[Blend]

Tattersail, on 16 January 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:

Khell is one to shoot himself in the foot as always. If you are partnered why would you not interact that way on thread? Why would you? You are trying to paint what I see as WIFOM and I don't like it. You could easily use that as a tactic to hide the fact that you are partnered. Don't try to tell me that isn't how scum play. You'll have a strategy and you're both pissed I'm on to you. I don't know who is innocent, or who is not, but you seem to be very agreeable with Khell, and he seems to like voting after you. He could very well be setting you up and that is the reason i'm voting Khell.

Anytime I have ever played scum, I have always been told that doing things that could be seen as obviously scummy is not a safe way to hide, because people (like you) tend to latch on as 'any reason to vote.' Anyway, as I am sure you know, it's possible to agree with someone (even Khell) without being scum partners with them, specially considering that statistically, you are more likely to be agreeing with a fellow towny.

That being said, you ARE right in saying that it is odd for Khell to be buddying up to me the way he is, but he could just as easily be trying to 'obvious' symp me so that it looks like I am scum. I think that if Khell is scum, he's more likely a symp than a scum, and I'd rather try to figure out who he's symping than vote him off. Getting rid of a symp right away gives us nothing, but letting a symp do his thing gives us clues as to who he may be symping for, which is more likely to point us at actual scum.

[The Dude]

Khellendros, on 16 January 2013 - 05:50 PM, said:

The Dude, on 16 January 2013 - 05:30 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 16 January 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

Blend, on 16 January 2013 - 05:19 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 16 January 2013 - 05:12 PM, said:

You are funny, Tats.


Voting for you is scummy, unvoting for you is scummy...is that paranoia or panic which is making you sweat?

I think Tatts just really wants people to believe that you and I to be the most obvious scum partners that ever existed. I mean, anyone who has played or even read the last 3-4 games would know that you and I are usually at odds with each other, so he's trying to make it seem like the fact that we agree is really suspicious. It's like he's a dog with a big ass bone, and we're the big ass bone. He thinks that if he comes at us different ways, he'll eventually destroy us.

I didn't even realise that we were agreeing till you and Tats pointed it out. Now you got me paranoid that you're trying to fake-symp me.

This post is stinky, like a master telling a symp to cool it off.

Oh brother, reaching much?

Maybe, but your "oh I didn't even realize.." followed by your cute little emoticon struck something. It's day one, there isn't much to go on bu Gut, and my gut says you are acting fishy.

[Khellendros]

Tattersail, on 16 January 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:

Khell is one to shoot himself in the foot as always. If you are partnered why would you not interact that way on thread? Why would you? You are trying to paint what I see as WIFOM and I don't like it. You could easily use that as a tactic to hide the fact that you are partnered. Don't try to tell me that isn't how scum play. You'll have a strategy and you're both pissed I'm on to you. I don't know who is innocent, or who is not, but you seem to be very agreeable with Khell, and he seems to like voting after you. He could very well be setting you up and that is the reason i'm voting Khell.

Lolsies, I know this isn't directly addressed to me, but I really need to break this paragraph down for everyone:

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Khell is one to shoot himself in the foot as always.

So this sentence suggests that my vote on Tats and supposed agreeableness with Blend was retarded scum play.

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If you are partnered why would you not interact that way on thread?

Oh, so it wasn't retarded scum play. It was actually normal scum play?

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Why would you?

Wait, what? Is it would you or would you not? Make up your mind Tats.

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You are trying to paint what I see as WIFOM and I don't like it. You could easily use that as a tactic to hide the fact that you are partnered. Don't try to tell me that isn't how scum play.

So, scum play by following each other on to a vote, on day 1, when they know chances are high that some silly inno will start a train on someone not likely to be them, that they can just easily hop on? I have to say that isn't one I've seen too often. Oh, and according to Tats, it's really completely plain that we're partnered due to our interaction or something - which as we all know is another classic scum day 1 tactic.

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You'll have a strategy and you're both pissed I'm on to you.

Yeah, you've totally cracked it genius. Your OMGUS vote on me sure proves that.

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I don't know who is innocent, or who is not

Wait, I thought we were both scum?

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but you seem to be very agreeable with Khell, and he seems to like voting after you.

Now I'll admit that Blend seems to be making an unusually ham-fisted show of agreeing with me, and I don't like that. I don't know, however, where you can say that I've been in agreement with Blend though. And no, fooling around doesn't count. I mean in terms of game play, obviously. As for the 'he seems to like voting after you' - you base that on one incident? That's your sample size, is it? Well, colour me sceptical. I believe Bonecaster or someone had 2 votes on them at one point, why aren't you chasing those people in that case?

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He could very well be setting you up and that is the reason i'm voting Khell.

Wow, way to contradict the opening to your paragraph



In conclusion, Tats is gibbering. Obviously, I'm not saying he might not be right about Blend, and that I might be wrong about Tats, but at this point he's either acting like a retarded monkey or panicking. From two votes with some 15 hours to go!

[Khellendros]

Blend, on 16 January 2013 - 07:50 PM, said:

That being said, you ARE right in saying that it is odd for Khell to be buddying up to me the way he is, but he could just as easily be trying to 'obvious' symp me so that it looks like I am scum. I think that if Khell is scum, he's more likely a symp than a scum, and I'd rather try to figure out who he's symping than vote him off. Getting rid of a symp right away gives us nothing, but letting a symp do his thing gives us clues as to who he may be symping for, which is more likely to point us at actual scum.

Wat da fuuu....do you wish to take the retarded monkey badge away from Tats? Please, pray tell, where is this 'buddying up to you'?

[Blend]

You've been indirectly agreeing with me all day. You haven't directly told me 'Blend you're right' but you've been making the same or similar accusations as me without actually blatantly stating it. That's what I call symping, but hey, maybe I am just an idiot. *shrugs*

[Gnaw]

Blend, on 16 January 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

You've been indirectly agreeing with me all day. You haven't directly told me 'Blend you're right' but you've been making the same or similar accusations as me without actually blatantly stating it. That's what I call symping, but hey, maybe I am just an idiot. *shrugs*

Well, that's interesting. I realize I've not played nearly as many games as most of you, but that looks a lot like an attempt at distancing.

[Blend]

Gnaw, on 16 January 2013 - 08:24 PM, said:

Blend, on 16 January 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

You've been indirectly agreeing with me all day. You haven't directly told me 'Blend you're right' but you've been making the same or similar accusations as me without actually blatantly stating it. That's what I call symping, but hey, maybe I am just an idiot. *shrugs*

Well, that's interesting. I realize I've not played nearly as many games as most of you, but that looks a lot like an attempt at distancing.

Or, you know, answering Khell's question.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 9 hours and 35 minutes remaining
12 Players still alive: Blend, Bliss, Bonecaster, Brujah, Dude, Gnaw, Hinter, Khell, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Blend ( Hinter )
1 Vote for Tattersail ( Khell )
1 Vote for Khell ( Tattersail )

Players not voted: Blend, Bliss, Bonecaster, Brujah, Dude, Gnaw, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper

[Lady Bliss]

Ok, I had to boot up myt laptop so I could actually do a proper read through and post. Trying to quote from a phone or Ipad sucks.
I have to agree with almost everyone that Tatts acted pretty spastic after just a couple of joke votes. That looks like something to watch. But I have to wonder about all of this 'dirty' talk.

Blend does it first:

Blend, on 15 January 2013 - 07:35 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 15 January 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

Blend, Bliss, Bonecaster, Brujah - too many B names. I propose we get rid of one to make life simpler. Mafia thrives on simplicity.

Yet another reason to lynch that dirty newbie.

As an aside, isn't Bliss's username Ornery Owl now?

Then Khell:

Khellendros, on 15 January 2013 - 07:37 PM, said:

Blend, on 15 January 2013 - 07:35 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 15 January 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

Blend, Bliss, Bonecaster, Brujah - too many B names. I propose we get rid of one to make life simpler. Mafia thrives on simplicity.

Yet another reason to lynch that dirty newbie.

As an aside, isn't Bliss's username Ornery Owl now?

Isn't that KL?


Dirty newbie or Brujah...so many temptations. And then I look over across at the rest of the names and my god, but I would love to see them all lynched

Then Tapper:

Tapper, on 16 January 2013 - 08:42 AM, said:

Also, Hinter, I would be interested in the recipe for the caramalized sauce you served with the duck... Also, is that proper 'dirty' stilton not in order with EU regulations, or the easy cop-out that's now no longer allowed?
With respect to the duck bones - aren't they like all poultry hollow, therefore easy to break into sharp shards, and likely to hurt/maim/kill whichever animal chews them?

And then we have Blend going on and on about 'filthy' newbies and feeling 'unclean'.

Blend, on 16 January 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:

Lady Bliss, on 16 January 2013 - 01:05 AM, said:

1) Tatts talk about pushing lunches

He always did make me hungry, that one.......

I know this was meant to say lynches, but seriously, I wish people would push lunches more often.

To be serious though, though Tatts may have just been screwing with the filthy newbie, I *DO* think we should keep an eye on him. He could just as easily be trying to manipulate the filthy newbie into trying to vote a certain way, which is a pretty scummy thing to do.

Blend, on 16 January 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 16 January 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

Two pronged scum attack? wow.

fair enough

control the thread how? Do you know what that means? How am I doing that? No one has followed any of my votes. I was trying to manipulate the newbie into voting night, that's right, i'm not denying it. How does that make me scum?

Okay, after careful inspection of the thread, I may have been mistaken on the 'controlling the thread' thing. But as you say above, you tried to get the filthy newbie to vote night, and that right there is a scum move. It's a 'let's give up the right to use town's only power, the lynch, to allow the killers to use their powers' thing. How does that NOT make you scum?

And don't think that I didn't see your partner, Tapper, try to get him to do the same thing. Shame on you both for trying to confuse the poor filthy newbie.

Blend, on 16 January 2013 - 05:31 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 16 January 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

I didn't even realise that we were agreeing till you and Tats pointed it out. Now you got me paranoid that you're trying to fake-symp me.

Hey, how do you think I feel? I hate having to agree with you. It makes me feel unclean, no matter how many times I shower. But when I think you're right, I can't just disagree cause YOU are making the accusations, no matter how much I want to.

I can, however, wait to see what others are thinking, just in case you're wrong, which would mean that at least then I wouldn't be the only one to blame for agreeing with you!

My take on all of this is that Blend and Khell are both killers and were trying to sniff out their symp (Tapper). I could vote for either of them personally, but since Blend started it...

vote Blend

[Bonecaster]

Leper! Outcast! Unclean!


I've been on Kevin's Watch for a decade, so I can't help shouting that out when I see certain words. Heh heh


As for the game... It boggles my mind that anybody actually gets any clues from what anybody is saying!!

[Path-Shaper]

This is a mod announcement.



Brujah has been replaced with HiddenOne.



Please carry on.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 8 hours and 52 minutes remaining
12 Players still alive: Blend, Bonecaster, Brujah, Dude, Gnaw, Hinter, Khell, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Blend ( Hinter, Lady Bliss )
1 Vote for Tattersail ( Khell )
1 Vote for Khell ( Tattersail )

Players not voted: Blend, Bonecaster, Brujah, Dude, Gnaw, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 16 January 2013 - 09:30 PM

[Lady Bliss]

Path-Shaper, on 16 January 2013 - 09:26 PM, said:

This is a mod announcement.



Brujah has been replaced with HiddenOne.



Please carry on.

Hope all is well Bru...

[HiddenOne]

checking in

[Khellendros]

Bliss, it's not your voting for Blend that I necessarily disagree with. Right now, he's my second choice after Tats, but the way you identified me as a killer with Blend but then voted Blend rather than me which is interesting, as is the timing of your vote. You are, after all, the person I'm accusing of being a symp if I'm right about Tats, and so it's interesting that you agree with Tats' assumptions but then vote differently to him. That suggests to me that you want to help him but don't feel you can afford to vote the same way as him, so you go for his other target, and dress it up as your own 'case'.

[Sixty]

Bonecaster, on 16 January 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

Leper! Outcast! Unclean!


I've been on Kevin's Watch for a decade, so I can't help shouting that out when I see certain words. Heh heh


As for the game... It boggles my mind that anybody actually gets any clues from what anybody is saying!!

I've played 20+ games of mafia and I still blunder through most games by gut, don't feel bad.

[Gnaw]

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Tattersail 53
Khellendros 39
Blend 29
Path-Shaper 19
Gnaw 15
Hinter 14
Bonecaster 12
Sixty 12
The Dude 11
Lady Bliss 11
Silencer 9
Tapper 7
Bubba 2
HiddenOne 1

Can you believe this shit?? Only one post by HO. You'd think after all the shit he's gotten for low posting... Eh, that one was just too incredibly lame to finish.

I could go with a Blend lynch. It's as good as any other Day 1 case. The Tatts is a slightly weaker case. But not by much.

However, with this many experienced players I'd like to wait a bit and see what the rest are thinking.

And I'm still bumfuzzled about how we're supposed to be better players because of a mech we won't see until after the game is over.

[Lady Bliss]

Khellendros said:

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Bliss, it's not your voting for Blend that I necessarily disagree with. Right now, he's my second choice after Tats, but the way you identified me as a killer with Blend but then voted Blend rather than me which is interesting, as is the timing of your vote. You are, after all, the person I'm accusing of being a symp if I'm right about Tats, and so it's interesting that you agree with Tats' assumptions but then vote differently to him. That suggests to me that you want to help him but don't feel you can afford to vote the same way as him, so you go for his other target, and dress it up as your own 'case'.

Khell, the reason why I chose Blend over you is because he really seems to be milking this 'dirty' talk. Tapper also emphasized "dirty" in his response which seems significant.
The fact that I flirted with Tatts is just my being a shameless tart which we should all be aware of by now. I think he spazzed a bit too much, and does look scummy, but the Blend, Khell, Tapper case I made just seems stronger to me.

[HiddenOne]

Bonecaster, on 16 January 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

Leper! Outcast! Unclean!


I've been on Kevin's Watch for a decade, so I can't help shouting that out when I see certain words. Heh heh


As for the game... It boggles my mind that anybody actually gets any clues from what anybody is saying!!

If you understand 12% of what was going on, it would make you a genius

[HiddenOne]

Gnaw, on 16 January 2013 - 09:45 PM, said:

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Tattersail 53
Khellendros 39
Blend 29
Path-Shaper 19
Gnaw 15
Hinter 14
Bonecaster 12
Sixty 12
The Dude 11
Lady Bliss 11
Silencer 9
Tapper 7
Bubba 2
HiddenOne 1

Can you believe this shit?? Only one post by HO. You'd think after all the shit he's gotten for low posting... Eh, that one was just too incredibly lame to finish.

I could go with a Blend lynch. It's as good as any other Day 1 case. The Tatts is a slightly weaker case. But not by much.

However, with this many experienced players I'd like to wait a bit and see what the rest are thinking.

And I'm still bumfuzzled about how we're supposed to be better players because of a mech we won't see until after the game is over.

I've only been playing for 15 minutes Gnaw.