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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:12 AM

View PostSilencer, on 23 January 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

View PostTattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 11:29 PM, said:

I'm not going to be here when day times out, I've been online all day shooting the Shit, I've ran out if time. Who would you have me leave my vote on? I'm not going to be able to change it. I think you are less likely than sixty to turn out scum. HO could be scum, he came on and ran after a few posts.

On my phone now. I'd rather you left no vote if you have to. I have a plan to deal with that contingency if it's d- day. Will explain add soon as I get top my PC (20 minutes). Otherwise I think you should leave your vote where it is and just risk it. Though bliss should remove for now.


This sounds like you know something we don't, especially when suggesting to Bliss that she should remove her vote.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:24 AM

Is anybody having difficulty with the forum? It took a few attempts to get back on here.
HiddenOne. You son of a bitch. You slimy, skulking, low-posting scumbag. You knew it would come to this. Roundabout, maybe. Tortuous, certainly. But here we are, you and me again. I started the train on you so many many hours ago, and now I'm going to finish it. Die HO. Die. This is for last time, and this is for this game too. This is for all the people who died to your backstabbing, treacherous, "I sure don't know what's going on around here" filthy lying, deceitful ways. You son of a bitch. Whatever happens, this is justice. For me, this is justice. Vote HiddenOne Finally, I am at peace.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:27 AM

The forum works fine, if you're Town.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:29 AM

View PostHinter, on 24 January 2013 - 12:12 AM, said:

View PostSilencer, on 23 January 2013 - 11:49 PM, said:

View PostTattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 11:29 PM, said:

I'm not going to be here when day times out, I've been online all day shooting the Shit, I've ran out if time. Who would you have me leave my vote on? I'm not going to be able to change it. I think you are less likely than sixty to turn out scum. HO could be scum, he came on and ran after a few posts.

On my phone now. I'd rather you left no vote if you have to. I have a plan to deal with that contingency if it's d- day. Will explain add soon as I get top my PC (20 minutes). Otherwise I think you should leave your vote where it is and just risk it. Though bliss should remove for now.


This sounds like you know something we don't, especially when suggesting to Bliss that she should remove her vote.


Right, back on my PC now, so allow me to elaborate (if it came off like that, you can blame it on the fact that I don't like posting from my phone overmuch, so was being brief and therefore a bit cryptic).


OK, so, let's assume we have a WCS where we have three scum still alive - not going to make any claims about the actual game setup, just that it's potentially d-day given we have no CF and even with one a lot of people seem to be thinking there may have been a four-man scum team anyway.
With me so far?

OK, given this, if we lynch wrong today we lose. Given this, putting two votes on any one person who *isn't* scum is potentially game-ending. Therefore either Tatts or Bliss should remove vote for Sixty - now, it should really be Tatts, because his vote is going to move later, and I don't want us defaulting to Sixty when it could lose us the game, but if he wants to leave his vote somewhere it might as well be there (and if we end up lynching Sixty it will help if Sixty is scum).

BUT! Here's the fun part: if Tatts is innocent, then without him we cannot lynch scum, given d-day, correct? Therefore if we get a really good scum candidate today and try and vote them off while Tatt's vote is pinned down or not available, then that player is probably scum if there is then resistance to their lynch. In fact, it would be a no-win situation for scum - they either lynch one of their own (averting d-day) or highlight their entire team (handing us the game).

That's the risky play.

The sensible play is, given d-day, we don't lynch. (This is that one scenario I mentioned in my mafia 101 post, btw) Instead we let it go to night, scum kills one person. This 1) narrows the field of suspects. 2) Gives us another day with a reduced field before it's do-or-die.


So assuming everyone is in agreement that today *could* be d-day, we either need to go with the risky play (see if someone cannot be lynched), in which case Tatts might as well leave his vote on Sixty because we're taking a fifty-fifty gamble on anyone. Or we go the sensible play - in which case Tatts OR Lady B really need to remove their votes from Sixty because if he is not scum then if/when all three hypothetically remaining scum get on at the same time they will pile on the votes and it's game over.

Does everyone understand the basic logic? Is there anything glaringly wrong with this most basic of assumptions about the potential for today being d-day and the ensuing correct or risky choices we have facing us?
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:32 AM

Oh, wait. About to make the riskiest play of my liiiiife.


Vote Sixty
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<Vote Silencer> For not garnering any heat or any love for that matter. And I'm being serious here, it's like a mental block that is there, and you just keep forgetting it.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:34 AM

WTF Silencer, you are doing what you just said we need to not do?
HiddenOne. You son of a bitch. You slimy, skulking, low-posting scumbag. You knew it would come to this. Roundabout, maybe. Tortuous, certainly. But here we are, you and me again. I started the train on you so many many hours ago, and now I'm going to finish it. Die HO. Die. This is for last time, and this is for this game too. This is for all the people who died to your backstabbing, treacherous, "I sure don't know what's going on around here" filthy lying, deceitful ways. You son of a bitch. Whatever happens, this is justice. For me, this is justice. Vote HiddenOne Finally, I am at peace.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:35 AM

View PostHiddenOne, on 24 January 2013 - 12:34 AM, said:

WTF Silencer, you are doing what you just said we need to not do?


Yes, yes I am. Because, well, vote dammit!
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Shinrei said:

<Vote Silencer> For not garnering any heat or any love for that matter. And I'm being serious here, it's like a mental block that is there, and you just keep forgetting it.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:36 AM

gee, all this pressure...

I suspect you are running some kind of weird endgame scheme
HiddenOne. You son of a bitch. You slimy, skulking, low-posting scumbag. You knew it would come to this. Roundabout, maybe. Tortuous, certainly. But here we are, you and me again. I started the train on you so many many hours ago, and now I'm going to finish it. Die HO. Die. This is for last time, and this is for this game too. This is for all the people who died to your backstabbing, treacherous, "I sure don't know what's going on around here" filthy lying, deceitful ways. You son of a bitch. Whatever happens, this is justice. For me, this is justice. Vote HiddenOne Finally, I am at peace.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:37 AM

View PostHiddenOne, on 24 January 2013 - 12:36 AM, said:

gee, all this pressure...

I suspect you are running some kind of weird endgame scheme


Absolutely, because this has nothing to do with anything I've posted upthread or the people who have posted in the last ten minutes. Lul.
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<Vote Silencer> For not garnering any heat or any love for that matter. And I'm being serious here, it's like a mental block that is there, and you just keep forgetting it.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:38 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 23 January 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

It is Day 4. 8 hours and 39 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Sixty ( Lady Bliss )

Players not voted: Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail



Mod going away. Yada Yada Suck it.



View PostTattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

So that's all you left me with in 2 hours when I'll be going to bed soon. Fuckz!

For me my points in the past are based on bcs and Wcs.

Bcs we lynch either Silencer Sixty or Tapper for Blends partner. Nothing major makes one stand out.

WCs we lynch HO as hiding in plain site scum.

No one up thread except Bliss has laid out anything remotely convincing if who they want to lynch and why.

For some unknown reason I see Silencer and Sixty as chums. In my opinion one of th is scum and the other Is being fed sweetness and delight.

For not voting for Blend day one, for ignoring the Dude start of day two. For then wanting me instead of Blend afterwards. For the distance vote day three I'm going to

vote sixty



View PostSilencer, on 24 January 2013 - 12:32 AM, said:

Oh, wait. About to make the riskiest play of my liiiiife.


Vote Sixty


So SIxty is L-2 - care to explain the about turn Silencer?
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:39 AM

More than one of you have said Silencer is a great player. If that's true, than I suck worse than I thought I did. Because I don't have a fucking clue what just happened. :)
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:40 AM

View PostHinter, on 24 January 2013 - 12:38 AM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 23 January 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

It is Day 4. 8 hours and 39 minutes remaining
8 Players still alive: Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Lady Bliss, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail

5 votes to lynch, 4 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Sixty ( Lady Bliss )

Players not voted: Bonecaster, Hiddenone, Hinter, Silencer, Sixty, Tapper, Tattersail



Mod going away. Yada Yada Suck it.



View PostTattersail, on 23 January 2013 - 10:44 PM, said:

So that's all you left me with in 2 hours when I'll be going to bed soon. Fuckz!

For me my points in the past are based on bcs and Wcs.

Bcs we lynch either Silencer Sixty or Tapper for Blends partner. Nothing major makes one stand out.

WCs we lynch HO as hiding in plain site scum.

No one up thread except Bliss has laid out anything remotely convincing if who they want to lynch and why.

For some unknown reason I see Silencer and Sixty as chums. In my opinion one of th is scum and the other Is being fed sweetness and delight.

For not voting for Blend day one, for ignoring the Dude start of day two. For then wanting me instead of Blend afterwards. For the distance vote day three I'm going to

vote sixty



View PostSilencer, on 24 January 2013 - 12:32 AM, said:

Oh, wait. About to make the riskiest play of my liiiiife.


Vote Sixty


So SIxty is L-2 - care to explain the about turn Silencer?


2+3 = 5


If SOME PEOPLE would just get with the program, we could win right now.
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<Vote Silencer> For not garnering any heat or any love for that matter. And I'm being serious here, it's like a mental block that is there, and you just keep forgetting it.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:41 AM

View PostBonecaster, on 24 January 2013 - 12:39 AM, said:

More than one of you have said Silencer is a great player. If that's true, than I suck worse than I thought I did. Because I don't have a fucking clue what just happened. :)


Never played a game with him before. So far I can attest that he is a great talker, the result will confirm whether he is a great player or not.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:42 AM

well, I'm going to go along, but if anybody calls me scummy for it, then you'd better help me explain your murky reasoning

Vote Sixty

Why do I feel like a sheep all at once?
HiddenOne. You son of a bitch. You slimy, skulking, low-posting scumbag. You knew it would come to this. Roundabout, maybe. Tortuous, certainly. But here we are, you and me again. I started the train on you so many many hours ago, and now I'm going to finish it. Die HO. Die. This is for last time, and this is for this game too. This is for all the people who died to your backstabbing, treacherous, "I sure don't know what's going on around here" filthy lying, deceitful ways. You son of a bitch. Whatever happens, this is justice. For me, this is justice. Vote HiddenOne Finally, I am at peace.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:42 AM

I'm so confused. Silencer you're now convinced I am scum?
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:42 AM

Oh. I get it.



vote Sixty
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:43 AM

View PostSixty, on 24 January 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

I'm so confused. Silencer you're now convinced I am scum?


Thoroughly. :)
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:44 AM

Fuck it, I'm stumbling in the dark but the almighty Silencer is telling me to

vote Sixty


so I will say Baaaa like a sheep and shit on the floor.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:45 AM

Meh, too late, can't even get that right.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 12:46 AM

Well that's more than we needed, but whatever. :)

Now we wait for a kindly mod to resolve, I guess. No breaking out the champaign until we get a resolution, everyone.

And mere seconds before Lady Bliss came on and removed, too. *phew*
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