that.

Silchas actually has a few posts, Amp could have went back and found a reason within those posts to vote for him. It is a dirty vote. Careless.

Further, the same question you pose can be pointed at you.


How do you know I'm not on your team? What a careless vote Unless of course you DO know that I'm not on your team.

[Karosis]

Ampelas, on 27 March 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Karosis, on 27 March 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

Silchas actually has a few posts, Amp could have went back and found a reason within those posts to vote for him. It is a dirty vote. Careless.

And I did find a reason, if you read it. Same reason I voted for Eloth.

There are around 8 people in the middle poster category. You are just picking a random number and going along with it. Last game we had a scum that played just like you (Liosan) ie top poster and one that low posted. So why not pick Omtose or Trake? You know the whole scum hiding in the low poster routine? Your reasoning for voting is bullshit. My reasoning for voting you has been laid out over the last five pages by various people. All points I agree with.

Kilava, on 27 March 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

No no no..you said "if someone has a scum role it doesnt make them scum"
(I say it more likely makes them scum than inno.. but thats besides the point i initially made.)

I say it looks like you could have a scum ROLE / ALT / ABILTYFUCK mutherfuckr, and are perhaps scared of the consequences if the CF comes out...you slippery twat.
Hence not wanting people to look too much into scum roles that people "CF" as.

fuck your "caution"...this is what i see when i read your statement.
And in fact your argument here again leads credence to that same supiscion.
I again feel you might have a scummy looking role.

and looking at YOUR last line...when i say CF i mean all CF's not just "THE" final CF.

This one by Kilava more than most.