[Gnaw]

ah. ok. thought maybe it was an early morning error. sorry for doubting you.
bit of a mind-twiste? bit?
And sorry for bothering TattersIl and Tapper.
Hahaha. Just had a thought. That may just may cause Liosan to re-think his perfectly accurate faceless man theory.
Now that makes me chuckle. Considerering how much sweat he made pour.

This post has been edited by Gnaw: 27 September 2012 - 02:50 AM

[Gnaw]

Path-Shaper, on 27 September 2012 - 02:33 AM, said:

@Gnaw

I am going to post a scene later where they discover the body of the paymaster. Maybe a bit of a mind-twister

I was sitting here watching Leverage re-runs and thinking how I would have reacted to a second Hannya the assassin is dead CF.
Has a holy site ever been struck by lightning moments after your passed?
Has a furnace ever ignited upon you entering the room?
Has any medical personnel ever told you your blood pressure was zero over zero?
Has an immediate family member ever suggested strongly that you were adopted?
Then you might be an........

G'night all.

Great game btw. And thank you for putting up with my massive number of mistakes.
A multi-party game involving both cooperative and non-cooperative elements with asymmetrical information. I wonder if a John Nash student invented mafia?

[Tattersail_]

Gnaw, on 27 September 2012 - 02:45 AM, said:

ah. ok. thought maybe it was an early morning error. sorry for doubting you.
bit of a mind-twiste? bit?
And sorry for bothering TattersIl and Tapper.
Hahaha. Just had a thought. That may just may cause Liosan to re-think his perfectly accurate faceless man theory.
Now that makes me chuckle. Considerering how much sweat he made pour.

I was Emur night one then died. No problem with me You played well

[EmperorMagus]

Dammit.dammit.dammit.

I don't know why I had to go after an assassin? And a FM at that.

But it was very fun. Knowing your gut feelings are good.

[EmperorMagus]

And we may have a good mate for Bru in Gnaw!

[Path-Shaper]

Gnaw, on 27 September 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 27 September 2012 - 02:33 AM, said:

@Gnaw

I am going to post a scene later where they discover the body of the paymaster. Maybe a bit of a mind-twister

I was sitting here watching Leverage re-runs and thinking how I would have reacted to a second Hannya the assassin is dead CF.
Has a holy site ever been struck by lightning moments after your passed?
Has a furnace ever ignited upon you entering the room?
Has any medical personnel ever told you your blood pressure was zero over zero?
Has an immediate family member ever suggested strongly that you were adopted?
Then you might be an........

G'night all.

Great game btw. And thank you for putting up with my massive number of mistakes.
A multi-party game involving both cooperative and non-cooperative elements with asymmetrical information. I wonder if a John Nash student invented mafia?

Hey, I'll be honest with you, I thought you did great. Your only real "mistake" was your use of bulletpoints as D'riss, which is something veterans or particularly sharp newbies will pick up on. If you're ever a faceless man again (which is a rare role, so I wouldn't count on it anytime soon), just remember to alter your posting style accordingly.

[Path-Shaper]

Well, TBH I thought Korv would be on everyone's list, but they've got him associated with a clan rather than an assassin it seems. I would not have predicted Emur as the target du jour. But that's good for the Ouchi and the Amako. If they lynch Emur, there is no kill tonight, meaning Day 6 is huge. And if they lynch a Hosokawa or Korv Day 6, it will REALLY get interesting.

The Hosokawa are in great shape, but stranger things have happened (see Chapter 2).

[Path-Shaper]

Korv is right, and if Emur is lynched, he is the winning assassin.

Korvalain, on 27 September 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

OK.

The only person I currently suspect for assassin # 5 is Emurlahn. But I worry about my suspicions, I am hoping something will come out in the wash. I am thinking I am just gonna see how Day 5 rolls out and go with the flow. Hopefully I can suss out whoever that (hopefully) last assassin is.

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan has picked Tellan as his contract choice. If lynched, Sorrit.

Great pick! Wipe out the Hosokawa Leader. Too bad no assassins are active tonight...

[Path-Shaper]

For the record:

Spite successfully found the remaining assassin last night, but the rule is you can't have 2 assassins on payroll. Why? Because it would make it nearly impossible for them to kill each other and fulfill their own VCs. It was only meant as a slight advantage/disadvantage depending on which side of the recruitment you're on.

[Path-Shaper]

Veteran play

Liosan, on 27 September 2012 - 11:10 AM, said:

Also, for SH:

When I called out Tellan for being a leader, I was serious. I then dropped it in the hope that Tellan thinks I'm on their team and does not target me, but I hope other people (assasins) notice and kill Tellan.

Meanas noticed maybe?

Meanas, on 27 September 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

ok, be a little while

Provisional just in case

Fener Tellan

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 27 September 2012 - 12:54 PM

[EmperorMagus]

Obdi is a little scary when playing.

[Path-Shaper]

EmperorMagus, on 27 September 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

Obdi is a little scary when playing.

He's being really low-key in comparison with usual.

[Path-Shaper]

Emurlahn, on 27 September 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

I'm here, don't lynch me. Looks like this is going down, so I'll give ya'll some information from the scene.

Path-Shaper, on 26 September 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

The paymaster's shed lay in darkness, a black swirling mist which seemed like a deeper hole in the blackness of the night.

The Goblin1 perched on the edge of the roof and dropped in through a narrow window that would have been sufficient to keep out a small child. Landing lightly on the earthen floor of the shed, it paused. A blade scraped free of a scabbard and the white skull of a demon2 emerged from the gloom, pausing as well.

The distance between them was less than a meter, but it was nearly as effective as a wall. Neither moved. Neither seemed to breath.
And that's when the Shadow3 came to life. Boiling out from the back of the shed, it engulfed the two in their standoff. Everything became a blur of motion. Shadow attacked Demon, Demon parried and stabbed towards the Goblin. Goblin leapt into the air and performed a half flip to gather its legs under it. Pushing off of the ceiling it surged downward. The Demon spun and hammered at the Shadow with a double overhead blow. There was a scream, and suddenly where there had been shadow, a man coalesced. A long sword split its skull from the front, held by the demon, and a cruelly curved scythe pushed through his neck from behind, held by the Goblin.4

Again, there was a pause, and the air fairly crackled with animosity. And a promise.

Slowly, both of the remaining combatants drew slowly backwards. The body of their third adversary slid noiselessly to the ground.
In moments, they were gone. 5

But the promise remained.

'

1. The Goblin = Assassin number 1.
2. The demon - assassin number 2
3. The shadow = assassin number 3
4. The Demon and Goblin both attacked the Shadow, killing him.
5. there are two assassins left. The goblin, and the demon.
6. Working with your assumption that all the assassins are an FM or alt jumpers of some kind, of the two assassins remaining, one has 1 (hannya) alt and the other has 2.'



So there is no need to lynch a known assassin at this point. Got it? Also no need to allow them to be killed at night. They just want the other dead, no faction worries.


I am willing to vote anywhere but me.

This is a really good post. He's effectively outed himself without actually revealing (aka modkillable offense). He's trying to play to faction logic that they don't need to lynch him, but rather go after a faction member.

Problem is, conventional wisdom is when you have an FM in a game, you LYNCH them. I know Obdi will want to. People don't know how/when he can jump again, so it's risky to keep him around. I don't know, this could go either way and it's probably the only chance he has to save himself. BALLSY, if you consider he outed himself to the other assassin as well.

[Gnaw]

Path-Shaper, on 27 September 2012 - 08:32 AM, said:

Hey, I'll be honest with you, I thought you did great. Your only real "mistake" was your use of bulletpoints as D'riss, which is something veterans or particularly sharp newbies will pick up on. If you're ever a faceless man again (which is a rare role, so I wouldn't count on it anytime soon), just remember to alter your posting style accordingly.

Thanks for that.

The D'riss "oops wrong thread." was a major blunder.
It was a post supposed to be under the Mockra alt. That mentally screwed me. I managed to FOD myself to death.

[Gnaw]

Path-Shaper, on 27 September 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

EmperorMagus, on 27 September 2012 - 12:33 PM, said:

Obdi is a little scary when playing.

He's being really low-key in comparison with usual.

Obdi was the very first mistake I made. Ignored a swag because it was my first suppostion. Then i never followed up on it. From my notes.
Night 1:
Hosakawa contract. Fener, Emurlahn, D'riss
A late check-in. And low posters?
If LP, then why these 2.
If trimming no-posters or late check-ins, why not Olar and / or Liosan?
A late poster picking basically random targets? That makes Liosan a prime for Hoso leader.

[Gnaw]

Damn. Brujah is good.


I did not mean to make you think I implied that you were an assassin. In fact, if we're down to one assassin, I'm not really too concerned with him. I think with 16 starting players, that 4 seems like to highest number of assassins possible. I also think we may have zero left. Either way, if it is only one, I don't think we have to worry about him NKing any of us. If he leaves the factions alone, they would be closer to ending the game by ignoring him, not wasting a lynch, and going for each others factions instead. If an assassins is left, and NKs any faction, then he'd just invite us to come after him.
In summary, I didn't mean to make you think I thought you were an assassin. I just thought it would be raiser to continue hunting for Ouchi based off the Galain lynch. Also, you said I was 'still' gunning for you, but this is the first time I voted for you. I'd much rather go after Spite, but no one else voted for him after I did last night, so I figured trying for you.
If you, or anyone else, has a better option, please let me know. It's not as if I'm dead positive that you're not in my faction, but everyone seems to be afraid to vote or make cases in fear of mistakingly hitting a team member, and I don't feel that's helping. We all have to take some risks to get anywhere.
What do you think about people believing that a captain was the possible leader of a faction?

[Gnaw]

I am quite sad to see how intelligent the game has become without me.

[Gnaw]

EmperorMagus, on 27 September 2012 - 07:41 AM, said:

Dammit.dammit.dammit.

I don't know why I had to go after an assassin? And a FM at that.

But it was very fun. Knowing your gut feelings are good.

Well, if it makes you feel any better Liosan/Obdigore was what got you killed. I had to bury his FM theory with lots of posts of baffle them with bullshit. And he didn't get back online in time to swing the votes back to D'riss, which he would have done in one post.

[Gnaw]

Path-Shaper, on 26 September 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

It is Day 4, 1 hour and 8 minutes are left at lynch.
12 players are left alive.

D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan

7 votes to lynch, 6 to go to night.
3 Votes D'riss: Liosan, Sorrit, Osseric7 Votes Osseric: Spite, Tellan, Korvalain, Karosis, D'riss, Emurlahn, Meanas1 Vote Spite: Fener

Players not voting: Olar Ethil.

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From my notes:
Holy mindfucks batman.
Osseric (EmperorMagus) is dead. He was Tomuhisa, Lieutenant of the Amako clan.
Spite, Tellan, Korvalain, Karosis, D'riss, Emurlahn, Meanas
That means all of those of those votes counted. No puppets there!!!!
Liosan, Sorrit, Fener, Osseric, and Olar are the only puppet possibles.

Now I was dead wrong about the puppets. It hadn't occurred to me that the others would all be puppetless at this point.
But it just occurred to me that JLV/Korbas/Emurlahn could have possibly used it to save his ass.
"I can't be a FM because my vote counted. The FM must be (whomever he thought was weakest)." Still might not have worked but ...