[QuickTidal]

Salt-Man Z, on 21 December 2015 - 05:38 PM, said:

Hey Scott, do you have a link to the JJ quotes? (Or what is the source, exactly?) I want to share them on Tor.com, but I'd be more credible if I knew where they were from.

Yeah, hang on. I grabbed the relevant bit from a post on TF.N....but I think the link is there. Let me grab it.

Here you go man.

[QuickTidal]

And here is official site confirmation that Greg Grunberg's character in TFA, "Snap" Wexley the X-Wing pilot on Poe's squadron, is indeed Temmin Wexley from the Chuck Wendig AFTERMATH novel where he was a teenager.

[amphibian]

Hey, Ben is a great name.

(It's my name)

I do have one question: Is fuel/power a consideration for ships/droids besides the Starkiller? Does everything have a limitless nuke reactor inside it?

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amphibian, on 21 December 2015 - 06:14 PM, said:

Hey, Ben is a great name.

(It's my name)

I do have one question: Is fuel/power a consideration for ships/droids besides the Starkiller? Does everything have a limitless nuke reactor inside it?

As far as I know, droids need to recharge. Not sure if they plug in to do this or not. Like I assume that while an astromech is in a ship and connected, it's recharging like an iPod in a dock. But I'm pretty sure they recharge. I think the charge they have is VERY longlived though. Like a fully charged C3PO could probably go for weeks on one charge?

Ships in the Star Wars Universe are pretty universally powered by Ion Drives.

[Morgoth]

Traders, one would think. There are plenty of traders in the SW universe.

[amphibian]

It's probably more like 5 under their control.

I'll bet the rest of the remainder are now local system defense fleet capital ships or mercenaries.

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amphibian, on 21 December 2015 - 07:43 PM, said:

It's probably more like 5 under their control.

I'll bet the rest of the remainder are now local system defense fleet capital ships or mercenaries.

This is my guess as well. Since Coruscant was liberated after Jakku, I'd imagine that the New Republic absolutely re purposed the ones under their territory and control. It makes sense.

Also Just found this out: The Finalizer (Hux's Destroyer from TFA) is a brand new class of ISD associated with the First Order, and not the old Empire. It's called a Regulator Class Star Destroyer.

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Briar King, on 21 December 2015 - 08:24 PM, said:

I meant just for Remnant. Hell that just seems low. Pelleaon had over 200.

Is there Galaxy maps like we had in NJO in new books? Is Remnant space bigger or smaller from EU?

The galaxy maps, so far, don't show factions territory, just planets.

You CAN, however know that if the First Order territory includes where Starkiller Base's origin point is, (where Ilum was during the Clone Wars), then they are FAR from the center of the Old Republic as you can see. Sidenote: Though we know that Dathomir (top right), and Moraband (Sith homeworld; topmost right) are more than likely under First Order control. No doubt that Snoke would have wanted those worlds in his dominion.

[QuickTidal]

From a recent Collider interview:

Spoiler

On that scene with Han and Kylo.

Han Solo is dead. And at the hand of his own son, no less! Indeed, while Solo’s death kind of felt inevitable within the context of the film, especially given the finality of Ford’s last scene with Carrie Fisher, the execution of the death scene and the performances of Ford and Adam Driver were stellar, resulting in a pretty spectacular Star Wars moment.

But how did this come to pass? When did J.J. Abrams decide he was going to kill Han Solo? Not for a while, actually. At a WGA screening of The Force Awakens this weekend, Abrams, co-writer Lawrence Kasdan, and screenwriter Michael Arndt—who wrote the initial drafts of The Force Awakens before Abrams and Kasdan took over scripting duties—participated in a Q&A (via Entertainment Weekly) where they addressed the climactic scene in which Ben Solo kills his father, Han. Kasdan began by addressing the thematic draw of the Star Wars saga as a whole:

“People always say, ‘Why do you think this saga is so popular? I really do believe the underlying theme is recognizing your potential and understanding what you’re capable of. It doesn’t end. To understand what you’ve inherited, and what you like about that and what you don’t like about that. Have you fulfilled yourself completely — or is it too late. What is dormant? That’s a very real and tangible thing for people every day.”

To that end, Kylo Ren is realizing his full potential in killing his father—it just happens to be for the Dark Side, not the Light. As Abrams tells it, he always wanted to craft a story that was as much about the evolution of the new trlogy’s villain as it was about its heroes:

“Long before we had this title, the idea of The Force Awakens was that this would become the evolution of not just a hero, but a villain. And not a villain who was the finished, ready-made villain, but someone who was in process.”

Abrams and Co. knew they had the looming shadow of Darth Vader hanging over their heads, so the only way they could feasibly top him was to get ambitious:

“Star Wars had the greatest villain in cinema history. So, how you bring a new villain into that world is a very tricky thing. We knew we needed to do something fucking bold. The only reason why Kylo Ren has any hope of being a worthy successor is because we lose one of the most beloved characters.”

But it wasn’t immediately clear that their trajectory would be leading them to the murder of Han Solo. Arndt revealed that in his initial drafts of the script, Kylo Ren was simply the wedge that forced the Original Trilogy apart following Return of the Jedi:

“In my early drafts, my thinking was we had to bridge the end of Return of the Jedi to what happens in this movie, and we didn’t want everybody to start off all together. We wanted them to be spread all throughout the galaxy. We came up with a backstory that Luke had a pupil who turned against him and fought him, and killed all the other pupils, and that was a thing that exploded the family and destroyed Han and Leia’s relationship.”

In those drafts, Episode VII ended with the reconciliation between Han and Leia, but Abrams rightly pointed out that this iteration of the story made Han Solo a superfluous character:

“I had thought Han’s story and Leia’s story was just about them coming back together. At the end of the movie they would have reconciled and gotten over their differences. And you would have said, ‘Okay, bad stuff happened, but at least they’re back together again. J.J. rightly asked, ‘What is Han doing in this movie?’ If we’re not going to have something important and irreversible happen to him, then he kind of feels like luggage. He feels like this great, sexy piece of luggage you have in your movie. But he’s not really evolving. He’s not really pushing the story forward.”


As Abrams recalls, it was a tough decision to make, but ultimately the right one for the story they wanted to tell:

“[Han Solo’s death is] this massive tradeoff. How can we possible do that!? But… if we hadn’t done that, the movie wouldn’t have any guts at all. It felt very dangerous.”

The killing of Han Solo acts as the full birth of Kylo Ren, with the character proving to himself that he’s destined for the Dark Side. And yet it’s followed by this tender moment with a father touching his son’s face in his final moments. It’s this and Driver’s brilliantly complex performance that gives us hope that Kylo Ren could be one of (if not the) all-time great Star Wars villains, and his patricide only complicates his story/emotions further. In this way, the return of Han Solo is fully justified and sets the stage for a fantastic trajectory in the next two sequels.

Considering Kylo is easily my fave new character (JUST eeking out Rey for that title in my head) this info just confirms how strong not only that scene is, but why Driver is so compelling while not being a fully realized villain...yet.

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[Cause]

Spoiler

The felling that those people deserved to have their planets nuked from orbit should never be possible to have and yet if the republic really believes in having no miitary or spies I think I do

[Obdigore]

QuickTidal, on 21 December 2015 - 08:00 PM, said:

Also Just found this out: The Finalizer (Hux's Destroyer from TFA) is a brand new class of ISD associated with the First Order, and not the old Empire. It's called a Regulator Class Star Destroyer.

I mean... Yea it looks different from the normal Star Destroyers we saw in the original 3. The Shield Gennies are different, there is more to the superstructure, more 'steppes to the temple' as it were...

I assumed it was just supposed to be a natural continuation of ship tech...

Also, WTF is with Kylo's ship. Is it supposed to look like an anemic bird of prey or what? It looks like a Lambada Class Shuttle had a baby with a Harrier Jet. Extendable wings that don't really save space while landed? WTF is the point?

[amphibian]

Why aren't the ships droids too?

I realize this is a made up universe, but at some point, they're going to have to dip into the gigantic and malevolent artificial intelligence enemy well, right?

[Tsundoku]

Obdigore, on 21 December 2015 - 10:31 PM, said:

Also, WTF is with Kylo's ship. Is it supposed to look like an anemic bird of prey or what? It looks like a Lambada Class Shuttle had a baby with a Harrier Jet. Extendable wings that don't really save space while landed? WTF is the point?

Is this the Lambada class you're looking for ...

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[worry]

I could've sworn it was forbidden.

[amphibian]

I'm going to figure out a way to watch Ski School tonight.

I was referencing it just last night to my friend.

[worry]

Dean Cameron's face should be on all the money printed from 1985 to 1995.

[worry]

did your kids like it?

[Nevyn]

Not much more to add here, other than, if you have to explain the map thing in the press, its because you did a crappy job explaining it in the movie.

[worry]

Logic holds up. Let's put an end to Q&As.

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Nevyn, on 22 December 2015 - 05:09 AM, said:

Not much more to add here, other than, if you have to explain the map thing in the press, its because you did a crappy job explaining it in the movie.

No. This is Kasdan and Abrams letting you figure it out what bits are important as an audience yourself. You get dropped into the story and their job as writer is to give you enough to infer the elements to get the story they are telling. Knowing that R2 got the map from the Imperial archives is an easter egg...NOT a needed bit of info. Should you need to know where R2 acquired the map in the grand scheme of things? No. The fact that they let that bit be ambiguous isn't doing a crappy job explaing the movie, it's having faith that your audience aren't a bunch of morons.