[Tattersail_]

Shinrei, on 07 December 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

Go back to end of day two. I made a post before the hammer. I was there and could have changed were I the killer.

That is interesting Shin seem as you are never around in the day time. Killer keeping an eye on things?

[Tattersail_]

Gust Hubb, on 06 December 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Well I did! Have an interview today.

Ok, so in terms of Azath, I think giving him one night to stew (and if he is our finder get one more name) would be most beneficial. I always assume a killer pair, so knocking him off won't win us the game if he is scum.

We need to find out today before D day on Azath I think. If we leave it and he doesn't die or find scum then we are screwed.

[Shinrei]

Tattersail, on 07 December 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:

Shinrei, on 07 December 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

Go back to end of day two. I made a post before the hammer. I was there and could have changed were I the killer.

That is interesting Shin seem as you are never around in the day time. Killer keeping an eye on things?

Day time? If I recall that was about the time I put my daughter to bed. That used to be my wheelhouse of posting time. Now with the kid, my evenings aren't really my own.

[Shinrei]

Hmm, may seem OMGUS, but those are two flimsy claims you have made about me Tatts. First "Shin wasn't here" when I was. And then "Posting when he normally doesn't" which is actually my evening (and I most certainly have done posting during that time in this game.

Symp tossing shit hoping it sticks?

[Tattersail_]

Shinrei, on 07 December 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

Hmm, may seem OMGUS, but those are two flimsy claims you have made about me Tatts. First "Shin wasn't here" when I was. And then "Posting when he normally doesn't" which is actually my evening (and I most certainly have done posting during that time in this game.

Symp tossing shit hoping it sticks?

No as you see above I am thinking of you more as a town but why you are around I can still poke and prod.

[Shinrei]

Which is what I was doing to you, too. Fair play

[Tattersail_]

Shinrei, on 07 December 2012 - 11:19 AM, said:

Which is what I was doing to you, too. Fair play

What do you think of the statement from Gust above. How do we approach the finder reveal? If we leave it and it approaches D day it will screw us over.

Personally I could go for one of the four I mentioned above.

If we leave Azath then I think Blend or Bubba would be a good place to look for scum.

[Shinrei]

I think we leave Azath for now, and reconsider based on lynch/night/azath's find or death. The potential still exists that the reveal caught the killers/killer away from the thread so I don't feel any immediate need to lynch our potential finder.

I WOULD like to hear why he chose gusty though.

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw, on 06 December 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

Brujah, on 06 December 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

that I was willing to shed my dignity, by yelling the truth

Bru, I can't speak for others only myself. You could have went with the less informative "I'm injured and shit got in the way" and it would have been fine. The fuller post is fine too. There's a difference between oversharing and being forthright.

As somebody who spent 3 months in a burn unit, 2 months inpatient physical therapy, and a year outpatient, I can fully attest to the need for venting occasionally. Dignity is the first casualty of modern medicine. Shoot me a PM if you want to talk. Or not. Your choice.

Now, back to killing people.

As Bubba points out, fuck is this?

[Tattersail_]

I do find something off about Bubba. He is lying low. Blend mentions that Bubba warrants attention.

Blend, on 06 December 2012 - 09:42 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 06 December 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:

Back to game - weird choice for a kill. I wolkd almost say inexperienced killer, except that I don't think there are any inexperienced players here.

Course, Azath could have been lying. But I'm still surprised neither he nor Gnaw on the other hand were killed.

I'm gonna throw it out there and say that Azath may have actually been a killer, using a finder reveal to throw us off his scent. It's a 13 person game, so I can totally see it being just 2 killers, 1 symp, and no roled towns.

That being said, Gust is kind of a weird choice. Though he WAS the one who was putting pressure on Azath, it would be kind of clumsy to go after someone so obvious, don't you think? Then again, I suspect Tats of being a killer, and the person voting him on Day 1 (KL) was killed during night 1. Could Azath and Tats be paired killers perhaps?

I think Bubba warrants some pressure, he's been quiet all game. That being said, I don't think I've ever played a game with Bubba, so I'm not sure if that's his M.O. or not.

This was a cross post as Bubba points out.

Bubba, on 06 December 2012 - 09:45 PM, said:

I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean. He's not a home owner?

I think the scum want us to dis-trust and lynch Gnaw or Az, That's the only reason I can see one of them not getting NKed last night.

I would like some answers from Az, like, did you find any scum last night?


And to answer Gnaw. I was looking at the post count and noticed he hadn't posted. So piss off.

If you want people to look at a quoted post....how about this one of yours

Quote

Now, back to killing people.

He speculates on why scum did not kill AZ or Gnaw last night which is wifom.

Bubba, on 06 December 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

*cross post with Blend*

Mentions it was a cross post but does not answer Blends accusation.

Bubba, on 07 December 2012 - 04:24 AM, said:

Azathmaster, on 07 December 2012 - 04:06 AM, said:

Gnaw, on 07 December 2012 - 03:50 AM, said:

Azathmaster, on 07 December 2012 - 03:26 AM, said:

Comparing an old role to ideas of a new role help me to organize my thoughts about it. Its just a habit i guess.

Care to share those thoughts?
If I need to remind you, you did put us at the top of the "suspicious" list by not getting NK'd last night.

My thoughts are that the role is likely to be an information role (maybe a tracker? Or watcher?) and can see if someone performed an NA, but can only post about it in pics in resolution.
On being on suspicion list: some people may find you or me suspicious because we havent been NK'd, but others have noticed that scum may have purposefully not killed either of us so town would think that we were scum, which reinforces the fact that we are town. So its kinda WIFOM.

The problem I have with that is there is now some sort of other finder revealing stuff. Your finds now look kinda scumy, and with you doing a find on GH just as he gets NKed. Doesn't look good.

I just don't know who should get voted on first. You, Gnaw, or Tatts.

I will wait to hear from the of the people before placing a vote.

Then there he goes again, let's hear from others before he places a vote. This shows that he is concerned what others think rather than voting himself. He doesn't want to ruffle feathers? He doesn't want to start a train? I don't know. Bubba strikes me as a low lying scum.

His partner could be Khell, Blend, HO, Azath or whoever, i'm not looking for his partner at the moment, I think Bubba could very well be a killer.

[Tattersail_]

Bubba, on 07 December 2012 - 06:46 AM, said:

Quote

Hey Bubba, got anything to say about anyone else? Like your partner Blend for instance?

Well Shin, I have been gone from Mafia so long that most of the players in this game are unknown to me. I thought I had a read on Venge playing nice, ended up with a Inno lynch. So I have been trying to watch for just mistakes or good evidence before posting.

I didn't think we had scum yesterday so I didn't vote. I went on "Gut" before, didn't work out for Venge. Blend? as with the rest ..... No idea what to look for as far as their playing style.....so no clue.

I think you and Blend mention each other a little but today will vote along with each other. Blend mentioned you but will probably vote elsewhere, you mentioned him but will probably vote elsewhere. You haven't mentioned much about Khell, you've played with him before no?

[Tattersail_]

Vote Bubba

I think a lot of things are off with your play this game. Like some people have said they haven't got a good read on you and you are imo downplaying your mafia ability.

[Shinrei]

Tattersail, on 07 December 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

Blend has done a good job of having clean posts and playing a clean town game he has done nothing out of the ordinary. Yesterday I put him in the same boat as GH for giving of town vibes and I placed my trust in him a little. I'm going to have a read up on him today and see if there is anything there to nitpick.

You gonna follow through with this?

[Tattersail_]

Shinrei, on 07 December 2012 - 12:22 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 07 December 2012 - 08:22 AM, said:

Blend has done a good job of having clean posts and playing a clean town game he has done nothing out of the ordinary. Yesterday I put him in the same boat as GH for giving of town vibes and I placed my trust in him a little. I'm going to have a read up on him today and see if there is anything there to nitpick.

You gonna follow through with this?

It's quite busy today so i'm trying but work is hampering me.

[Tattersail_]

I have cracked the game!!!

I feel so certain about this Shin.

[Shinrei]

Ok....do tell.

[Tattersail_]

I think the Killers are Bubba and Khell. 99% Certain.

Blend is their symp.

Evidence?

Khellendros, on 03 December 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

Also,

Vote HiddenOne

Because we don't want a repeat of last time, now do we. Lynch the quiet monster!

I'll start off here, why not?

Khell's single mindedness towards HO was not very good for town, it shows that Khell doesn't care about any one else? He knows that HO will come up innocent if we lynch him and he can argue that a scum player would not do this.

How ever...

Blend, on 03 December 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

I am torn. A vote for EM is always a good choice in my books but not letting HiddenOne off the hook this time also seems smart. Then again, Tats and Khell were quick to start the joke voting, either of them could be trying to deflect right out the gates, plus I kinda wanna lynch Khell for lynching the healer that was right about everything in the Time Travel game (aka me). On Day 1 no less. In fact, I think we should get rid of him before he uses his superpowers to get us all killed.

vote Khellendross

Blend comes on and Votes Khell. Now I voted BEFORE Khell and Blend indicates us both in his post. Yet he chooses Khell for the vote. This could be a symp signalling his master. Why vote Khell over me? Also they have little interaction on thread.

I continue...

Blend, on 03 December 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

I think this is the first time I have played a game with KL or Bubba, so I have no idea what to expect from either of them!! Anyone wanna fill me in?

He mentions both Kl and Bubba here. Nothing much but in the mind of Bubba being a killer maybe he is wanting our thoughts on Bubba so Bubba can see how to play. Or so that Bubba will comment and he can build rapport with him. Does this happen? Yes. I'll bring it up in a minute.

For now

Blend, on 03 December 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 03 December 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 03 December 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

So far I see several good cases that I could get behind.

The EM case is strong and yet so is the Khell case. Both have a lot of merit in my book. But you know who really needs to be lynched. Bubba, it has been a while since he played mafia and what better way to welcome someone back into the warm mafia embrace then to lynch them before they can post.


Vote Bubba


Plus he is an admin so the hate and rage that would roll off of him would be impressive.

Ha ha, so cruel I love it!

Remove Vote

Vote Bubba

You're being kind of wanton with your votes, don't you think?

I vote Bubba following Venge's vote. Blend immediately attacks my vote. It is only my second vote of the day and instead of attack this I defended my reasons.

I will continue...

[Khellendros]

Oh dear. I haven't read all of your post Tats, but I saw my name at the top.

You haven't cracked it I'm afraid

[Tattersail_]

Blend, on 03 December 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 03 December 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 03 December 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

I do not think I have played in an alt less game where town have won. This is going to be the first!

Because you're the killer and you're rubbish?

Blend bowing down to his master.

Blend, on 03 December 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:

Vengeance, on 03 December 2012 - 03:19 PM, said:

Wins losses are irrelevant.

What matters is the list. Does it grow or are names crossed off.

Venge, if the list were the only thing that mattered, I would spend every game just hunting down Khell and EM. Statistically that doesn't work. They can't ALWAYS be scum.

He is taunting us here. Grouping Khell with EM he is creating a situation where if we do lynch EM it would show good light on Khell. Maybe Taunting us but it gets better...


From here neither Khell nor Blend posts for ages. They let the thread stew with us all bickering back and forth. Then on comes Bubba...

Bubba, on 03 December 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

If you people had managed to pull off a speed lynch of me before I had a chance to post (before game was officially supposed to start IIRC) you all would be playing the next month with My Little Pony avatars.

vote Veng

He sends his little feeler out with a Venge vote. At this point Venge has a vote on him (mine) and it puts him at +2 votes.

I told you to look out for the rapport, it starts here..

Blend, on 03 December 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

Bubba, on 03 December 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

If you people had managed to pull off a speed lynch of me before I had a chance to post (before game was officially supposed to start IIRC) you all would be playing the next month with My Little Pony avatars.

vote Veng

Heh, I almost wish we had done it... Playing Legend of Korra mafia with My Little Pony avatars would be hilarious!

So Blend jokes with Bubba, and agrees with Azath...

Blend, on 03 December 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

Azathmaster, on 03 December 2012 - 06:01 PM, said:

Gusty hasnt gotten any attention yet. He's scum

That's actually a very good point. Why has everyone been ignoring Gusty?

He is pointing fingers at certain people but refrainging to do so with others...

He then points out a Gnaw post..

Blend, on 03 December 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 03 December 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

Remove Vote
Vote HiddenOne

A vote with no explanation? I think this is scummier than most of what's out there right now.

Bubba follows this with a Gnaw vote..

Bubba, on 03 December 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

I have to say that vote Gnaw is the first really scum like thing I have seen today.

Remove vote, Vote Gnaw


I will be the first to put some pressure on you to explain.

Gnaw replies but once Blend master has his vote down, Blend has his back.

Blend, on 03 December 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

Gnaw, on 03 December 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

I talk too much. Going to try the lurker mode that others use so successfully.

Lurkers don't usually admit to being lurkers. And lurking is a known scum tactic. Why would you intentionally do something that looks scummy?

remove vote
vote Gnaw

So they are voting together and joking around.

[Khellendros]

Vote Bubba


Because I was most likely going to today anyway. I agree that he has been coasting throughout.