[Khellendros]

Blend, on 04 December 2012 - 07:29 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 04 December 2012 - 07:14 PM, said:

EmperorMagus, on 04 December 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 04 December 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

EmperorMagus, on 04 December 2012 - 06:44 PM, said:

Blend was actually answering HO's question.
HO never voted though, strange.
FUCK YOU VENGY.

Another possible partnership opens up - EM and Blend.

At least have the decency to show some mafia sense.If I was his partner I wouldn't defend him so overtly while he is getting so little heat.

I dismiss no possibilities.

I would like a HO lynch, but I am not closed to the option that someone(s) else entirely might be scum. Even so, I'd like a HO lynch.

Indeed, the fact that he hasn't been NKed leads to three possibilities:

1) The scum think he has a strong chance of being lynched and have left him alive for that reason.

2) The scum did not play in the last altless game and therefore do not bear the same notion of venegance against HO that the rest of no doubt do. Unless of course scum did play last game but went with option 1 regardless, in which case they are dangerous clear-headed thinkers, they surely would have taken the opportunity to cut HO's enjoyment of this game short.

3) HO is scum.

The last time you put your blinders on like this you lynched the healer so I am going to take this accusation with a grain of salt.

Blend, I like how you fail to mention why the healer was lynched. Because this particular healer had just done the worst ever reveal in the history of mafia, and even admitted that they had pretty much dug their own grave with that shoddy job

Or do you not remember that part, BLEND?

[Gust Hubb]

Azath and Khells are the killers and Blend is their symp.

On my reread, I started wondering about those who were not receiving any heat yet played integral roles in the day 1 discussions. Azath and Blend were the primary ones that came to mind. Azath hasn't received any attention, which given his low posting status makes sense. But Blend, who I noted in day 1 as "nice as usual," also has not received any scrutiny despite multiple vote switches, accusatory comments, and egging on voting trains.

At first I considered Blend to be killer material. A few quotes pinged my radar. Questions, for one, always get my attention (seem helpful, but helpful to whom?)

Blend, on 03 December 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

I think this is the first time I have played a game with KL or Bubba, so I have no idea what to expect from either of them!! Anyone wanna fill me in?

A nice revenge vote like everyone else, though this quote makes me look harder at Khells, who is very subdued this game.

Blend, on 03 December 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

Khellendros, on 03 December 2012 - 01:51 PM, said:

Blend, on 03 December 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

I am torn. A vote for EM is always a good choice in my books but not letting HiddenOne off the hook this time also seems smart. Then again, Tats and Khell were quick to start the joke voting, either of them could be trying to deflect right out the gates, plus I kinda wanna lynch Khell for lynching the healer that was right about everything in the Time Travel game (aka me). On Day 1 no less. In fact, I think we should get rid of him before he uses his superpowers to get us all killed.

vote Khellendross

It's not a joke vote, the longer we leave HO alone, the more we'll forget about him. That's his deadly power!

Although I have to admit your reason for voting me makes depressing sense too...

Of course it does. My superpower is being right.

Mention of being a symp and winning. Interesting combination of pairing with claiming town while discussing sympage.

Blend, on 03 December 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

Tattersail, on 03 December 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

I do not think I have played in an alt less game where town have won. This is going to be the first!

I haven't had a win since I symped in the Crusades mini. And that was my 3rd win in a row. I'm twitching for a win, so I'm with you on this one.

New direction of pointing fingers, though again using other people's thoughts as momentum (egging on).

Blend, on 03 December 2012 - 06:03 PM, said:

Azathmaster, on 03 December 2012 - 06:01 PM, said:

Gusty hasnt gotten any attention yet. He's scum

That's actually a very good point. Why has everyone been ignoring Gusty?

Cautious townie move, except for the fact that Venge was no where near L-1....

Blend, on 04 December 2012 - 04:56 PM, said:

That's L-1 on Venge. I will...

remove vote

just cause I'd like Khell and Azath to weigh in on a Ve[/b]ngy lynch. Will put my vote back on before time out if necessary.

And then the kicker. Upon putting his vote back on Venge after realizing his mistake, he says he's waiting for Azath and Khells (didn't he vote for Khells....?) input.

Blend, on 04 December 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

I just realized that Tats' vote was already on Venge, then he removed, and put it back on Venge.

vote Venge

As there's still plenty of time for Azath and Khell to come back.

Seemingly innocent, unless you consider the fact that those are the only two people who he mentions as looking up to. That and the fact that voting styles don't link up Azath and Khells either. Khells has his vote sitting on HO iirc, and Azath is one of the undecided, no-vote people at that point in the game. It's not like Blend is waiting for the undecided people's input, nor is he waiting for discussion from people who are voting venge. Just Azath and Khells.

And now looking back, you have to start wondering about Azath and Khells. Azath is lurking, and generally I find him helpful and nice, but he seems to be more nervous and hidden this game. Khells is subdued, depressed even, and while that may be just life for him at the moment, I'm wondering if he is tamping down his passion to keep from his usual flirting with a lynch (much like our scummy Tats and EM are currently doing).

Vote Azathmaster

[Path-Shaper]

Please refrain from using the term 'Arab' in derogatory syntax from here on. This falls under the hate speech part of the code of conduct, and I'm sure most of you were unaware including Venvy, but it is extremely offensive to certain parts of the world.

-Brujah

[EmperorMagus]

Gnaw seems unnaturally silent to me.
that,coupled with his vote yesterday seems enough to make him look really suspicious to me.
He has never been silent in my memory.and I have played in every game he has played.

[Khellendros]

Vote Azathmaster

How does that sit with your theory, Gust?

I've read over your case twice now, and it's tenuous at best. Not to defend Blend or anything, but why would a symp TWICE mention their killers' names jointly together in posts? No half-clever symp would ever do that (and I for one regard Blend as having at least half a brain).

If those posts are put in context, then you can see that neither Azath nor I had been around for ages, hence Blend wanted to know what we thought about the developments in our absence, I presume.

Or perhaps Blend wanted exactly what you just did, Gust, i.e. Blend IS a symp, and put in a fake-symping attempt so blatant that someone would call it out as real sympage. That, on the other hand, is something a half-brained symp like Blend might do (no offense Blend!).


And I'm not depressed! I'm just having a busy week at the moment (luckily coming just after ToD, I can't imagine how I would cope if we were still playing ToD).

[Shinrei]

Vote Khell

Since Gust isn't voting Khell, yet Khell comes on and defends Azathmaster in a roundabout way by voting him, bothers me to no end. It's one thing to poo-poo a connection. It's another thing to poo poo a connection by voting your alleged partner when YOU are receiving votes. But to defend your alleged partner by voting him when you yourself have received no votes?

As for others - I was suspicious of Blend at the first on day one, so I did a re-read. Will be interested to see a case, Tatts, because on my re-read I became less certain as his posts seemed more legit.

I can see Azathmaster as scum, but they are always low posting.

[Khellendros]

Shinrei, on 04 December 2012 - 10:08 PM, said:

Vote Khell

Since Gust isn't voting Khell, yet Khell comes on and defends Azathmaster in a roundabout way by voting him, bothers me to no end. It's one thing to poo-poo a connection. It's another thing to poo poo a connection by voting your alleged partner when YOU are receiving votes. But to defend your alleged partner by voting him when you yourself have received no votes?

As for others - I was suspicious of Blend at the first on day one, so I did a re-read. Will be interested to see a case, Tatts, because on my re-read I became less certain as his posts seemed more legit.

I can see Azathmaster as scum, but they are always low posting.

I voted Azath immediately to show how I felt about the connections Gust made, otherwise we might be debating it worthlessly the entire day. Oh, I guess we will now. And HO gets away again

Lynch me or Azath then if you must, and then afterwards try and be a bit more sensible.

Do you really think a killer partner would come out so quickly to 1) acknowledge the case, and 2) link themselves in such a way to their alleged partner? Shin, you clearly have a very poor opinion of me as a killer?

[Starling]

Poor KL, first game she's been able to play for ages and she's NKed first night. Sucky.

So, Tatts has a problem with me...

Tattersail, on 04 December 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

If you think me a symp then lynch me today, it'll screw us over if you leave it until D day and then lynch me.

Starling is a great shout for being scum. I'll see about a case in the morning

As far as I can tell, it's because I didn't respond to this post:

Tattersail, on 04 December 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

Starling, on 04 December 2012 - 02:04 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 04 December 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

Upon reading, my top picks (ho aside) are venge and bubba who are fake attacking each other for shits and giggles.

I got a similar vibe from the Em and Tatts spat earlier in the day.

Tatts, earlier you said you were pretty convinced that Em was scummy. What has made you change your mind?

My mind isn't changed but I cannot create a case properly yet. I agree with what Bubba said about Venge, about what Gusty said on Khell and I was keeping my eye on EM. I am looking for special connections and who isn't speaking to each other on thread.

and because he feels I was defending Venge. Who was innocent.

The problem I have with Tatts is that he bounced around all day dropping votes like it was going out of style. He got defensive whenever he was called out, which is why he labelled both myself and KL as scummy. He first brought up that he was willing to vote Venge 10 hours before time out, then left it another 5 hours before changing his vote, while at the same time saying he "didn't want to be the guy starting a new train with 5 hours to go". Also, his comment "If you think me a symp then lynch me today" (above), strikes me the wrong way. There is no advantage to town lynching a symp unless it's getting close to D-day and we need to reduce the scum voting block.

So I'm getting a symp vibe from Tatts. From the way his vote changed when Shin came on, I think Shin is one of the killers. I'll need to do a proper re-read before I can decide who I think the other killer is.

Vote Shinrei.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 32 hours and 21 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Azathmaster, Blend, Bubba, EmperorMagus, Gnaw, Gust Hubb, Hiddenone, Khellendros, Shinrei, Starling, Tattersail

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Azathmaster ( Gust Hubb, Khellendros )
1 Vote for Khellendros ( Shinrei )
1 Vote for Shinrei ( Starling )

Players not voted: Azathmaster, Blend, Bubba, EmperorMagus, Gnaw, Hiddenone, Tattersail


-Brujah

[Path-Shaper]

Thirteen shipwrecked survivors had carved out a nice living for themselves along the shoreline of this deserted island. They had pretty much all they needed to live semi-comfortably, and despite their obvious plight of being lost, things weren't so bad for the motley crew.

Of course, blood and broken bones tend to shatter even the strongest of bonds.

Of late, the group had heard whisperings in the darkest of the night. Something, or someone was no longer happy with the small society they'd worked so hard to build from wood and sand. Something evil had slowly crept into the peace they shared. And with it came the paranoia.

The previous day, the more outspoken of the group began pointing fingers, insisting that there was something wrong, and that it could only be that one or more of the survivors were no longer whom they seemed.

After much bickering and curses that would make the saltiest sailor flinch, they all fell upon the one most agreed to be the harbinger of whatever malice had infiltrated their small group.

His body swings from a tree, dead skin beaded by the salty mist that blows from across the choppy sea to wash over the island in a cool breeze.

They knew that night that they'd chosen wrongly. The evil could still be felt just as strong as before. Whispers in the dark still sent chills across their exposed skin. Once again, they knew one or more of them were still amongst them. They just felt it. And when they woke with the rising of the sun, and the squalling of gulls flying above, they no longer relied on 'feelings.' Another of them was dead.

Today they gathered in small clumps. A few here. Some there. None knew who to trust.

Besides a newly killed body, they had all seen a strange picture scratched into the sand near the fresh drinking water, as if it was placed somewhere it wouldn't go unnoticed. One by one, or some in groups, all wondered at its meaning.

Why had someone drawn what looked to be the likeness of one of the members of the group, and done so during the night.

Eventually they all felt they had more important things to worry about, and as water was drawn from the spring, the picture was scratched away by feet passing to and fro.

Today was indeed different. There was a killer or killers among the 'tribe.' They all set about doing their normal tasks that offered surviving of being stranded on this island.

One of them had begun digging holes in various parts of the sand. Whatever they were hoping to find, no one knew. Maybe it was just a way to pass the time.

One of the stranded seemed far more upset at the death that occurred that night. Was it a sensitivity to that sort of thing in general, or was it something more. There had obviously been a closer bond between that saddened face, and the murdered friend than they'd known.

One peculiar individual went into the forest and felled a thin sapling, and with a large clam shell he'd sharpened on the rocks, began to whittle away at the tip of the lengthy shaft of wood until it was Sharp enough to skewer a boar. Or a person.

The sun rose to a point not yet half way up the sky. It was still early on the second day after the strange events had changed the dynamics of this once peaceful group of survivors.

Survivors. That was still to be seen.

-Brujah

[Gust Hubb]

Khellendros, on 04 December 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

Shinrei, on 04 December 2012 - 10:08 PM, said:

Vote Khell

Since Gust isn't voting Khell, yet Khell comes on and defends Azathmaster in a roundabout way by voting him, bothers me to no end. It's one thing to poo-poo a connection. It's another thing to poo poo a connection by voting your alleged partner when YOU are receiving votes. But to defend your alleged partner by voting him when you yourself have received no votes?

As for others - I was suspicious of Blend at the first on day one, so I did a re-read. Will be interested to see a case, Tatts, because on my re-read I became less certain as his posts seemed more legit.

I can see Azathmaster as scum, but they are always low posting.

I voted Azath immediately to show how I felt about the connections Gust made, otherwise we might be debating it worthlessly the entire day. Oh, I guess we will now. And HO gets away again

Lynch me or Azath then if you must, and then afterwards try and be a bit more sensible.

Do you really think a killer partner would come out so quickly to 1) acknowledge the case, and 2) link themselves in such a way to their alleged partner? Shin, you clearly have a very poor opinion of me as a killer?

I am afraid voting for Azath won't even remotely clear your name. I actually made a case against my killer partner Tats during the last game I was paired with him. Paired killers will do what is necessary to keep at least one of themselves alive to kill another night.

[Gust Hubb]

I'm not sure what you are doing Shin (or Starling for that matter). Shin, you seem to support my case against Azath, but use that as a jumping point to go after khells. Starling, you spend a whole post casting aspersion on Tats and then vote Shin. Is this a game where we vote tangentially to our cases?

[Shinrei]

Tatts might be playing spastically, but hes not stupid. What you describe starling would be some truly foolish symping.

remove vote

Since khell pointed out im accusing him of being dumb when he clearly isnt . Crazy he is, but not dumb.

[Starling]

Ooooohkay.

So we have reference to our two dead innos, something about a picture in the sand, and two people singled out. The person with a spear could either be the killer (I've been running on the assumption that there are two, but there could only be one) or a vig.

[Gust Hubb]

I would question there being hints in the PS's text.

[Shinrei]

Gust Hubb, on 04 December 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

I'm not sure what you are doing Shin (or Starling for that matter). Shin, you seem to support my case against Azath, but use that as a jumping point to go after khells. Starling, you spend a whole post casting aspersion on Tats and then vote Shin. Is this a game where we vote tangentially to our cases?

I think you are misinterpreting my vote. I figured khell was using azath as cover. I wasnt necessarily supporting your case.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 31 hours and 54 minutes remaining

11 Players still alive: Azathmaster, Blend, Bubba, EmperorMagus, Gnaw, Gust Hubb, Hiddenone, Khellendros, Shinrei, Starling, Tattersail

6 votes to lynch, 6 votes to go to night.

2 Votes for Azathmaster ( Gust Hubb, Khellendros )
1 Vote for Shinrei ( Starling )

Players not voted: Azathmaster, Blend, Bubba, EmperorMagus, Gnaw, Hiddenone, Shinrei, Tattersail

-Brujah

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 December 2012 - 11:15 PM

[Khellendros]

Starling, on 04 December 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

Ooooohkay.

So we have reference to our two dead innos, something about a picture in the sand, and two people singled out. The person with a spear could either be the killer (I've been running on the assumption that there are two, but there could only be one) or a vig.

Well, IF we're supposed to take something from that, then I would suggest that it's hinting that KL was a part of a lover pair.

And the picture in the sand could refer to the fact that Tats' avatar was shown in one of PS' posts?


Sixty said there would be some roles, but I don't know if that means there would be something different from the norm.

[Starling]

Gust Hubb, on 04 December 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

I'm not sure what you are doing Shin (or Starling for that matter). Shin, you seem to support my case against Azath, but use that as a jumping point to go after khells. Starling, you spend a whole post casting aspersion on Tats and then vote Shin. Is this a game where we vote tangentially to our cases?

So, you're suggesting I vote for the person I think is a symp?

Based on Tatts' play, I think he's a symp. The trick then is to figure out who he's symping. From the way he changed when Shin came on, I think he's symping Shin. Which would make Shin a killer, therefore I voted for him.

[Starling]

Gust Hubb, on 04 December 2012 - 11:10 PM, said:

I would question there being hints in the PS's text.

If there are no hints, why the text at all? Otherwise, it's totally superfluous to the game.

I also like that reference to people digging themselves holes Although it's entirely possible that one of those people is me...