[Gust Hubb]

Just saying I'd like confirmation that the text is relevant to figuring out who is who as opposed to Brujah spinning his story telling magic. And as for voting Shin, I was more referring to the lack of quote evidence directly tied to Shin (for instance, I pointed out that there were several aspects of Azath's behavior that were suspicious beyond what I perceived as Blend's symping). The same lack of evidence was my complaint against Shin's case (or lack thereof).

[Starling]

Shinrei, on 04 December 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Tatts might be playing spastically, but hes not stupid. What you describe starling would be some truly foolish symping.

remove vote

Since khell pointed out im accusing him of being dumb when he clearly isnt . Crazy he is, but not dumb.

For the most part, I think his play has been rather good symp play. Bounce around leaving lots of votes, stir up confusion, and give us lots of inno trains to talk about, while scum sit around nodding sagely and contributing as and when they feel like it.

I'll admit that the switch was clumsy, but the way he did it bothers me. He had been talking about it for hours, why would he only switch with 5 hours to go?

[Path-Shaper]

Gust Hubb, on 04 December 2012 - 11:35 PM, said:

Just saying I'd like confirmation that the text is relevant to figuring out who is who as opposed to Brujah spinning his story telling magic. And as for voting Shin, I was more referring to the lack of quote evidence directly tied to Shin (for instance, I pointed out that there were several aspects of Azath's behavior that were suspicious beyond what I perceived as Blend's symping). The same lack of evidence was my complaint against Shin's case (or lack thereof).

Nowhere in the scenes will there be any hints as to which player is who: no hints as to who has what role, no hints as to which player is which character in any scene. No hints as to who the killer or killers are.

There is, however, a bit of detail regarding the structure of the island. This part is purely for building a better picture of the environment, hoping only to add a bit more realism to it for you guys.

With that said, there still could be certain information found in the scenes. This in no way give anyone an advantage, as all can read.

In summary, it's purely intended to create a more enjoyable game without altering the outcome.

-Brujah

[Gust Hubb]

Path-Shaper, on 04 December 2012 - 11:56 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 04 December 2012 - 11:35 PM, said:

Just saying I'd like confirmation that the text is relevant to figuring out who is who as opposed to Brujah spinning his story telling magic. And as for voting Shin, I was more referring to the lack of quote evidence directly tied to Shin (for instance, I pointed out that there were several aspects of Azath's behavior that were suspicious beyond what I perceived as Blend's symping). The same lack of evidence was my complaint against Shin's case (or lack thereof).

Nowhere in the scenes will there be any hints as to which player is who: no hints as to who has what role, no hints as to which player is which character in any scene. No hints as to who the killer or killers are.

There is, however, a bit of detail regarding the structure of the island. This part is purely for building a better picture of the environment, hoping only to add a bit more realism to it for you guys.

With that said, there still could be certain information found in the scenes. This in no way give anyone an advantage, as all can read.

In summary, it's purely intended to create a more enjoyable game without altering the outcome.

-Brujah

Did I call it, or, did I call it?

[Khellendros]

Gust Hubb, on 04 December 2012 - 11:58 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 December 2012 - 11:56 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 04 December 2012 - 11:35 PM, said:

Just saying I'd like confirmation that the text is relevant to figuring out who is who as opposed to Brujah spinning his story telling magic. And as for voting Shin, I was more referring to the lack of quote evidence directly tied to Shin (for instance, I pointed out that there were several aspects of Azath's behavior that were suspicious beyond what I perceived as Blend's symping). The same lack of evidence was my complaint against Shin's case (or lack thereof).

Nowhere in the scenes will there be any hints as to which player is who: no hints as to who has what role, no hints as to which player is which character in any scene. No hints as to who the killer or killers are.

There is, however, a bit of detail regarding the structure of the island. This part is purely for building a better picture of the environment, hoping only to add a bit more realism to it for you guys.

With that said, there still could be certain information found in the scenes. This in no way give anyone an advantage, as all can read.

In summary, it's purely intended to create a more enjoyable game without altering the outcome.

-Brujah

Did I call it, or, did I call it?

I don't know Gusty, he says 'no hints as to who has what role', and NOT, 'no hints as to what roles there are'. So.....

[Gust Hubb]

Why can you not say "good job?" Would it kill you to be complimentary for once!

[Khellendros]

Gust Hubb, on 05 December 2012 - 12:32 AM, said:

Why can you not say "good job?" Would it kill you to be complimentary for once!

I can only be complimentary when I give rep - where nobody else will read it

[Shinrei]

Starling, on 04 December 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 04 December 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Tatts might be playing spastically, but hes not stupid. What you describe starling would be some truly foolish symping.

remove vote

Since khell pointed out im accusing him of being dumb when he clearly isnt . Crazy he is, but not dumb.

For the most part, I think his play has been rather good symp play. Bounce around leaving lots of votes, stir up confusion, and give us lots of inno trains to talk about, while scum sit around nodding sagely and contributing as and when they feel like it.

I'll admit that the switch was clumsy, but the way he did it bothers me. He had been talking about it for hours, why would he only switch with 5 hours to go?

Its clumsy, but not any different from his day one play. That whole sequence was clumsy because of the crosspost voting, but that is how it should be read. If he is in fact a symp, fake symppage of me makes more sense than him actually following a killer

A) because i am not scum
because tatts isnt an idiot to symp a real killer like that.

To be honest though, I dont have a judgement of whether or not he is a symp from that sequence because at the time the crossposting made it look weirder than it really was.

[HiddenOne]

Calling it day
Seems PS is telling us about some roles, agreed - I will have to read that & the thread in the morning

Looks like there is some good work being done, I'll try to offer some opinons when I return

[Khellendros]

HiddenOne, on 05 December 2012 - 01:43 AM, said:

Calling it day
Seems PS is telling us about some roles, agreed - I will have to read that & the thread in the morning

Looks like there is some good work being done, I'll try to offer some opinons when I return

Classic HO! I swear it's like he's deliberately taking the piss, playing a parody of himself now!



Edit: Altered sentence slightly. Deal with it.

This post has been edited by Khellendros: 05 December 2012 - 01:50 AM

[Gnaw]

Starling, on 04 December 2012 - 11:24 PM, said:

Gust Hubb, on 04 December 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

I'm not sure what you are doing Shin (or Starling for that matter). Shin, you seem to support my case against Azath, but use that as a jumping point to go after khells. Starling, you spend a whole post casting aspersion on Tats and then vote Shin. Is this a game where we vote tangentially to our cases?

So, you're suggesting I vote for the person I think is a symp?

Based on Tatts' play, I think he's a symp. The trick then is to figure out who he's symping. From the way he changed when Shin came on, I think he's symping Shin. Which would make Shin a killer, therefore I voted for him.

So far that,s about the only thing that makes sense to me. But early day 2 yet. Off to bed. Have to get up at a truly ungodly hour in the morning for a 80 mile trip to get a shot in the knee.

[Gust Hubb]

I hate to say it, but Tats always seems like a talkative symp. I'm not convinced.

[Starling]

Shinrei, on 05 December 2012 - 12:54 AM, said:

Starling, on 04 December 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 04 December 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Tatts might be playing spastically, but hes not stupid. What you describe starling would be some truly foolish symping.

remove vote

Since khell pointed out im accusing him of being dumb when he clearly isnt . Crazy he is, but not dumb.

For the most part, I think his play has been rather good symp play. Bounce around leaving lots of votes, stir up confusion, and give us lots of inno trains to talk about, while scum sit around nodding sagely and contributing as and when they feel like it.

I'll admit that the switch was clumsy, but the way he did it bothers me. He had been talking about it for hours, why would he only switch with 5 hours to go?

Its clumsy, but not any different from his day one play. That whole sequence was clumsy because of the crosspost voting, but that is how it should be read. If he is in fact a symp, fake symppage of me makes more sense than him actually following a killer

A) because i am not scum
because tatts isnt an idiot to symp a real killer like that.

To be honest though, I dont have a judgement of whether or not he is a symp from that sequence because at the time the crossposting made it look weirder than it really was.

It's as much the behaviour before that as the confusion around the change of vote and all the cross-posts.

I'll concede though that if Tatts is a symp he is unlikely to be symping you, although I have problems with the meta aspact of that argument. For now

Remove Vote

[Azathmaster]

Back, finally. I see I'm a scum suspect now. The entire case is pretty much my drive by vote on venge and that im being "nervous."

[Gust Hubb]

A little more complex than that (Blend being a symp and your unusually quiet behavior as well), and you never pursued the case against me, just dropped it. Your behavior is off and you seem a little more careless this game, as if you really don't care who gets lynched.

[Gust Hubb]

To top it off, I don't believe I said anything about a drive by vote for Venge. Feeling prematurely defensive?

[Azathmaster]

Gust Hubb, on 05 December 2012 - 03:55 AM, said:

A little more complex than that (Blend being a symp and your unusually quiet behavior as well), and you never pursued the case against me, just dropped it. Your behavior is off and you seem a little more careless this game, as if you really don't care who gets lynched.

My unusually quiet behavior is because I'm back at school, I dropped the case when I felt it wasn't going anywhere and the Venge case gathered steam. I can't really defend the behavior is off thing. I wouldve sworn my venge vote drive by was part of the case but maybe I'm crazy. And I liked the venge case most because if he was inno, he had contributed and made a lot of connections, and so left a lot of leads, and if scum, we wouldve killed scum, which would fulfill all or half ofthe objective of the game (killing pair or single killer(s)

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 25 hours and 52 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Azathmaster, Blend, Bubba, EmperorMagus, Gnaw, Gust Hubb, Hiddenone, Khellendros, Shinrei, Starling, Tattersail

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Azathmaster ( Gust Hubb, Khellendros )

Players not voted: Azathmaster, Blend, Bubba, EmperorMagus, Gnaw, Hiddenone, Shinrei, Starling, Tattersail

[Path-Shaper]

I think Brujah's explanation covered all the bases re: the scene. If you have any questions feel free to ask in a PM.

-Sixty

[bubba]

I'm sorry Venge. I thought you we playing way to nice.

I have three of the clues from the expanded morning scene figured out.

But I cant for the life of me figure out what the drawing of Tatts by the well is supposed to mean. Anybody?