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Posted 21 September 2012 - 02:33 PM

Meanas, on 21 September 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

You trying to make me nervous, Shin? Maybe one of my minions has been recruited or something?


My day scene made him nervous. Tee hee. The information in the scenes is meant to become more and more explicit, although I don't want to make it impossible for the assassins to keep their secrets.



Sorrit, on 21 September 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

lets see if meanas got that admonished line, hopefully its not too obvious a sign so everyone sees in...



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Posted 21 September 2012 - 02:34 PM

Emurlahn, on 21 September 2012 - 01:30 AM, said:

Emurlahn posting times:

6:45 am
6:46 am
6:40am
10:25am
10:29
10:30
10:44
10:45
4:24am


Important posts w/ positions

View PostEmurlahn, on 19 September 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 19 September 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on 19 September 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 19 September 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 19 September 2012 - 03:19 AM, said:

Second. So who do we go after day one? Or do we just do the japansex thing today?


Odd question. Why do you ask who we go after when you're in the first two posters? Especially strange in a faction game, imo.



I thought it odd too


I guess he was trying to deflect attention . find a suitable lynch target so that you yourself will not be lynched .(Important role not wanting to die on his faction ?)





A defence of Karosis from Osseric?

View PostEmurlahn, on 19 September 2012 - 02:44 PM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 19 September 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 19 September 2012 - 02:30 PM, said:

View PostOsseric, on 19 September 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on 19 September 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 19 September 2012 - 02:06 PM, said:

View PostKarosis, on 19 September 2012 - 03:19 AM, said:

Second. So who do we go after day one? Or do we just do the japansex thing today?


Odd question. Why do you ask who we go after when you're in the first two posters? Especially strange in a faction game, imo.



I thought it odd too


I guess he was trying to deflect attention . find a suitable lynch target so that you yourself will not be lynched .(Important role not wanting to die on his faction ?)





A defence of Karosis from Osseric?

Sure.


Fair enough.


View PostEmurlahn, on 20 September 2012 - 08:24 AM, said:

My posting is going to be low at best the next day or so I'm travelling. I've read up but not got much chance to post my thoughts, posting from phone here which means quoting is a bitch. I can see why people want to vote eloth, it seems like he is digging a deeper hole each time he posts. I'll try come back later



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Posted 21 September 2012 - 02:45 PM

Korvalain, on 21 September 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

Speculation on the latest scene:

I am thinking that Galain was the Amako paymaster dude, which means that the general is getting weird vibes from him (seeing as he's my puppet).

I'm still not sure where the Hosokawa thing comes in though, as I did my contract for the Amako the other day. I am thinking that it's just a completely unrelated scene, probably a contract for hire.


Korv (blend) is on the right track, just the wrong scene.
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 09:16 PM

The assassins aren't doing a very good job of laying low are they. All three of the original assasin alts are under heat for being an assassin. Korbas is the only one to be in the clear as he is now Emur and if Mockra is smart he'll pull a faceless man move tonight if he avoids a lynch so then if Mockra ends up dieing then he'll save his own skin.
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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:43 PM

Yeah, Mockra needs to get out of Mockra.

And you're right, the assassins seem to be screaming I'm an assassin at everyone. :rolleyes:

Here's some interesting speculation by D'riss/Mockra/Gnaw

D, on 21 September 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

I'm very shaky as to the order of night kill resolutions. I'll use people names so you can't accidentally give out any info.

Harry gets a contract with 3 names Peter, Paul, and Mary.
Jimi gets the same contract.
Eric has one with the names Harry, Janis, and Tom
Harry Kill Mary. Inhabit Mary.
Jimi Kill Mary. But no soul shift.
Eric Kill Harry. Inhabit Harry.
How would all that resolve? Based on times sent or your choice?
As an aside, and no comment from you expected, I think I goofed; spoofing D'riss is going to be harder than I thought. Should have offed Fener.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 11:00 PM

Korv/blend is having fun:

Korvalain, on 21 September 2012 - 03:06 PM, said:

Heeheeeheeeeeee!!! I am having so much fun with this puppet alts thing!




Korvalain, on 21 September 2012 - 07:38 PM, said:

Alright, so, Galain vote on me is a gamble. I am hoping that it makes Mockra look more suspicious by association so that people vote that way instead of my way. Osseric has a good point, and I figured that my case on Eloth would come back to bite me in the ass. Fingers crossed this Galain thing works.

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 12:07 AM

Korvalain, on 21 September 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

View PostSorrit, on 21 September 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

caught up but im pretty tired so bare with me for the fuzzy thinking.

am I right in thinking that the korv vote is because he is an assassin?

mokras vote is for his contradictions and his attack on karosis for being clever?

I think its a little daft to be trying to get rid of someone because they look to be doing to good a job this early in the game.
If you are pretty sure that there not on your team, I suppose it makes sense. you don't want a decent enemy player dictating lynches when there's only a few players left... and for all I know karosis could be an enemy faction to me so i see the threat. or he could be on my team or an assassin or anything.

I didnt think much of galains symping till he voted for korv, either korv and korabas are both assassins (in which case galain is probably the fourth ) or he wants to shift attention from mockra (which means mockra is probably a leader)

Then again I don't like the idea that the assassins all know each other so quickly, eloth hinted at a find ability, maybe that was to help them find each other?

nor do I see the point in an assassin hunt as it wont help me win. yes its a safe lynch as it wont kill off my team, but its not going to advance my teams chances either, nor is it likely to give me any real leads on finding out the teams

Im off to bed, im not going to be back online in time for the lynch.
on the assumption my fuzzy thinking is roughly on the right track I shall
vote mockra


mainly because of galains sympage, i could be wrong but that points to a leader role and as he isnt my leader its worth a vote



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Korvalain, on 21 September 2012 - 11:51 PM, said:

Mockra's gonna be so pissed at me, I think. Hehehehe. I am feeling great about myself now, and I think Emurlahn just made enough of a slip that I will be able to link him to Mockra tomorrow. Not gonna count my eggs before they hatch, but like I said, I am feeling pretty great about myself right now. Osseric is the only one who seems to be interested in me as a possible assassin, so all I really need to worry about is ending up on other assassins' kill lists. *fingers crossed*

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 04:52 AM

Just for my reference.

Emurlahn is Hannya, and Korbas is his puppet.

D'riss is Kage-za, and he has no puppet.

Korvalain is Tengu, and his puppet is Galain



Spite recruits Emurlahn, so Hannya can now only accept contracts from the Hosokawa.
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Posted 22 September 2012 - 05:04 AM

Actions:

Day/Night 3

Hosokawa
Tellan General Targets - Emurlah, Osseric, D'riss
Karosis Captain
Olar Ethil Lieutenant Heal Tellan until further notice
Spite Paymaster Provisional recruit in this order: Fener Korvalain Meanas

Ouchi
Meanas General - Target = Karosis, Tellan
Sorrit Lieutenant Heal Meanas

Amako
Liosan General
Fener Captain
Osseric Lieutenant Heal Liosan

Korvalain Assassin - Accept Amako Contract
Galain Puppet

Emurlahn Assassin - Accept Hosokawa Contract (no choice)
Korbas Puppet

D'riss Assasin - Accept Amako Contract, if leader lynched, Ouchi
Puppet None

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 05:07 AM

Note on CFs.

Korv cannot leap, so his puppets CF as the people he killed. Only he can CF as Tengu.

Puppets of Hannya and Kage-za CF as the Assassin, every time. If one of the dies for real, their puppet collapses and CFs as necessary.
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 03:44 AM

I'm a bit confused. Did the NK on me resolve before my recruit?
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 04:53 AM

Gnaw is having fun, posting a lot of stuff:

D, on 24 September 2012 - 02:13 AM, said:

Really are out to get you? :rolleyes:
Sorta funny that I know Fener was on a list, and that he is one of the possible candidates for the noncounted vote, and immediately after I post, he posts:
Even though it was short, I think Sixty played well. I didn't really see much of a case against him, but I'm glad others did. I voted for him to help get a lynch, and because he voted for me. I was just hoping that someone voting for me might have a slightly higher chance of not being in my faction, since everyone knows one person. Still, kudos to Sixty.
If he's a puppet then most likely whoever is running him suspects me.
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D, on 23 September 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

Comment then a question.

  • I looked at the sign up page and my message to Bliss.
  • Sent 16 September 2012 - 01:53 PM. I'd like to take a crack at It if you're willing to accept a complete neophyte. If so please point me to the most relevant game threads to read up on. If you prefer vets, that's cool too
  • Sent 16 September 2012 - 04:50 PM

    Always good to have new people join!
    This is going to be a faction game, so while there is lynching, there may not be night kills and there will be recruiting. There should be at least 2 faction leaders, and you typically get a pm telling you that you have been recruited to another team. My advice is to read the rules posted in the OP carefully, and feel free to pm Path-Shaper if you have any questions.
    She knew you were running the game PRIOR to my PM which means: That bitch :twoguns:. She was playing me before the game had even started!

  • I'm reading a previous games SH. You game mods get far more messages from players than I ever would have imagined. So I will repost this in case you missed it. Then won't bother anymore assuming it's info I should already know, should figure out on my own, or you are simply not going to tell me. :twoguns: I'm very shaky as to the order of night kill resolutions. I'll use people names so you can't accidentally give out any info.

  • Harry gets a contract with 3 names - Peter, Paul, and Mary.
    Jimi gets the same contract.
    Eric has one with the names - Harry, Janis, and Tom
    Harry orders - Kill Mary. Inhabit Mary.
    Jimi orders - Kill Mary. But no soul shift.
    Eric orders- Kill Harry. Inhabit Harry.
    How would all that resolve? Based on times sent or your choice?





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Posted 24 September 2012 - 04:53 AM

@Sixty

I am resolving kills before recruits. Sorry for any confusion.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 01:48 PM

Interesting...Meanas doesn't know he's missing two team members, but he still has only chosen 1 name for contract. Too bad the assassins are ignoring him.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 09:53 PM

D, on 24 September 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

Amako contract unless Amoko leader is lynched then Ouchi contract please.
Once a lynch CF is shown, it's night and too late to change contracts right? Can contract requests be conditional? I.e. I think Galain is a good candidate to be a faction leader and also looks to be high on everyone's lynch list. So is the above acceptable?
I figure the leaders have got to be a bit baffled. Nobody in their contracts were hit as far as they can see (depending upon how much info they have.). I know D'riss and one other were offed, one of the 8 Mockra voters was one. I'm leaning towards it being Fener because he's gone from low poster to whiny high poster and I know he was on a list. Coupled with the fact D'riss was on the same list, Fener's "Sixty played well....kudos to Sixty." coming right after a D'riss post.


Your conditional prov is fine.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:01 PM

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Emurlahn, on 24 September 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

Also, Korvalain is either Khell or Brujah or another high poster. Brujah is laying low, which means he's something bad. Gotta kill them if I get the chance. Still want Fener first, though.


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D, on 24 September 2012 - 05:33 PM, said:

I see that at least some mods post player thoughts and reasoning in SH. Do so or not, I'm still going to send you this stuff so at least you can tell me my errors post game.

If you want me to stop doing this please say so.

Mockra lynch: Spite, Korvalain, Korbas, Olar Ethl, Sorrit, Emurlahn, Fener, Osseric. Korosis being last, vote counted.

Fener and Emurlahn were on the Hosokawa list. Fener is acting mighty strangely. Best bet for simulacrum ATM.

Monday noon. My ideal lynch candidates are: Galain, Korosis (might tie me to Mockra, hope for a contract on him), Liosan (low poster, but then so is D'riss)

Preference for NK (depends upon my contract of course)Korvalain seems to me to be best bet for an assassinKorbas. Probable assassin as wellKorosis faction leader?Galain faction leader?

Must think about whether to soul shift or not.Also, which of my fellow assassins have or have not shifted Ones that haven't might do so this night. At least that's how I'd do it.


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Osseric, on 24 September 2012 - 05:06 PM, said:

Dammit, if Liosan dies of lowposting , I'm gonna hunt his ass down in the games after.(not that I'm very good at it) . but its second time in a row for my Leader to get killed because of low posting.


Osseric, on 24 September 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

I don't know how Tattersail plays ,but I'm pretty sure that Korv is tattersail . dunno why.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:05 PM

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Tellan, on 24 September 2012 - 09:39 PM, said:

Gosh, that train built quickly! I think in part because Galain isn't defending himself at all, and continues to go blindly after Korbas. My current thinking is that Galain is the faction leader, in which case this is going to kick of a culture hunt. So my picks for the people in Galain's faction are going to be my contract list

- Emurlahn
- Osseric
- D'riss

Also, SPITE. WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! He is going to be the first to go once Galain is lynched, and I'm not sure there is anything I can do to save him except direct the lynch to someone else.

And another thing, what is stopping the assasins from assasinating people? From what I understand, they are given a contract list, and they pick from that who they want to off. But they aren't connected to anyone on those lists, they aren't part of a faction and I doubt they would know who is in what faction, and they want to kill assasins. So unless they are waiting for an assasin's name to come up, why are they not happily killing off faction members?

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:07 PM

Gnaw is really giving this a lot of thought, it's fun to see him sharing it all. :rolleyes:

D, on 24 September 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Lord this ought to be fun.

Amako contract please

Assuming Galain is lynched
  • Kill order based on appearance in contract

  • Kill Tellan
  • Kill Meanas
  • Kill Whoever was the last vote in the lynch
  • Kill Osseric
  • Kill Karosis
  • Kill Liosan
  • Kill Olar Ethil
  • Kill Sorrit
  • Kill Spite
  • Kill Korbas
  • Kill Korvalain
  • Kill Emurlahn
  • Kill Fener
  • Inhabit based on kill.
  • Inhabit my kill except Korosis and Korvalain

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Korvalain, on 24 September 2012 - 11:43 PM, said:

I am loving all the arguments on thread about just what the heck Galain might be up to. I am very excited to see how people are going to react when we get a CF. I'm personally hoping that he doesn't CF assassin, just so that the attention goes towards a culture hunt tomorrow. Should make for an interesting Day 4! :)





Emurlahn, on 24 September 2012 - 11:26 PM, said:

wicked! accepting the contract. I'm gonna hope for fener or korvy. maybe spite.



1st Assassin down, if Emur gets his wish.

Tonight wont be the Day 4 bloodbath I was expecting, seeing as how 2 puppets got lynched.

Galains CF will be as the captain (Khell), not an assassin. So there will finally be a visible death of a faction member. Although a confusing one I suspect...
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 02:53 AM

Korv and D`riss get these names from the Amako general.

I think I know who Korv will choose, if he doesnt abstain that is.

Korbas, Korvalain

Emurlahn gets

Emurlah, Osseric, D`riss

from Hosokawa.

Lucky for him, Korvalain is later on D`riss` list behind Korbas.
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