[Kalse]

Fener, on 10 July 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

Nor do I. Isn't he the other suspect?

Ok. We have some decisions to make here.

According to my lover, as of last night Tellan was an adventurer (town). Following our current logic, Liosan is the last cult and the recruiter. This dovetails nicely with everything we think we know, despite the clusterfuck on thread. I can also confirm the Eloth -> Anom switch.

Also...my lover said that Liosan has the ability to "take hostages". Sounds not-town to me, and could very well be the recruiter role, but my lover did not get his alignment.

Based on the lynch we saw, I think we can possibly trust Osseric at this point. Osseric, start talking so we can believe you and get some information to pull this together.

If my lover has been recruited or is somehow the cult leader, then I've been misled the whole game and we're fucked, but I have good reason to believe that is not the case and that this information is solid.

[Kalse]

I'm going to

Remove vote

Vote Liosan

to get people off Tellan for the moment hopefully and look hard at Lio. If I can trust my lover then Tellan is clear. Either the FM is town/neutral and just revealed from Emur's alt because D-Day is coming and didn't before because he was hunting scum (and found some, thank God); or the FM is total scum and has been lying the whole game, which makes things harder and the reveal on thread makes his position stronger. The FM business I am less worried about than the recruiter, who right now I think is Lio.

[Kalse]

I died day 1, from the failed lynch, and I don't know if I've said this before, but I actually believe the reason I died is because I was the first vote on the failed lynch. If the day times out without a lynch, person leading longest train dies. That sounds like a D'rek mechanic if I ever heard one. This also means I could not have ever been recruited, and my alt has never changed, so it should be clear that I'm town and can be trusted. The question is whether we can trust my lover, who is probably obvious by now but I could reveal for sure and also confirm who they are in the game thread (by description). I'd like to hear pros/cons on that.

[Kalse]

Kaschan, on 10 July 2012 - 11:03 AM, said:

Hmmm, an entirely side to side switch. Eloth (now Anom), I don't think that was the FM's doing. The pattern is wrong. It has to be a separate action.

As for who to trust up here, I think we need to get that straight today. Does anyone dispute my time chart showing cult counts as compared to when people died?

And if Anom is scum, we have a royal problem down there on thread....

I think that actually it could easily be the FM's doing. If the FM dies and jumps from SH, there is no one to kill, so instead the players just switch alts. Serc was resurrected as Ruse by an entirely separate action, probably by the recruiter? Or could be neutral Esper. Or could be fixed game mechanic. Serc appeared to be scum from his CF so I don't know that he was the FM in this thread. We know it was Barghast before, when he died; now the FM jumps again but he's already dead so no one else has to die to replace that balance. No alts, I mean. He also could have chosen Emur on purpose, if the FM is a town/neutral role, because he knew Eloth was not scum and therefore was safe to have down here in SH discussing things.

[Anomandaris]

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:

I died day 1, from the failed lynch, and I don't know if I've said this before, but I actually believe the reason I died is because I was the first vote on the failed lynch. If the day times out without a lynch, person leading longest train dies. That sounds like a D'rek mechanic if I ever heard one. This also means I could not have ever been recruited, and my alt has never changed, so it should be clear that I'm town and can be trusted. The question is whether we can trust my lover, who is probably obvious by now but I could reveal for sure and also confirm who they are in the game thread (by description). I'd like to hear pros/cons on that.

That makes sense, I am willing to postpone my own sense of who is scum in favor of:

Remove vote
vote Liosan.

But damn, I don't like Tellan.

[Thyrllan]

lio is hag.

is hag good or bad?

sorry @ work, can't post much

[Thyrllan]

there is also Telas. he is also unknown, right?

[Kalse]

News from above:

As of one day ago, Telas was town. Currently today Tellan is confirmed as town.

[Kalse]

Thyrllan, on 10 July 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

lio is hag.

is hag good or bad?

sorry @ work, can't post much

I'm playing games here, but hag to me means Rhea of the Coos, hoarding Maeryln's Grapefruit, with which she recruits her cult members. That = bad. But no proof.

My question to you is, why are you hesitant about Lio and who is your alternative target?

[Thyrllan]

i'm not. I thought he was scum yesterday, remember?

I wanted to put the info about him out there, to know if corroborates lynch or not (I know nada about FF)


if game-lore wise, hag=bad, it confirms my suspicion.


vote Liosan

[Kalse]

Ok. I don't know about lore-wise, or if that applies to the game on that level, but I feel confident about the Liosan vote. I'd like to hear others' thoughts though - especially Osseric, who hasn't said anything yet.

[Fener]

Vote Liosan

Vote Liosan on phone

This post has been edited by Fener: 10 July 2012 - 05:28 PM

[Osseric]

I'm here, sorry about all the delay.
Dammit, i hate being lynched.
Do i have to read all these pages?

[Kalse]

Before reading, tell us what you think the most important information you have is. I actually have some measure of trust in you right now, so anything you say will be helpful.

[Osseric]

Going to shower will be back soon.
Ask away and i will answer.
Although we do have 2 cult here, yes? I'm really confused.

PS: pls help! can someone explain ?

[Kalse]

Yes, there are potential cult here. We don't know how many exactly. Serc was probably cult and now he's Ruse on thread. However, it's more important to reveal information so that town can benefit from it than it is to be quiet because scum are about. The risk outweighs the reward in this special case - mostly because I have a lover connection with someone who is still alive and therefore I can pass information from dead people to the game thread.

So, speak!

[Osseric]

My most important info is that Bargh was FM at the end of last night.Really need to shower.

[Osseric]

I'm back. I really thought about my last post and i think it was pretty useless.

[Osseric]

Kalse, on 10 July 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

Before reading, tell us what you think the most important information you have is. I actually have some measure of trust in you right now, so anything you say will be helpful.

Why?

This post has been edited by Osseric: 10 July 2012 - 06:21 PM

[Osseric]

Anyone here?