[Fener]

i know i'm sorry

[Kalse]

I'm back.

[Osseric]

So? what do you think about Lio?

[Kalse]

Fener, on 11 July 2012 - 08:29 AM, said:

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

Yes, that is killer information. I have independent confirmation that you can be trusted because you were town when you were lynched, therefore we can CI Thyr, Osseric, and myself right now, VPI Kaschan, and maybe PI Anom. Fener is up in the air just because there has been too much confusion from day 1 about who is in that alt.

Okay say Osseric and Thyr are PI'd. Fair enough. Why you? Why Kasch? Why Anom?

I'm CI because I died before it was possible to be recruited, and I haven't changed alts all game.

Kash is VPI because he has been providing us with the most information that seems to be correct.

Looks like from SL's reveal that I was right about Anom too.

Words from above:

Rashan is confirmed scum and Tellan is town. Can we trust this? I want to say yes, because, both are being targeted as scum right now, which means that we can pick the one we think we know and test it. D'riss has built a pretty large case on Rashan.

Also, let's clear this up -

Jheck Warrior with Obsidian Sword, _____ aka Telas
Lanky, Purple-haired Woman, Tall sinuous super-human woman with killer slap, _____ aka D'riss

So, my connection is CONFIRMING that Rashan is a Bahamudite - if he doesn't come back that way, then we've been misled and we need to rethink a lot of things and I fucked up by trusting my source too much.

I have to say for now,

Remove vote

Vote Rashan

[Kalse]

Osseric, on 11 July 2012 - 01:43 PM, said:

Kalse, is Rashan your lover ?
From D'riss posts it seems he knew the scum number yesterday.

I figure if we lynch Rashan and things go badly, I'll reveal my connection. If we hit scum, I'm going to keep being tight-lipped so that no returned scum can target this player directly.

[Kalse]

Fener, on 11 July 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

Tellan, on 11 July 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

Don't lynch me. My role is that I pick who gets lynched when we no-lynch. My DoD card is Herald of Death. If you don't believe me, tell me who you want to lynch, (other than me) and let day timeout. When that person dies, it should clear me.

Hmm, interesting to see where this fits in peoples plans and if this is believed by everyone and it should verify a few things too

Wow, so the fucker chose me to get lynched. Bastard. Too bad I don't think he's scum, dammit.

[Kalse]

Osseric, on 11 July 2012 - 03:25 PM, said:

So? what do you think about Lio?

He didn't come back as scum, and I don't think he is. His ability lines up with what information I was given, we all just didn't understand what it meant at the time, if he's telling the truth about the doppleganger business.

[Kalse]

We didn't have any alignment info on Liosan, it was process of elimination that led us to him. With a confirmed "find" on Rashan, I think we have a much better case and chance of hitting scum.

[Kalse]

Also, if Rashan doesn't come back as scum, my connection is going to reveal and let some shit hit the fan. So we're on the edge here.

[Osseric]

you know Kalse, i don't know why but i think you are playing with us.

[Kalse]

Osseric, on 11 July 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:

you know Kalse, i don't know why but i think you are playing with us.

Why would I do that? I have (possibly unfortunately) been completely honest with everyone here and my lover. I have been dead since day 1, I can't be scum. I don't see why I would fuck around? Can you give me more than a gut feeling?

Info from above:

No Bahamudites have been lynched so far. All cult deaths came from the FM, it seems, so those CFs were real.

[Kalse]

Also, I think my vote pretty much answers your question about Rashan being my lover...

[Osseric]

Its still possible that you were Scum when you started,explaining why you have a lover connection .
As i remember Kaschs first count was begining of day 2. Still i'm not sure or anything but you are my target for tonight(quiet possibly)

This post has been edited by Osseric: 11 July 2012 - 04:06 PM

[Kalse]

Osseric, on 11 July 2012 - 04:05 PM, said:

Its still possible that you were Scum when you started,explaining why you have a lover connection .
As i remember Kaschs first count was begining of day 2. Still i'm not sure or anything but you are my target for tonight(quiet possibly)

I don't see how being scum and having a lover connection have anything to do with each other?

But actually, please do a find on me - either you'll know for sure that I'm town or I'll know that you're lying and must be scum. It's perfect.

[Osseric]

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

Osseric, on 11 July 2012 - 04:05 PM, said:

Its still possible that you were Scum when you started,explaining why you have a lover connection .
As i remember Kaschs first count was begining of day 2. Still i'm not sure or anything but you are my target for tonight(quiet possibly)

I don't see how being scum and having a lover connection have anything to do with each other?

But actually, please do a find on me - either you'll know for sure that I'm town or I'll know that you're lying and must be scum. It's perfect.

Are you actually saying that if i find out you are scum and say so in the thread, I'm scum?
Outstanding sophistry.
If you are scum its highly probable that you can speak with other scum outside thread.

[Kalse]

Kaschan, on 10 July 2012 - 03:33 AM, said:

So let's see, this is a chart of the ebb and flow of cult. I think the first day, only townies died. Day 2 one of the three who died was scum (wasn't me, probably wasn't Mr. Ectoplasm who just arrived on the scene, therefore it was our current Fener who was the cultist). Day 3, two scum had to be killed. That means 2 of the 3 added to SH are scum. And I'm not sure who...

The START: 2 cult (?)

The Not-So-Master Male Assassin, Mekin Zikulka aka Fener and FM [DEAD]
Poor Theftian Girl, Amee Najayin aka Eloth [DEAD]
Streaky haired Mage of Life and Death, Luvaya Fiodethel aka Kalse [DEAD]
Espers released, Cult can now begin recruiting

End of Day ONE: 2 cult
Night time: + 1 cult = 3 cult

Fenn Female, ____ aka Serc [DEAD] ===> now Fener
Scholar, Iddil Miratus aka Kaschan [DEAD]
Ectoplasmic Lich, Etyno aka Silanah/Thyrillan [DEAD]

-1 cult

End of Day TWO: 2 cult
Night time: + 1 cult = 3 cult

Scarred Capustanii Man, _____ aka Barghast [DEAD] ===> now Serc
Fistian Sexy Lady, Lily Garamonde aka Anomandaris [DEAD]
Heap of Rags with Deck and Tiles, Pang aka Osseric [DEAD]

- 2 cult

End of Day 3: 1 cult
Night time: +1 cult = 2 cult


UNKNOWN ===> now Barghast


Edit: Timing off on FM kills. Fixed

Notice the count here. Kaschan lives through night 1, says there are 2 scum alive after day 1 lynch. If I were scum, that would mean scum started with THREE cult members. The OP emphatically says that the cult start at an "extreme numerical disadvantage". 3/15 is not an extreme numerical disadvantage. Either Kasch is lying about the numbers or I can't be scum.

[Kalse]

Osseric, on 11 July 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

Osseric, on 11 July 2012 - 04:05 PM, said:

Its still possible that you were Scum when you started,explaining why you have a lover connection .
As i remember Kaschs first count was begining of day 2. Still i'm not sure or anything but you are my target for tonight(quiet possibly)

I don't see how being scum and having a lover connection have anything to do with each other?

But actually, please do a find on me - either you'll know for sure that I'm town or I'll know that you're lying and must be scum. It's perfect.

Are you actually saying that if i find out you are scum and say so in the thread, I'm scum?

Yes, but only because I've essentially proved that I'm town.

Quote

If you are scum its highly probable that you can speak with other scum outside thread.

That makes no sense at all and we've seen absolutely zero evidence of it. I'm the only one who's ever claimed to be able to speak to anyone else and if other scum have that ability, why haven't they revealed it too? I revealed mine right away because I knew it would help town. Your logic is flawed, but I think it's because you are wanting me to be scum. Just reread this thread and think about it.

However, I still suggest you do the find, if only to prove this to yourself.

[Kalse]

Osseric, on 11 July 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

Osseric, on 11 July 2012 - 04:05 PM, said:

Its still possible that you were Scum when you started,explaining why you have a lover connection .
As i remember Kaschs first count was begining of day 2. Still i'm not sure or anything but you are my target for tonight(quiet possibly)

I don't see how being scum and having a lover connection have anything to do with each other?

But actually, please do a find on me - either you'll know for sure that I'm town or I'll know that you're lying and must be scum. It's perfect.

Are you actually saying that if i find out you are scum and say so in the thread, I'm scum?
Outstanding sophistry.
If you are scum its highly probable that you can speak with other scum outside thread.

Also I don't think that you are scum, so I was being dramatic, but yeah, do a find on me so you can stop doubting.

[Osseric]

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 10 July 2012 - 03:33 AM, said:

So let's see, this is a chart of the ebb and flow of cult. I think the first day, only townies died. Day 2 one of the three who died was scum (wasn't me, probably wasn't Mr. Ectoplasm who just arrived on the scene, therefore it was our current Fener who was the cultist). Day 3, two scum had to be killed. That means 2 of the 3 added to SH are scum. And I'm not sure who...

The START: 2 cult (?)

The Not-So-Master Male Assassin, Mekin Zikulka aka Fener and FM [DEAD]
Poor Theftian Girl, Amee Najayin aka Eloth [DEAD]
Streaky haired Mage of Life and Death, Luvaya Fiodethel aka Kalse [DEAD]
Espers released, Cult can now begin recruiting

End of Day ONE: 2 cult
Night time: + 1 cult = 3 cult

Fenn Female, ____ aka Serc [DEAD] ===> now Fener
Scholar, Iddil Miratus aka Kaschan [DEAD]
Ectoplasmic Lich, Etyno aka Silanah/Thyrillan [DEAD]

-1 cult

End of Day TWO: 2 cult
Night time: + 1 cult = 3 cult

Scarred Capustanii Man, _____ aka Barghast [DEAD] ===> now Serc
Fistian Sexy Lady, Lily Garamonde aka Anomandaris [DEAD]
Heap of Rags with Deck and Tiles, Pang aka Osseric [DEAD]

- 2 cult

End of Day 3: 1 cult
Night time: +1 cult = 2 cult


UNKNOWN ===> now Barghast


Edit: Timing off on FM kills. Fixed

Notice the count here. Kaschan lives through night 1, says there are 2 scum alive after day 1 lynch. If I were scum, that would mean scum started with THREE cult members. The OP emphatically says that the cult start at an "extreme numerical disadvantage". 3/15 is not an extreme numerical disadvantage. Either Kasch is lying about the numbers or I can't be scum.

so you are saying extreme numerical disadvantage means exactly a disadvantage of 7.5to1 or more?

[Osseric]

Anyway i'm not saying you are scum for sure, i;m just saying that i have this bad feeling in my stomach when i want to vote after your votes and that makes me think ...