[Barghast]

Kaschan, on 11 July 2012 - 02:45 AM, said:

Barghast, on 11 July 2012 - 02:41 AM, said:

Anom died day 3. When she said that it was day 3. She said night 1 SL was town, and Night 2 Rashan. But that don't mean she was yelling the truth. I mean I did kill her becuase you guys said the sandy haired woman clutching the barbarian seemed scummy. So you may be right.

So we have 2 cult instead of 1? Unless you've been lying to us. If you've lied about cult numbers this whole time it'll really screw us over. Wouldn't that make it the cult recruiter AND Anom then? That would be 2. You're either purposely confusing us or something ain't right.

I think Driss is the purple haired woman. Liosan and you both think she's CL why? She is the only living person to vote for Liosan lynch. Liosan were you trying to take Rashan hostage with that illusion?

Kalse don't you think Driss is clear, though?

Unless Telas is the purple haired and Driss is barbarian?

Tellan is the one in the NS said she knew the bars would lift, but the scholar never said that.

Don't it have to be either SL, Driss, Rashan, Telas or Tellan?

Something seems odd about Tellan. She hardly made any cases. Rashan and SL are best guesses for best place to hide a CL. We dismiss a child and a man in white robes as good.

Tellan was cleared as town, Rashan and Telas and SL cleared as town, and Driss was doing the clearing.

So ill follow you guys with whoever. But how did you get one scum count of Anom and CL are scum?

I get the scum count right after a lynch. So between those two lynches, my scum count dropped from 2 to 1 (the only time it has dropped all game long). It is still 1 after that last lynch.

And Anom didn't return to the main thread till after my scum count, so she wouldn't show up on it. Plus, we have no explanation for her sudden switch with Amee who was Emur until Anom took over that body.

Are you misleading us on purpose man? You said it was ONE scum left after Liosan lynch. Anom was already in Emur.

What are you trying to pull?

[Kaschan]

Barghast, on 11 July 2012 - 02:50 AM, said:

Kaschan are you sure? You're the one that told me to vote for Thyrllan, so I did. You guys said kill sandy hair lady, I did. Said vote Osseric when I thought it was Tellan, I did. Said vote Liosan, I did.

So now Rashan? If you're sure say so. If you've been getting us to kill town on purpose though, it will become obvious sooner or later. And the ONLY time I died in my own body I did NOT CF scum.

So point, and ill vote/kill. Be fucking sure this time guys.

Dude, you are making my head spin. I've been tracking you all game long and have trouble landing on your alignment. I mean, I am a great believer in scum playing as town to fool everyone, but if you are scum, you have MoM from me. My word a migraine is coming ...

You see, my biggest problem is that we kept getting more and more info on you with every kill. And I was unsure what to do with the label of scum. At first, I thought that didn't apply to you while everything else obviously did. Which is why I trusted you, because my scum count wasn't going up, and I thought that maybe you were personally that lucky or knowledgeable, taking down two scum in quick succession.

And you did take out Ano, which makes my head spin.

But you also said you had to kill on a daily basis, right? And for some reason you stuck around in here... Why? I asked you flat out if you were still the FM, and you didn't answer. People have been assuming you are down there in Emur while you have been quietly watching up here. AND NOW YOU CHOOSE TO TALK? NOW?

Why? Why Brujah?

You have to be scum, that is the only way your CF's make sense. I don't believe you are that lucky. And you are definitely leading when you have our attention. Otherwise, you melt into the background.

Now don't give me the hurt "puppy eyes" of "You said you trusted me man, where's the love? I've done everything for you!!!"

Yes, you seem to have done everything for us. But we've been killing our own proficiently enough. It's a waiting game for you. And I've noticed that you haven't gone down to the main thread when I've threatened to kill you. Cause you know I have your mechanic figured out.

And I can kill you now. So go get Rashan. I'll make sure you follow close behind.

[Kaschan]

Barghast, on 11 July 2012 - 02:52 AM, said:

Kaschan, on 11 July 2012 - 02:45 AM, said:

Barghast, on 11 July 2012 - 02:41 AM, said:

Anom died day 3. When she said that it was day 3. She said night 1 SL was town, and Night 2 Rashan. But that don't mean she was yelling the truth. I mean I did kill her becuase you guys said the sandy haired woman clutching the barbarian seemed scummy. So you may be right.

So we have 2 cult instead of 1? Unless you've been lying to us. If you've lied about cult numbers this whole time it'll really screw us over. Wouldn't that make it the cult recruiter AND Anom then? That would be 2. You're either purposely confusing us or something ain't right.

I think Driss is the purple haired woman. Liosan and you both think she's CL why? She is the only living person to vote for Liosan lynch. Liosan were you trying to take Rashan hostage with that illusion?

Kalse don't you think Driss is clear, though?

Unless Telas is the purple haired and Driss is barbarian?

Tellan is the one in the NS said she knew the bars would lift, but the scholar never said that.

Don't it have to be either SL, Driss, Rashan, Telas or Tellan?

Something seems odd about Tellan. She hardly made any cases. Rashan and SL are best guesses for best place to hide a CL. We dismiss a child and a man in white robes as good.

Tellan was cleared as town, Rashan and Telas and SL cleared as town, and Driss was doing the clearing.

So ill follow you guys with whoever. But how did you get one scum count of Anom and CL are scum?

I get the scum count right after a lynch. So between those two lynches, my scum count dropped from 2 to 1 (the only time it has dropped all game long). It is still 1 after that last lynch.

And Anom didn't return to the main thread till after my scum count, so she wouldn't show up on it. Plus, we have no explanation for her sudden switch with Amee who was Emur until Anom took over that body.

Are you misleading us on purpose man? You said it was ONE scum left after Liosan lynch. Anom was already in Emur.

What are you trying to pull?

Hehe. Nice try. I get my info right after the lynch. Anom didn't replace Emur until the morning, after I got my cult count of 1, after we lynched Osseric. It's the same reason you stay off my radar Brujah

[Kaschan]

Siiiiiiiiiiigh. I should give up while I'm behind...

Anom was down there between my 1 and 1 cult counts... right?


I think I'll go to my corner and eat my own shit for a little while....

[Barghast]

Kaschan I'm not defending Rashan. Just the reasoning. You see your error now? Honest mistake or not, if Anom is scum, and Rashan is CL, then after Liosan lynch you would have.told us 2 scum, not only 1.

That being said we can still kill him next. Becuase all 5 candidates seem to have some kind of defense.

I'll follow you for now. I still wonder about SL, Driss, and Tellan, too. Telas the least so.

I wonder about Kalse's source, but I trust Kalse to make that decision.

So until a better case hits.

vote Rashan

[Barghast]

Also, Kaschan, I want to trust you, but you guys are so caught up in wondering if you can trust me, you forget I have to figure who to trust, too. You have to realize that when ask us to trust you, you're asking me to trust the ONE guy I thought was the Night 1 recruit. So look at this from a town point of view.

Kalse's source clears Tellan and Telas. Kalse asks us to clear Driss. Anom asks us to clear SL and Rashan. So all 5 are based off what someone else said.

Then you YOURSELF does a scum count right after Liosan's lynch and you say 1 scum. So if the 1 scum is the CL, how can you claim Anom is too? So you basically just cleared Anom to yourself. That is the only person to be cleared that isn't based off what someone else said. It's the only verifiable clear we even have, unless you're lying. Anom said SL was town night 1, Rashan night 2. And soon as you realize that Anom isn't scum, you automatically start coming up with reasons for us to lynch the only town target that you yourself can verify. I think you just slipped up bad, man.

[Fener]

Vote Tellan

Also thoughts from me.

As of yesterday there were more scum in here than out there. Looking at that train i'm sad I followed, my main point yesterday was that we follow their choice of lynch

[Fener]

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

Yes, that is killer information. I have independent confirmation that you can be trusted because you were town when you were lynched, therefore we can CI Thyr, Osseric, and myself right now, VPI Kaschan, and maybe PI Anom. Fener is up in the air just because there has been too much confusion from day 1 about who is in that alt.

Okay say Osseric and Thyr are PI'd. Fair enough. Why you? Why Kasch? Why Anom?

[Fener]

Kaschan, on 11 July 2012 - 01:55 AM, said:

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

Osseric, on 11 July 2012 - 12:04 AM, said:

Barghast, on 10 July 2012 - 11:56 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 10 July 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

Still just one scum guys. following that lynch.

What does that mean. If one of the resses was scum, that would have made 2 scum at least. So either Liosan was scum, or neither Ruse nor Anom in Emur was scum. Unless CF only applies to body. Becuase sorry Kaschan, if Ruse and Anom were both town, that means you and Barghast were scum.

??????????????????????
First time i have seen anything like this.

Don't forget that the FM may actually not be a scum role, which means that if Emur was replaced by the FM, the count could still be right.

Uh Kalse, the FM is still with us as Bargy for some reason.

Emur is right now Lily Garamonde, and Anom is right now Amee Najayin.

And Ruse is ElaidaRuta.

i'M ELAIDARUTA!

[Osseric]

FF6 stuff are all out of the window.
i think.

[Fener]

Osseric, on 11 July 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:

FF6 stuff are all out of the window.
i think.

she said only a hint of that would be in this game, maybe a name or something like that, not that much to go on.

[Kaschan]

Fener, on 11 July 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

Kaschan, on 11 July 2012 - 01:55 AM, said:

Kalse, on 11 July 2012 - 01:40 AM, said:

Osseric, on 11 July 2012 - 12:04 AM, said:

Barghast, on 10 July 2012 - 11:56 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 10 July 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

Still just one scum guys. following that lynch.

What does that mean. If one of the resses was scum, that would have made 2 scum at least. So either Liosan was scum, or neither Ruse nor Anom in Emur was scum. Unless CF only applies to body. Becuase sorry Kaschan, if Ruse and Anom were both town, that means you and Barghast were scum.

??????????????????????
First time i have seen anything like this.

Don't forget that the FM may actually not be a scum role, which means that if Emur was replaced by the FM, the count could still be right.

Uh Kalse, the FM is still with us as Bargy for some reason.

Emur is right now Lily Garamonde, and Anom is right now Amee Najayin.

And Ruse is ElaidaRuta.

i'M ELAIDARUTA!

Sorry Fener, ruse is the capustanii man. I'm trying really hard, see?

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[Kaschan]

Barghast, on 11 July 2012 - 04:16 AM, said:

Also, Kaschan, I want to trust you, but you guys are so caught up in wondering if you can trust me, you forget I have to figure who to trust, too. You have to realize that when ask us to trust you, you're asking me to trust the ONE guy I thought was the Night 1 recruit. So look at this from a town point of view.

Kalse's source clears Tellan and Telas. Kalse asks us to clear Driss. Anom asks us to clear SL and Rashan. So all 5 are based off what someone else said.

Then you YOURSELF does a scum count right after Liosan's lynch and you say 1 scum. So if the 1 scum is the CL, how can you claim Anom is too? So you basically just cleared Anom to yourself. That is the only person to be cleared that isn't based off what someone else said. It's the only verifiable clear we even have, unless you're lying. Anom said SL was town night 1, Rashan night 2. And soon as you realize that Anom isn't scum, you automatically start coming up with reasons for us to lynch the only town target that you yourself can verify. I think you just slipped up bad, man.

This is rich from a person with cult attached to his CFs.

Yes, I slipped up. I thought I had it all figured out, and now as you've pointed out, Anom doesn't look like scum according to my scum counts. which bothers me to no end. Begs the question, was Osseric then cult?

And I want to trust you Brujah, you have been very helpful to me, pointing out new ideas and mistakes in my current ones. I'm just trying to find a unifying theory that explains everything I've seen. And I just can't get my finger on it. Irks me to no end.

[Fener]

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I'm not on the same level as you kasch

[Fener]

I have no notes. I regret this. I wish we could start this game again so I can play better! D'rek has left me so far behind with this awesome game!!!

[Osseric]

Quick reveal by Tellan , what do you think of it?

[Fener]

Tellan, on 11 July 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

Don't lynch me. My role is that I pick who gets lynched when we no-lynch. My DoD card is Herald of Death. If you don't believe me, tell me who you want to lynch, (other than me) and let day timeout. When that person dies, it should clear me.

Hmm, interesting to see where this fits in peoples plans and if this is believed by everyone and it should verify a few things too

[Osseric]

Kalse, is Rashan your lover ?
From D'riss posts it seems he knew the scum number yesterday.

[Fener]

pERSONALLY I'M GOOD WITH EITHER A rASH OR A D'RISS VOTE. iN FACT WHOEVER THE MAJORITY OF YOU DECIDE, I'LL DECIDE ELSEWHERE. i WAS WANTING TO VOTE rASAHN A FEW DAYS AGO BUT WAS PERSAUDED BY A FEW OF YOU THAT HE IS OKAY.

[Osseric]

Turn the caps off man.