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The Book that Erikson just read and loved

#221 User is offline   Fist Gamet 

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 05:53 AM

SPOILERS FOR WARRIOR PROPHET....

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As far as I recall, Cnauir's obsession with Serwe is not straightforwards. For one, she reminds him of his first wife (whom he genuinely loved) and at first he wanted someone else on the journey (besides Kellhus). She was, traditionally, his prize, his spoils of war, if you like. Added to this was the fact she was supposed to be really beautiful and he is, at the heart, a man after all Posted Image. There was also something near the end about his long history in the Utemot of shame and weeping and whisperings to which he was suddenly realising he was not a traitor after all, and Serwe was his proof (somehow) but I cannot quite grasp that bit either. I am sure I am missing something but it eludes me.

Overall, a very enjoyable read, and all the more so because it is a rarity in fantasy because I could not predict the twists and turns of the plot. Things occurred and people died unexpectedly and I love that in a book (I recall the Stark Boy and the Red Wedding as another moment that was powerful because it was unexpected).
While I was reading about the siege of Caraskand I was thinking that another author would have had the Fleets of Ce Tydonn or Conriya or the Mandate charging to their rescue but Bakker avoided this and used the characters and slow-burning plot elements to achieve their victory. Well done.

Looking forwards to book three.
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Posted 24 April 2003 - 03:09 PM

One question. Is it worth the time and effort?

If it is, I'll send for a copy.

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Posted 23 April 2003 - 10:02 PM

Is it only available in TPB or can you get it in Hardback?
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Posted 24 July 2003 - 01:30 PM

For the moment it appears so. I found it on amazon.ca, chapters.ca clarkesworldbooks.com (american) and mysale.ca. No idea when it will be published elsewhere. It really is worth it to order it, though.

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 07:34 AM

Gentleman and Gentlewomen,

I just The Darkness That Comes Before. I am definately still in process mode. I've never read a book like it. I hated the first 90 pages but pushed on in respect for Steven Erikson's opinion. The next 400 pages were incredible.

There is something unsettling with how RSB handles sex and its use by evil. The attempt to mix philosophical pursuits (most philosophy students annoy me since they prefer not to talk about anything that actually happened) and fantasy is at times brilliant.

Page 555 disturbed me. First RSB adapts the Lord's Prayer to Earwa and then before the page is up is using a Redd Foxx joke to bond Khellus and Xin.

I loved that the title of the trilogy comes from Cnauir's mouth. The character is memorble, a force of rage.

Reading RSB is rewarding but also leaves you with a weird taste in your mouth. It is kind of like scoring with a hot lady you've been eyeing for sometime but when you get down to business she does something repulsive and undesired like trying to stick her fist in your butt.

I will continue on......enjoying his work but watching out for my butt.

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Posted 03 March 2004 - 06:42 AM

The mass market paperback of HoC was released, which is why it is on the list again this year.

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Posted 24 July 2003 - 09:14 AM

is this still only availiable in canada?Posted Image

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Posted 18 April 2003 - 11:01 AM

hey Lady A! Don't forget about ol' China!!

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Posted 16 March 2003 - 01:07 AM

wo, it looks brilliant, and the cover looks so cool! This is definitely on my list


WHAT!?!?!?! THEY DON'T HAVE IT ON AMAZON.CO.UK!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 03 March 2004 - 06:44 AM

I don't see why they even put the mass market paperback edition on this list when the trade paperback/hardcover was on it last year. It is still the same book.

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Posted 16 June 2005 - 06:56 PM

RSB is so dang gritty earthy. His books are so full of rutting, peeing, smell, defecating.........

And on the flip side there are the extended philosophical explorations almost purely in the abstract.

Such a contrast in the same story.

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Posted 25 September 2003 - 04:35 AM

I just found a synopsis for the second book, Warrior Prophet, on the Penguin website (fortunately confirmed for April next year)

In Book Two of R. Scott Bakker's critically acclaimed fantasy series, The Prince of Nothing, the Holy War continues its inexorable, southward march to the holy city of Shimeh.

Steering souls through the subtleties of word and expression, Anasûrimbor Kellhus gradually extends his dominion over the Men of the Tusk. Succumbing utterly to Kellhus, the sorcerer Achamian is reunited at long last with Esmenet, only to be abducted by a rival sorcerous school. He rejoins the Holy War in its most desperate hour, only to discover that Kellhus has taken Esmenet as his wife. Meanwhile, the warrior Cnaiur, convinced that Kellhus will betray their pact to murder Kellhus's father, turns to the agents of the Second Apocalypse and strikes an infernal bargain.

"And those that endure in Middle-earth and come not to Mandos shall grow weary of the world as with a great burden, and shall wane, and become as shadows of regret before the younger race that cometh after."
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Posted 01 August 2003 - 08:18 AM

Huh? Earthlight had these authors Robert Holdstock, Terry Brooks, Kevin J. Anderson, Ray Bradbury, Miller Lau, Michael Cobley, Jon Courtenay Grimwood, Jude Fisher, Guy Gavriel Kay, Michael Moorcock, Harry Turtledove, and David Weber in addition to Bakker. I wouldn't exactly consider them ignorable.
I haven't been able to find anything that says Earthlight was losing money either. It appears that the S&S investors wanted more.

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Posted 16 April 2003 - 11:44 AM

Yeah got it from my Chapters today as well. Three maps and a nice appendix at the back as well at the back. Looks like it is going to be a good read.

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Posted 17 January 2004 - 05:35 PM

Uk cover:

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Posted 17 September 2003 - 08:43 PM

Well I get the impression that the No-God or at least his sorceror followers are about to make a return so that seems to be where the plot is heading.

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Posted 20 March 2003 - 12:28 PM

I'm sure that, given a bit of time, the book will become available on amazon.com and probably uk as well. amazon.com at the least, it's rare for a book to be available just in Canada I think.

"And those that endure in Middle-earth and come not to Mandos shall grow weary of the world as with a great burden, and shall wane, and become as shadows of regret before the younger race that cometh after."
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Posted 03 February 2004 - 01:08 AM

me too - looking forward to it (and MT)

also, City of Saints and Madmen is published at the start of March in the U.K. - gonna be a good month.

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Posted 20 April 2003 - 12:09 AM

Oh no!!!
I see a bunch of authors who are trying to write just like Erikson.....
Were will we end if every god damn author tries to invite a world like "ATotMBoTF"??
This is the end....
But I'll read it anyway....
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Posted 28 July 2005 - 07:18 AM

...thats what gratuitous means, yes.
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