[Path-Shaper]

Emurlahn is abstaining from a kill.

Regardless of who (or if both) assassins choose Korbas, a puppet cannot become someone else's puppet (and certainly a double kill can't become a puppet), so Korbas will just die, and CF as Hannya (even though the real Hannya is in Emurlahn).

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan/Obdi the veteran is is catching on.

Liosan, on 25 September 2012 - 09:42 AM, said:

WTF is the TMDI of this game? I thought it was 4-5, but I can't see a listing anywhere (am I blind?).

But I think I've found a FM, but that might be paranoia if the TMDI is low, so, yea... pretty please answer my question?

[Path-Shaper]

Interesting night results.

All 3 assassins are alive, but 2 have "died" publicly. That's not what is interesting though - what I think is cool is none of them have a puppet anymore.

[Path-Shaper]

Obdi is goooooood

Liosan, on 25 September 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

SH stuff

A guess:
Mockra jumped into D'riss upon being lynched and it is Gnaw judging by the bullet pointed lists. Which makes me wonder if the Assassins are all FM's?

[Tattersail_]

I'm glad I was killed night one as I went away on Wednesday and didn't get back til Sunday. I ran out of time even though I thought i'd have the internet

[Path-Shaper]

Awww, a little spat:

Korvalain, on 25 September 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

Friggin Osseric is freaking me out. I am still hoping that I don't get NK'd, or that the other assassin doesn't get me on his list, or that he just doesn't pick up on the fact that Osseric is right about me.

Osseric, on 25 September 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

I don't get it. Fucking do something Korv. enter a rant. do something. fuck you.
P-S . put this in SH for Korv to read either.
btw ,I think he doesn't have a set of balls.

Osseric, on 25 September 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

his logical defense makes me suspicious, the only time I did such a defense was when I was scum and I wasn't in any danger.

Korvalain, on 25 September 2012 - 07:42 PM, said:

If I make it to the end, I can't wait to shove it in Osseric's face.

[Path-Shaper]

Well, all 3 assassins SHOULD be outed on thread.

D'riss for his bullet point thing,

And Emur and Korv for speculating about leaders being Captains.

I didn't post generic PMs this game, and ALL of the faction PMs say "you are under GENERAL so and so"

[Path-Shaper]

Night 4

Meanas has his list: Fener Karosis Tellan

Liosan's list:
D'riss, Osseric, Korvalain with Karosis as a backup in case any of the first three get lynched.
Tellan's List: Osseric D'riss Liosan

Korv and Emurlahn will accept Hosokawa contracts tonight.
D'riss does the smart thing and takes the weakened clans contract - Ouchi.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 26 September 2012 - 12:29 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Tellan, on 26 September 2012 - 07:09 AM, said:

Ok, caught up. There is loads going on. Accusations are flying. Names are being called. Speculation is rife!

Would you tell us if you had put a faceless man in the game? I feel like that would bump up the TDMI above 8. Hmmm.

My contact list:

Osseric
D'riss
Liosan

Osseric and D'riss because I still fell like they are the best bets to be Ouchi, and Liosan because quite frankly he is irritating me, and even if he is part of my team he is doing no one any favours by throwing out baseless speculations and calling people morons.

[Tattersail_]

Who do you think is going to win this Shin?

[Path-Shaper]

Game could end tonight.

If Osseric is lynched, both assassins with an available kill chose the Hosokawa, so one of them could very well kill Liosan. (Although if they're smart, they'll go for D'riss). But if they kill Lio instead, that would mean 4 Hosokawa with only 1 Amako and 2 Ouchi left. Game over.

[Path-Shaper]

Emur's kill preferance order:

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Fener, Korvalain, D'riss, Liosan, Karosis, Olar Ethil, Osseric, Tellan, Meanas, Sorrit, Spite

Korv's list:

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OssericEmurlahnKarosisD'rissTellanSorritSpiteMeanasOlar EthilLiosanFener

Both are taking the Hosokawa contract which contains D'riss, Osseric and Liosan. Both have D'riss on their list, so D'riss/Gnaw will die and neither gets the puppet. FIRST ASSASSIN DOWN, and the clans war is not over (yet).

[Gnaw]

Skinner!!!!

[Gnaw]

Posted just for the laughs.
Waiting for day 4 lynch CF. Wake up Shin!
I talk waaaay too much in game. Need to inhabit a lowish poster or one who doesn't say much. Which means I HAVE to get my kill target done, because D'riss is almost certainly going to get lynched day 5.

"Pretty sure Fener voted for Spite, not D'riss, there PS. Would you please either correct or confirm for me? " Liosan sure wanted to separate that vote. Since he wants the D'riss lynch there is no good reason to point that out.Liosan is assassin with Fener his puppet? Fener voting for Spite had no legs. But looked good. Dammit. Fener puppet can't match up with Mockra and Galain lynch votes. Wait. Yes it could. If Fener was't killed until Night 3. But that makes the whole Liosan assassin with Fener his puppet case is weak as hell. Ggaaaaahhhhh. Fuck, the Liosan problem is in my head.

How many assassins? 4 at most, but 3 minimum. "but there is more than one assassin remaining in the game." 4 assassins would be too many because assassins would end up picking the winner by sheer number of kills?
Assume 3
Night 1. 3 contracts with 3 names each. Max targets 9. But Liosan and Mockra got same contract (Hosakawa) so 6 targets. Fener and D'riss dead. Leaves 1 assassin, 1 unknown dead player.
Night 2. Possible kill, but only if the unknown from Night 1 didn't request a contract. Putting this in because someone is bound to have been smart enough to wait a night. Korbas vote counting on the Mockra lynch with Fener being the puppet that round. Either way only 3 dead non assassins.
Making WCS based upon no heals or guards. Probably unrealistic.
Night 3. D'riss targets puppet. So 2 other possible kills. So possibly 5 kills at end of Night 3. That leaves 11-3 for 8 faction members still alive. 4 members of 3 teams. Hosakawa lost 2 leaving 2. Ouchi losing 1 to assassination and 1 to lynch leaves 2. Amako still has 4. So, theoretically the faction game could still be on. But that is a lot of assassin kills. Surely not. And no way there are 4 assassins. But then wtf was Eloth???
Shit. Spoiler Heaven here I come. *it's a learning process* *it's a learning process* *it's a learning process* *it's a learning process*
Maybe if I say it enough times.....

Holy mindfucks batman.
Osseric (EmperorMagus) is dead. He was Tomuhisa, Lieutenant of the Amako clan.
Spite, Tellan, Korvalain, Karosis, D'riss, Emurlahn, Meanas
That means all of those of those votes counted. No puppets there!!!!
Liosan, Sorrit, Fener, Osseric, and Olar are the only puppet possibles.
I thought Korvalain was an assassin early on. Was Korbas really an assassin and two of us targeted him same night???
Osseric seemed to dig his own grave. Puppet that was abandoned by his assassin? Karosis maybe?
Shit. Shit. Shit.
Gawd Shin. Pins and needles here. Hurry the fuck up.
Stream of consciousness going at this point. I'll probably cut and paste all of this so everybody can get a good laugh.
I feel like a trained dog with the treat on his nose waiting for the (sadistic) master to tell him "ok".
Really?!? 45 minutes to wade through your messages? Read faster dammit.
May I suggest changing the tag line on the mafia anon thread title to "We're here to feed you addiction, not solve it."?
"Pretty sure Fener voted for Spite, not D'riss, there PS. Would you please either correct or confirm for me? " Liosan sure wanted to separate that vote. Since he wants the D'riss lynch there is no good reason to point that out. Damn. Liosan is the puppet???? "Doesn't the OP mention something about the assassin role being'watered down', and they ( the assassins) ..."

[Gnaw]

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For every member of your clan who dies, your contract list reduces by 1. It cannot reduce below 1. (So even if you are the last person left, you can still put out a single contract choice)

That one should have been obvious to me. Doh.

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Ability: Once a night, choose a target for recruitment. If that target is a clan member, your recruit attempt will fail. However, if the alt you target is one of the 3 assassins, they become your General's personal assassin and will no longer accept contracts from other leaders.

Ah. General and unaligned explained.

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after any contract acceptance, the next night you may not kill again.

That's what I thought but then you offered me another contract.

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You are a faceless man. When you successfully kill someone, you change places with them.

Cool. One assassin had no choice to switch.

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I'm going to level with you - this is going to be a relatively difficult thing to pull off. If you do it, it will reap serious rewards for the Ashikaga in the coming games AND you will be granted a fun role in the next game, rather than given one at random like everyone else.

Very fucking cool. And we went and fucked it up. I'm actually sorry about that. That would have been sweet.

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Korvalain - ishi, Korbas –hitachi, Mockra - momo

So all those anonymous readers weren't actually players?!? Now that is just wrong. Is that a normal game wide thing?

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EmperorMagus has Blend dead to rights

Yeah, I had Korv pegged as well. I think, that was 5 days ago.

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With Emurlahn and D'riss as puppets, that raises the potential that their leaders will figure out something is going on since the leaders know their paymasters.

So that's why Liosan had it for D'riss so badly.

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I'm still not sure where the Hosokawa thing comes in though, as I did my contract for the Amako the other day. I am thinking that it's just a completely unrelated scene, probably a contract for hire.

Korv was a recruit which is why he knew the 'paymaster' mechanism? Or was that an experienced question?

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Spite recruits Emurlahn, so Hannya can now only accept contracts from the Hosokawa.

Oh. That makes me feel better. As the only independent left, I was fucked from this point on, right?

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Interesting...Meanas doesn't know he's missing two team members, but he still has only chosen 1 name for contract. Too bad the assassins are ignoring him

He had gotten my attention but I was too busy running for my life ATP. Of course I'm already losing track of what I knew, what I suspected, and when for both.

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Lucky for him, Korvalain is later on D`riss` list behind Korbas

So that really was a "are you really sure you want Korbas instead of Korvalain"? Damn, damn, damn.

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Emurlahn is abstaining from a kill

Smart move. I wish I could have had enough time to do the same. Had I been really smart I would have done that the first day. But I was so afraid of people meta-game pegging me as gnaw. *it's a learning curve, it's a learning curve*

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D'riss does the smart thing and takes the weakened clans contract - Ouchi

Just luck. I wanted to see somebody else's list of names.

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Both are taking the Hosokawa contract which contains D'riss, Osseric and Liosan. Both have D'riss on their list, so D'riss/Gnaw will die and neither gets the puppet. FIRST ASSASSIN DOWN, and the clans war is not over (yet).

So did that resolve that way because they had both chosen me? Or because I got my list in last?

[Gnaw]

Shin. Not certain but I think you fucked up. Maybe badly.
You posted Gnaw's death as
"D’riss (Gnaw) is dead. He was Kage-za, the assassin"
Kate-za was killed already. The D'riss should have been the paymaster death shouldn't it??
Fixable if you claim a copy/paste error?

[Gnaw]

Mockra (Sixty) is dead. He was Kage-za, the assassin.

[Gnaw]

I am by nature and nurture a "fixer" whether the problem actually needs fixed or not. .
I have no idea how big a 'problem' this is. Shin is at work. Maybe a PM from somebody experienced to Liosan from somebody he knows 'suggesting' it was a copy/paste error? Seeing as how he already knew D'riss was his paymaster and a FM? I will ignore this from here.

[Path-Shaper]

Emur/Korbas

Emurlahn, on 26 September 2012 - 11:25 PM, said:

wtf. D'riss is dead. And I must have (helped) kill him. Which means I didn't get to hop. Which means I'm vulnerable for two more days. Shit. Fuck.

Emurlahn, on 27 September 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

just in case something weird happens, here's my next list:


Korvalain, Fener, Liosan, Karosis, Olar Ethil, Tellan, Meanas, Sorrit, Spite.

I think I may have lost this one. With that assassin having the same name as Mockra, (good catch whoever pointed out that D'riss used Mockra's bullet points), I assume we all have similar powers involving alt jumping. Which means he likely has a second alt, and I do not, and am under suspicion as an assassin AND Ouchi, without the ability to jump for 2 days, most likely.

Things are not looking well for me.

[Path-Shaper]

@Gnaw

I am going to post a scene later where they discover the body of the paymaster. Part of your power though, was you always CF'd as "Kage-Za the assassin". That's because when you inhabit/puppetize an alt, both alts you control ARE you, but you make one of them appear to be the person you killed.

No mistake. Maybe a bit of a mind-twister, but not a mistake.