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#241 User is offline   Blend 

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 09:58 PM

Okay, so let me get this straight, because I called Bonecaster a dirty newbie, Khell copied me, Tapper talked about some dirty stilton, and then I commented about how agreeing with Khell makes me feel unclean, we're a scum team? Really? That case is stronger than Tattersail trying to manipulate the newbie and spazzing out over 2 votes? Wow... Here I thought I understood Mafia. Thank you for disabusing me of that notion.

I have obviously hit some nerves in the Tattersail accusations, so I'm going to back off for now.

Now that HO has checked in, however, I think we should vote him off. I know for a fact that he's been keeping up with the thread before he was subbed in for Brujah (he was often seen as one of the Users reading this topic at the bottom), so he should definitely have some opinions.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 09:59 PM

View PostHiddenOne, on 16 January 2013 - 09:54 PM, said:



I've only been playing for 15 minutes Gnaw.


Now he's just making excuses. If he had a valid reason for being a low poster that would be one thing. But playing the "I'm a replacement player" card so early in the game is just outrageous. If Shin were here he'd already be fitting the noose around your neck.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:02 PM

View PostBlend, on 16 January 2013 - 09:58 PM, said:

Okay, so let me get this straight, because I called Bonecaster a dirty newbie, Khell copied me, Tapper talked about some dirty stilton, and then I commented about how agreeing with Khell makes me feel unclean, we're a scum team? Really? That case is stronger than Tattersail trying to manipulate the newbie and spazzing out over 2 votes? Wow... Here I thought I understood Mafia. Thank you for disabusing me of that notion.

I have obviously hit some nerves in the Tattersail accusations, so I'm going to back off for now.

Now that HO has checked in, however, I think we should vote him off. I know for a fact that he's been keeping up with the thread before he was subbed in for Brujah (he was often seen as one of the Users reading this topic at the bottom), so he should definitely have some opinions.

vote HiddenOne


Damn. Well so much for the shits and giggles. First distancing and now deflecting. Really?

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:04 PM

View PostBlend, on 16 January 2013 - 09:58 PM, said:

Okay, so let me get this straight, because I called Bonecaster a dirty newbie, Khell copied me, Tapper talked about some dirty stilton, and then I commented about how agreeing with Khell makes me feel unclean, we're a scum team? Really? That case is stronger than Tattersail trying to manipulate the newbie and spazzing out over 2 votes? Wow... Here I thought I understood Mafia. Thank you for disabusing me of that notion.

I have obviously hit some nerves in the Tattersail accusations, so I'm going to back off for now.

Now that HO has checked in, however, I think we should vote him off. I know for a fact that he's been keeping up with the thread before he was subbed in for Brujah (he was often seen as one of the Users reading this topic at the bottom), so he should definitely have some opinions.

vote HiddenOne


HAHAHA

my opinion is that you're a nervous scum that thinks anybody is a better choice than himself, all this Day 1 heat getting to you?
HiddenOne. You son of a bitch. You slimy, skulking, low-posting scumbag. You knew it would come to this. Roundabout, maybe. Tortuous, certainly. But here we are, you and me again. I started the train on you so many many hours ago, and now I'm going to finish it. Die HO. Die. This is for last time, and this is for this game too. This is for all the people who died to your backstabbing, treacherous, "I sure don't know what's going on around here" filthy lying, deceitful ways. You son of a bitch. Whatever happens, this is justice. For me, this is justice. Vote HiddenOne Finally, I am at peace.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:13 PM

It is Day 1. 8 hours and 8 minutes remaining
12 Players still alive: Blend, Bonecaster, Dude, Gnaw, Hiddenone, Hinter, Khell, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Hiddenone ( Blend )
3 Votes for Blend ( Hinter, Lady Bliss, Gnaw )
1 Vote for Tattersail ( Khell )
1 Vote for Khell ( Tattersail )

Players not voted: Bonecaster, Dude, Hiddenone, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:25 PM

I am out of here. One of the other Mods will be taking over.



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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:29 PM

View PostLady Bliss, on 16 January 2013 - 09:47 PM, said:

Khellendros said:

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Bliss, it's not your voting for Blend that I necessarily disagree with. Right now, he's my second choice after Tats, but the way you identified me as a killer with Blend but then voted Blend rather than me which is interesting, as is the timing of your vote. You are, after all, the person I'm accusing of being a symp if I'm right about Tats, and so it's interesting that you agree with Tats' assumptions but then vote differently to him. That suggests to me that you want to help him but don't feel you can afford to vote the same way as him, so you go for his other target, and dress it up as your own 'case'.


Khell, the reason why I chose Blend over you is because he really seems to be milking this 'dirty' talk. Tapper also emphasized "dirty" in his response which seems significant.
The fact that I flirted with Tatts is just my being a shameless tart which we should all be aware of by now. I think he spazzed a bit too much, and does look scummy, but the Blend, Khell, Tapper case I made just seems stronger to me.



Oh yes, your case is super-strong.

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I do like your 'oh yes, I think Tats is scummy, but actually I clearly have no intention of voting for him ever' :lol:

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:35 PM

Bliss's case pretty strong as far as day one signaling cases go. I hadn't noticed the "dirty" bit, which I pretty much wrote off as just ripping on the newbie.

@Blend: Tatts' reaction is about as strong of a case, I'd say, but that's the randomness of day one for you.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:35 PM

Blend was one of my favorite characters. So cool that she thought the power was in the (iirc?) pebble, and tried giving it to Quick. I'm gonna be sad to see Blend go, since it looks like it's going that way. But votes change an awful lot around here, so I'm not putting money on it. Heh.


Really not sure about casting a vote, though.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:39 PM

View PostSixty, on 16 January 2013 - 10:35 PM, said:

Bliss's case pretty strong as far as day one signaling cases go. I hadn't noticed the "dirty" bit, which I pretty much wrote off as just ripping on the newbie.

@Blend: Tatts' reaction is about as strong of a case, I'd say, but that's the randomness of day one for you.



In my case anyway that's exactly what it was. And he is a dirty newbie.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:44 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 16 January 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

View PostSixty, on 16 January 2013 - 10:35 PM, said:

Bliss's case pretty strong as far as day one signaling cases go. I hadn't noticed the "dirty" bit, which I pretty much wrote off as just ripping on the newbie.

@Blend: Tatts' reaction is about as strong of a case, I'd say, but that's the randomness of day one for you.



In my case anyway that's exactly what it was. And he is a dirty newbie.


I'm thinking it would be funny if Bliss was just looking out for the newbie and actually got scum by dumb luck.



In any case I don't trust signaling cases, even if Bliss has more merit than most.
On the other hand Tatts' reaction was definitely a bit much.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:45 PM

I'm out for a bit. Will be back briefly before lynch time-out to see what people think.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:47 PM

Bah, clearly I played this one wrong. But hey, you let Bliss lead you all by the nose because of a few of us calling Bonecaster a filthy newbie. I won't feel bad when you let scum win if you guys rely on bogus cases like that.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:48 PM

View PostBlend, on 16 January 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

Bah, clearly I played this one wrong. But hey, you let Bliss lead you all by the nose because of a few of us calling Bonecaster a filthy newbie. I won't feel bad when you let scum win if you guys rely on bogus cases like that.

Oh please. 3 votes and you're suddenly all mopey?

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:49 PM

For the record, HO was mostly a joke vote. Playing along with Gnaw. My true suspicions still lie in Tatts' direction.

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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:50 PM

View PostSixty, on 16 January 2013 - 10:48 PM, said:

View PostBlend, on 16 January 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

Bah, clearly I played this one wrong. But hey, you let Bliss lead you all by the nose because of a few of us calling Bonecaster a filthy newbie. I won't feel bad when you let scum win if you guys rely on bogus cases like that.

Oh please. 3 votes and you're suddenly all mopey?

Out for real now.



Well its 4 votes actually which is more than halfway to a lynch. At this point in the day I would be surprised if the train went any other way.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:52 PM

View PostBlend, on 16 January 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

Bah, clearly I played this one wrong. But hey, you let Bliss lead you all by the nose because of a few of us calling Bonecaster a filthy newbie. I won't feel bad when you let scum win if you guys rely on bogus cases like that.



I'll have to whisper this in case others hear it, but...I AGREE WITH YOU, BLEND! The more Bliss posts, the more I'm convinced that I actually did stumble on to the correct path. Her last post was just so - 'oh, that was just me being silly, nothing to see here at all, a ha ha ha ha' that it actually made me snort out loud. But no one else really seems keen, despite some agreeable noises, to back me up. So you're my next best.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 10:58 PM

You move your vote to Tatts and its 3-3 for he and I. Then we can see how everyone else feels.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:06 PM

View PostKhellendros, on 16 January 2013 - 10:29 PM, said:

View PostLady Bliss, on 16 January 2013 - 09:47 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 16 January 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

Bliss, it's not your voting for Blend that I necessarily disagree with. Right now, he's my second choice after Tats, but the way you identified me as a killer with Blend but then voted Blend rather than me which is interesting, as is the timing of your vote. You are, after all, the person I'm accusing of being a symp if I'm right about Tats, and so it's interesting that you agree with Tats' assumptions but then vote differently to him. That suggests to me that you want to help him but don't feel you can afford to vote the same way as him, so you go for his other target, and dress it up as your own 'case'.


Khell, the reason why I chose Blend over you is because he really seems to be milking this 'dirty' talk. Tapper also emphasized "dirty" in his response which seems significant.
The fact that I flirted with Tatts is just my being a shameless tart which we should all be aware of by now. I think he spazzed a bit too much, and does look scummy, but the Blend, Khell, Tapper case I made just seems stronger to me.



Oh yes, your case is super-strong.

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I do like your 'oh yes, I think Tats is scummy, but actually I clearly have no intention of voting for him ever' :lol:

I'll only be around a couple more hours on and off, day timeout is in the wee small hours for me.


And this seals the deal

vote Khell


you have looked scummy to me all game and this vote stinks of trying to get a train going on someone to save your skin before they can turn on you.


I'd also be open to tattersail. But I am happy with this vote. Same feeling I got when I led the train on Ruse day one last game. I was right then as well. I am going with informed instincts here.

I don't really have a feel for Bliss. I don't think a lynch is as essential in a non CF game as we don't know either way if we are right or not. So unless I got a better feel for her I;m not sure if i'd go for a vote on her.

Not sure how I feel about a blend lynch. His interactions with Khell haven't stuck out at me. (And Khell's interactions with him are not the reason I am voting Khell).

Let me go back and look at Bliss and see if I can pick up what you guys are sensing.
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Posted 16 January 2013 - 11:15 PM

View PostThe Dude, on 16 January 2013 - 11:06 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 16 January 2013 - 10:29 PM, said:

View PostLady Bliss, on 16 January 2013 - 09:47 PM, said:

View PostKhellendros, on 16 January 2013 - 09:38 PM, said:

Bliss, it's not your voting for Blend that I necessarily disagree with. Right now, he's my second choice after Tats, but the way you identified me as a killer with Blend but then voted Blend rather than me which is interesting, as is the timing of your vote. You are, after all, the person I'm accusing of being a symp if I'm right about Tats, and so it's interesting that you agree with Tats' assumptions but then vote differently to him. That suggests to me that you want to help him but don't feel you can afford to vote the same way as him, so you go for his other target, and dress it up as your own 'case'.


Khell, the reason why I chose Blend over you is because he really seems to be milking this 'dirty' talk. Tapper also emphasized "dirty" in his response which seems significant.
The fact that I flirted with Tatts is just my being a shameless tart which we should all be aware of by now. I think he spazzed a bit too much, and does look scummy, but the Blend, Khell, Tapper case I made just seems stronger to me.



Oh yes, your case is super-strong.

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I do like your 'oh yes, I think Tats is scummy, but actually I clearly have no intention of voting for him ever' :lol:

I'll only be around a couple more hours on and off, day timeout is in the wee small hours for me.


And this seals the deal

vote Khell


you have looked scummy to me all game and this vote stinks of trying to get a train going on someone to save your skin before they can turn on you.


I'd also be open to tattersail. But I am happy with this vote. Same feeling I got when I led the train on Ruse day one last game. I was right then as well. I am going with informed instincts here.

I don't really have a feel for Bliss. I don't think a lynch is as essential in a non CF game as we don't know either way if we are right or not. So unless I got a better feel for her I;m not sure if i'd go for a vote on her.

Not sure how I feel about a blend lynch. His interactions with Khell haven't stuck out at me. (And Khell's interactions with him are not the reason I am voting Khell).

Let me go back and look at Bliss and see if I can pick up what you guys are sensing.




Well, this is just damned if you, damned if you don't. The Tattersail case wasn't going anywhere, so I switched to the next best. Plus I wanted to demonstrate how weak Bliss' case was.

Of course, I'm sure that if I had stuck with Tattersail I would be accused of being scummy because I wasn't voting for Blend. Le sigh.


Fuck it, I might still switch. I always talka about missing out on following my instincts when I should, after all.
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