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Sengoku Chapter 3 : Knives in the Dark

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:52 AM

View PostLiosan, on 27 September 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:

View PostSpite, on 27 September 2012 - 10:57 AM, said:

Liosan, you only showed up when you were voted during the Galain lynch, raised a lot of questions but never dropped a vote on him. That does look like a connection to Galain to me.

But the spat between Korv and Osseric yesterday stands out. It felt fake. I'd be willing to vote either way.

vote Korvalain


I show up when I have time to play. You can take a look at my post time history, it is pretty regular.

I find it funny that you are willing to vote someone already lynched though.


Korvalain wasn't lynched... We lynched osseric yesterday.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:53 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 27 September 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

It is Day 5. 20 hours and 40 minutes are left in the day.

10 players are left alive.


Emurlahn, Fener, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan


6 votes to lynch, 5 to go to night.

3 votes Emurlahn: Fener, Liosan, Tellan
1 vote Liosan: Emurlahn

Players not voting: Karosis, Korvalain, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Sorrit, Spite


Hmmm yes... still playing. Guess you haven't been reading the thread Liosan.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 11:58 AM

View PostEmurlahn, on 27 September 2012 - 02:18 AM, said:

I meant continuing to shoot for Ouchi, not me in particular. I think it might be better to lynch randomly today, tbh. Maybe Liosan (although people will assume I'm holding a grudge) I'll go anyone low content. I want to hit a Hokowoaasasawaawa. And we have no leads on them, so today would be the perfect day to get rid of some dead weight!

My reasoningbeing thus: 2 factions are down a man. 1 faction is down no one. So let's play majority here and even out. Most people will be from the two lower factions, so if they temporarily band together, they could (hopefully) even the playing field.

Therefore,

Vote liosan

I;m tired, so not correcting my typing.


Aside from the first line, that Fener already pointed out reads as admission to being Ouchi, the underlined bugs me. Why the heck would we want to do that? The point of the game is to decimate the opposing teams. If we can get rid of Ouchi, then we should get rid of Ouchi and move on. I think you're a likely Ouchi, so I will

vote Emurlahn

but I also wanted to remind everyone of the connection Karosis had with Galain. We shouldn't forget that, he's still very much alive and has slid back under the radar beneath the Osseric shit that happened yesterday.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:06 PM

View PostSpite, on 27 September 2012 - 10:45 AM, said:

Back and just waking up. So with Osseric CFing as Lieutenant, he could either be the one team member that the faction leader knows about pr we know absolutely nothing about that lynch and have to go back to Galain. I think Fener's line of reasoning is suspicious. First he calls Emur an assassin and votes for him, then does his ridiculous appology and is voting for several random targets. This looks to me like he may be trying to get us from avoiding noticing him as one of the few that DIDN'T vote Osseric. Not really enough of a case to make me vote that way yet though.
The case on Emur is just too vague. I really can't tell whose team he's on from his voting style, and I'd rather not hit just another assassin or get someone too low ranking that I get no info.

Again, the Galain lynch. There was some viable defending on that one and I'm thinking Liosan or Meanas. Let me go back and look.


Could you be anymore clueless? Do you even read the thread? I never called Emurlahn an assassin. I was trying to be polite when I apologized for him thinking that, when I could have been a dick. I went after Emurlahn for bringing up a low poster case out of nowhere, as soon as I started the Galain case. You and Emurlahn both were hesitant to vote for Galain, then both finally did vote Galain. Either one of you would be an excellent choice. There is no connection between Korv and Osseric. I could still vote for Korv, though, for different reasons. Your unwillingness to vote for Emurlahn, and your desire to want to lynch someone someone you think wad related to Osseric, an Amako, just means that our best bet is to vote off Emurlahn, then come straight for you. Could you be anymore transparent?

And what makes you assume that faction leaders know the lieutenant, who according to the scenes, are below captains, who are below generals. I'd assume a leader would know the person right below them, not some random chain of command. Think, then post. Your scrambling isn't helping you. Also, I haven't voted for 'several random targets'. Are you just making stuff up? I voted for Galain, and he got lynched. I voted for you, before the Osseric train even started, and came back to Osseric being lynched. I even made a post when I voted for you, analyzing the 3 cases against D'riss, Karosis, and Osseric, and even posted that of those 3, I'd vote Osseric. And that was literally only a few posts before the Osseric train started. Then today I voted for Emutlahn, for the same reason I voted for you. Nothing random about my votes, and definitely not 'several' votes. I've been very clear and concise about who I voted for, and gave valid reasons. Please read before you continue making yourself look foolish.

I'd be willing to take down Spite after Emurlahn. I think once Emurlahn falls, and if we get a CF that I think we will, we have a few more dominos to knock down, right after.

As far as my thoughts on Korv, I don't think Korv is in a faction. That's just my gut. Osseric showed up Amako, that's why I don't buy them two having any type of relation. I could vote Korv, but not based on anything to do with Osseric.

Emurlahn is an excellent choice. We can move right along to Spite, who must be allied with Emurlahn, once he's down. Then on to one of the people not voting for Emurlahn and/or Spite. It's our best hope for real information and for taking steps towards wiping out one of the factions.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:11 PM

Emurlahn at L-2 after Korv's vote. Spite, you are unwilling to get on this train, right?

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:14 PM

View PostFener, on 27 September 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:


Could you be anymore clueless? Do you even read the thread? I never called Emurlahn an assassin. I was trying to be polite when I apologized for him thinking that, when I could have been a dick. I went after Emurlahn for bringing up a low poster case out of nowhere, as soon as I started the Galain case. You and Emurlahn both were hesitant to vote for Galain, then both finally did vote Galain. Either one of you would be an excellent choice. There is no connection between Korv and Osseric. I could still vote for Korv, though, for different reasons. Your unwillingness to vote for Emurlahn, and your desire to want to lynch someone someone you think wad related to Osseric, an Amako, just means that our best bet is to vote off Emurlahn, then come straight for you. Could you be anymore transparent?

And what makes you assume that faction leaders know the lieutenant, who according to the scenes, are below captains, who are below generals. I'd assume a leader would know the person right below them, not some random chain of command. Think, then post. Your scrambling isn't helping you. Also, I haven't voted for 'several random targets'. Are you just making stuff up? I voted for Galain, and he got lynched. I voted for you, before the Osseric train even started, and came back to Osseric being lynched. I even made a post when I voted for you, analyzing the 3 cases against D'riss, Karosis, and Osseric, and even posted that of those 3, I'd vote Osseric. And that was literally only a few posts before the Osseric train started. Then today I voted for Emutlahn, for the same reason I voted for you. Nothing random about my votes, and definitely not 'several' votes. I've been very clear and concise about who I voted for, and gave valid reasons. Please read before you continue making yourself look foolish.

I'd be willing to take down Spite after Emurlahn. I think once Emurlahn falls, and if we get a CF that I think we will, we have a few more dominos to knock down, right after.

As far as my thoughts on Korv, I don't think Korv is in a faction. That's just my gut. Osseric showed up Amako, that's why I don't buy them two having any type of relation. I could vote Korv, but not based on anything to do with Osseric.

Emurlahn is an excellent choice. We can move right along to Spite, who must be allied with Emurlahn, once he's down. Then on to one of the people not voting for Emurlahn and/or Spite. It's our best hope for real information and for taking steps towards wiping out one of the factions.


Underlined reads to me like you're the Amako leader. The only way you could know that me and Osseric could have no relation just cause he came up Amako is if you're the Amako leader.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:14 PM

Hi everybody!,

catching up,

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:19 PM

It is Day 5. 17 hours are left in the day.

10 players are left alive.


Emurlahn, Fener, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Sorrit, Spite, Tellan


6 votes to lynch, 5 to go to night.

4 votes Emurlahn: Fener, Liosan, Tellan, Korvalain
1 vote Liosan: Emurlahn
1 vote Korvalain: Spite

Players not voting: Karosis, Meanas, Olar Ethil, Sorrit
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:20 PM

great catch by lio about the two dead assassins with the same name, either its an assassin clan or as lio guessed we have a FM mechanic in the game

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:29 PM

View PostKorvalain, on 27 September 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

View PostFener, on 27 September 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:


Could you be anymore clueless? Do you even read the thread? I never called Emurlahn an assassin. I was trying to be polite when I apologized for him thinking that, when I could have been a dick. I went after Emurlahn for bringing up a low poster case out of nowhere, as soon as I started the Galain case. You and Emurlahn both were hesitant to vote for Galain, then both finally did vote Galain. Either one of you would be an excellent choice. There is no connection between Korv and Osseric. I could still vote for Korv, though, for different reasons. Your unwillingness to vote for Emurlahn, and your desire to want to lynch someone someone you think wad related to Osseric, an Amako, just means that our best bet is to vote off Emurlahn, then come straight for you. Could you be anymore transparent?

And what makes you assume that faction leaders know the lieutenant, who according to the scenes, are below captains, who are below generals. I'd assume a leader would know the person right below them, not some random chain of command. Think, then post. Your scrambling isn't helping you. Also, I haven't voted for 'several random targets'. Are you just making stuff up? I voted for Galain, and he got lynched. I voted for you, before the Osseric train even started, and came back to Osseric being lynched. I even made a post when I voted for you, analyzing the 3 cases against D'riss, Karosis, and Osseric, and even posted that of those 3, I'd vote Osseric. And that was literally only a few posts before the Osseric train started. Then today I voted for Emutlahn, for the same reason I voted for you. Nothing random about my votes, and definitely not 'several' votes. I've been very clear and concise about who I voted for, and gave valid reasons. Please read before you continue making yourself look foolish.

I'd be willing to take down Spite after Emurlahn. I think once Emurlahn falls, and if we get a CF that I think we will, we have a few more dominos to knock down, right after.

As far as my thoughts on Korv, I don't think Korv is in a faction. That's just my gut. Osseric showed up Amako, that's why I don't buy them two having any type of relation. I could vote Korv, but not based on anything to do with Osseric.

Emurlahn is an excellent choice. We can move right along to Spite, who must be allied with Emurlahn, once he's down. Then on to one of the people not voting for Emurlahn and/or Spite. It's our best hope for real information and for taking steps towards wiping out one of the factions.


Underlined reads to me like you're the Amako leader. The only way you could know that me and Osseric could have no relation just cause he came up Amako is if you're the Amako leader.


Emurlahn actually called YOU the Amako leader. I was defending their case against you. They implied you and Osseric were distancing from each other because you were the Amako leader, and Osseric knew you, and you knew Osseric. I think you're not in a faction, that's why I think you aren't related to Osseric. Also, if I was the Amako leader, and leaders only know one person in their faction, how would that help me know that you weren't one of the other members? That makes no sense. So you just admitted to a willingness to kill Ouchi, revealed you don't know who the Amako leader is, thus not Amako. So you're either an assassin, or the same faction Eloth was.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:45 PM

Sorry it's early, haven't had my coffee yet. In my head the only way for someone to know for sure that I wasn't the Amako leader based on Osseric's CF was if they were the leader, which is obviously not true. I still think you have given yourself away as being Amako though.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:56 PM

I'm here, don't lynch me. Looks like this is going down, so I'll give ya'll some information from the scene.

View PostPath-Shaper, on 26 September 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

The paymaster's shed lay in darkness, a black swirling mist which seemed like a deeper hole in the blackness of the night.

The Goblin1 perched on the edge of the roof and dropped in through a narrow window that would have been sufficient to keep out a small child. Landing lightly on the earthen floor of the shed, it paused. A blade scraped free of a scabbard and the white skull of a demon2 emerged from the gloom, pausing as well.

The distance between them was less than a meter, but it was nearly as effective as a wall. Neither moved. Neither seemed to breath.
And that's when the Shadow3 came to life. Boiling out from the back of the shed, it engulfed the two in their standoff. Everything became a blur of motion. Shadow attacked Demon, Demon parried and stabbed towards the Goblin. Goblin leapt into the air and performed a half flip to gather its legs under it. Pushing off of the ceiling it surged downward. The Demon spun and hammered at the Shadow with a double overhead blow. There was a scream, and suddenly where there had been shadow, a man coalesced. A long sword split its skull from the front, held by the demon, and a cruelly curved scythe pushed through his neck from behind, held by the Goblin.4

Again, there was a pause, and the air fairly crackled with animosity. And a promise.

Slowly, both of the remaining combatants drew slowly backwards. The body of their third adversary slid noiselessly to the ground.
In moments, they were gone. 5

But the promise remained.

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1. The Goblin = Assassin number 1.
2. The demon - assassin number 2
3. The shadow = assassin number 3
4. The Demon and Goblin both attacked the Shadow, killing him.
5. there are two assassins left. The goblin, and the demon.
6. Working with your assumption that all the assassins are an FM or alt jumpers of some kind, of the two assassins remaining, one has 1 (hannya) alt and the other has 2.'



So there is no need to lynch a known assassin at this point. Got it? Also no need to allow them to be killed at night. They just want the other dead, no faction worries.


I am willing to vote anywhere but me.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:59 PM

Also, consider this: There seem to be no killers in the game other than assassins. You lose your only method of killing the other factions if you eliminate one of the remaining assassins, as the other will leave the game (this is an assumption based off other games with independent VCs).

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:18 PM

One of you people unvote me, please, just in case neither of one of the assassin's alts have voted yet, they could hammer.

I'm leaving. Will be back in an hour and a half.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:37 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on 27 September 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

One of you people unvote me, please, just in case neither of one of the assassin's alts have voted yet, they could hammer.

I'm leaving. Will be back in an hour and a half.


Why in the world would we do that? Who cares if the assassins hammer you? That would just be one more member of an opposing faction down.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:48 PM

Been in traffic for the last couple hours, I'll need to read up on posts. TBH, I think Osseric was right and Emur s probably an assassin. I don't see that we will gain anything by an assassin lynch.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:54 PM

View PostKorvalain, on 27 September 2012 - 11:58 AM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on 27 September 2012 - 02:18 AM, said:

I meant continuing to shoot for Ouchi, not me in particular. I think it might be better to lynch randomly today, tbh. Maybe Liosan (although people will assume I'm holding a grudge) I'll go anyone low content. I want to hit a Hokowoaasasawaawa. And we have no leads on them, so today would be the perfect day to get rid of some dead weight!

My reasoningbeing thus: 2 factions are down a man. 1 faction is down no one. So let's play majority here and even out. Most people will be from the two lower factions, so if they temporarily band together, they could (hopefully) even the playing field.

Therefore,

Vote liosan

I;m tired, so not correcting my typing.


Aside from the first line, that Fener already pointed out reads as admission to being Ouchi, the underlined bugs me. Why the heck would we want to do that? The point of the game is to decimate the opposing teams. If we can get rid of Ouchi, then we should get rid of Ouchi and move on. I think you're a likely Ouchi, so I will

vote Emurlahn

but I also wanted to remind everyone of the connection Karosis had with Galain. We shouldn't forget that, he's still very much alive and has slid back under the radar beneath the Osseric shit that happened yesterday.


Hmmm I actually had forgotten about Karosis. Osseric's spaz yesterday really made me focus on him.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 01:57 PM

Wow, 17 hours left and L-2 (or should we just assume that extra votes are still needed and call it L-3?) already.

As others have said, good catch on the two assassins having the same name. Will give some thought on that.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 02:33 PM

I am willing to vote Emu bsaed on the even things up comment alone, so before I head off:

Vote Emurlahn

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 02:39 PM

I still think that we are handing the remaining assassin his VC. If I'm right you'll need another vote after mine.

remove vote

Vote emurlahn


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