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Mafia 89 - Espers Game Thread

#441 User is offline   Thyrllan 

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:02 PM

View PostBarghast, on 05 July 2012 - 02:56 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 05 July 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

I believe only players who don't go to spectre thread are those modkilled,

also, spectres don't influence the VC numbers.


how do you know these 2 things?



it's the bit of rules I know.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:05 PM

View PostSerc, on 05 July 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

Hmmm. Only have a few thoughts.

I sort of like Anomandaris's train of thought. The Osseric case by Kaschan being dropped MIGHT lead us somewhere. We could Lynch Osseric and maybe find out if Kaschan is still playing for our team. He's the only person who is verified to have some additional power the benefit us. Then again, we only felt that he really was town based on the fact that his reveal was factual. He claimed the scholar and was able to list the descriptions of everyone here. I see myself in his list, so its definately true, but we can't be 100 percent sure it's a town-side role/ability. Although I have to say it would be odd for it not to be.

With that said, even if he hasn't been, he will likely be a powerful recruit by cult. TMDI engage.

Perhaps we could pressure Osseric and find something out. Maybe not.

@Kaschan - I don't see where you got that Fener was looking for someone based on hair color. To me it is him playing up to the fact that he is. 'Not-so-master assassin.' In my opinion, he was just showing how stupid he was by forgetting the hair color.

I'm also worried about Thyrllan. He may be the neutral Apos-thing. If that is true then we don't have to worry. But he himself said he was freed by Fener's blood. Seems sort of Dark, imo. Please give is more, Thyr.


I haven't forgotten Osseric, for yesterday's fail to vote, and I agree that the heat just fell away from him after Kaschan's reveal, but that would make an awfully obvious connection between the two

You may be right about the neutral Apos-thing

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:06 PM

View PostBarghast, on 05 July 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostD, on 05 July 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

Well that was interesting.

After reading all of the deaths I started to think how is this game going to last. Now with the addition of Thy I think I might have figured it out. Thy said that he was talking to Fener in a SH that wasn't a SH. I think that players who aren't lynched will be brought back under a different alt. What mechanic will bring them back I don't know but since Fener's vote is being counted by PS. I think that the dead might also be able to vote once a day. I would hazard to think that the newly reborn players wouldn't be cult.


I am a little hesitant to go looking to lynch female players seeing as though we would only have a 1 in 3 chance of lynching the scum esper's host.


Thoughts?


This is the second person to say that those fresh from SH/limbo/whatever death are probably not cult. This may be true for the first instance because of game balance (Thyr) but later people who move out of there I will consider equally suspect unless further info is presented about it


I htink it's safe to say that if we keep reshuffling alts, then those players who died and CFed non-adventurers (i.e., cult), will come back as cult.

I don't know if the Bahamut can recruit spectres.

I suspect D'rek kept the actual spoilers for the game in the dev forum, b/c as a spectre I couldn't see that thread in SH.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:11 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 05 July 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 05 July 2012 - 02:56 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 05 July 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

I believe only players who don't go to spectre thread are those modkilled,

also, spectres don't influence the VC numbers.



how do you know these 2 things?



it's the bit of rules I know.


Well is there anything else you can tell us? We're all fairly clueless right now. Are there other rules you know that you can share that won't hurt?

Hmmm. This is bizarre. For now, it would seem that Thyrllan is possibly the neutral Apos, can you confirm or deny that? Because we would automatically be wary of any new characters like you. But that would be counter-productive so...

I'm spinning in circles here. I guess we have to wait and see if more new characters arrive. I guess having them come back in different names is to help them to remain somewhat hidden. Yet Thyrllan told us he was Silanah. Maybe he is. Maybe he's not.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:11 PM

X-post.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:14 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 05 July 2012 - 03:06 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 05 July 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostD, on 05 July 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

Well that was interesting.

After reading all of the deaths I started to think how is this game going to last. Now with the addition of Thy I think I might have figured it out. Thy said that he was talking to Fener in a SH that wasn't a SH. I think that players who aren't lynched will be brought back under a different alt. What mechanic will bring them back I don't know but since Fener's vote is being counted by PS. I think that the dead might also be able to vote once a day. I would hazard to think that the newly reborn players wouldn't be cult.


I am a little hesitant to go looking to lynch female players seeing as though we would only have a 1 in 3 chance of lynching the scum esper's host.


Thoughts?


This is the second person to say that those fresh from SH/limbo/whatever death are probably not cult. This may be true for the first instance because of game balance (Thyr) but later people who move out of there I will consider equally suspect unless further info is presented about it


I htink it's safe to say that if we keep reshuffling alts, then those players who died and CFed non-adventurers (i.e., cult), will come back as cult.

I don't know if the Bahamut can recruit spectres.

I suspect D'rek kept the actual spoilers for the game in the dev forum, b/c as a spectre I couldn't see that thread in SH.


That contradicts what you told us earlier about who sent you back here.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:21 PM

View PostD, on 05 July 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 05 July 2012 - 03:06 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 05 July 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostD, on 05 July 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

Well that was interesting.

After reading all of the deaths I started to think how is this game going to last. Now with the addition of Thy I think I might have figured it out. Thy said that he was talking to Fener in a SH that wasn't a SH. I think that players who aren't lynched will be brought back under a different alt. What mechanic will bring them back I don't know but since Fener's vote is being counted by PS. I think that the dead might also be able to vote once a day. I would hazard to think that the newly reborn players wouldn't be cult.


I am a little hesitant to go looking to lynch female players seeing as though we would only have a 1 in 3 chance of lynching the scum esper's host.


Thoughts?


This is the second person to say that those fresh from SH/limbo/whatever death are probably not cult. This may be true for the first instance because of game balance (Thyr) but later people who move out of there I will consider equally suspect unless further info is presented about it


I htink it's safe to say that if we keep reshuffling alts, then those players who died and CFed non-adventurers (i.e., cult), will come back as cult.

I don't know if the Bahamut can recruit spectres.

I suspect D'rek kept the actual spoilers for the game in the dev forum, b/c as a spectre I couldn't see that thread in SH.


That contradicts what you told us earlier about who sent you back here.



well, that' the thing: I don't know how the "back to life" mechanic works.

I was playing the game from the start. I'm an adventurer. I just happened to be a Lich, and started the game dead.

If understood the Apostleyids correctly, they inhabit living players, not give flesh to spirits.

I started the game without a body (hence you couldn't see me, so I wasn't allowed to speak to the game thread). Now I have a body, and it's not one of those that belonged to any of the adventurers that were on thread on Day 1.
I don't know how I got the body, but I don't think Apostleyids have the power to conjure up bodies out of nothing.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:34 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 05 July 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:

View PostD, on 05 July 2012 - 03:14 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 05 July 2012 - 03:06 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 05 July 2012 - 02:48 PM, said:

View PostD, on 05 July 2012 - 01:03 PM, said:

Well that was interesting.

After reading all of the deaths I started to think how is this game going to last. Now with the addition of Thy I think I might have figured it out. Thy said that he was talking to Fener in a SH that wasn't a SH. I think that players who aren't lynched will be brought back under a different alt. What mechanic will bring them back I don't know but since Fener's vote is being counted by PS. I think that the dead might also be able to vote once a day. I would hazard to think that the newly reborn players wouldn't be cult.


I am a little hesitant to go looking to lynch female players seeing as though we would only have a 1 in 3 chance of lynching the scum esper's host.


Thoughts?


This is the second person to say that those fresh from SH/limbo/whatever death are probably not cult. This may be true for the first instance because of game balance (Thyr) but later people who move out of there I will consider equally suspect unless further info is presented about it


I htink it's safe to say that if we keep reshuffling alts, then those players who died and CFed non-adventurers (i.e., cult), will come back as cult.

I don't know if the Bahamut can recruit spectres.

I suspect D'rek kept the actual spoilers for the game in the dev forum, b/c as a spectre I couldn't see that thread in SH.


That contradicts what you told us earlier about who sent you back here.



well, that' the thing: I don't know how the "back to life" mechanic works.

I was playing the game from the start. I'm an adventurer. I just happened to be a Lich, and started the game dead.

If understood the Apostleyids correctly, they inhabit living players, not give flesh to spirits.

I started the game without a body (hence you couldn't see me, so I wasn't allowed to speak to the game thread). Now I have a body, and it's not one of those that belonged to any of the adventurers that were on thread on Day 1.
I don't know how I got the body, but I don't think Apostleyids have the power to conjure up bodies out of nothing.


Well isn't that a bugger. I also doubt that the espers are able to conjure up the dead. I think that it is another mechanic in play.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:46 PM

Which leads us where, people? Any lynch candidates? We want to leave it to random chance again?

No one wants to step up. Hell, I don't blame you. My initial thought is that those of us partipating in the discussion are more likely town. Thought we can't rule anyone out. It's probable that scum are now remaining quiet, and just sporadically popping up. Although we also can't be sure.

Osseric I am going to vote for you just for now. I will remove it after I hear from you. Ano, Barg, Fener, maybe SL and Liosan all at one time view something about you scummy.

vote Osseric

I'd also like to hear more from Kaschan, and Thyr.

Were you defending Tellan, Thyr?

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 03:50 PM

Should we lynch Thyrllan just to find out what happens ?

So Thyrllan, you're saying you're just regular townie?

If he is, then definately no. But all we have is his word.

I guess RIGHT NOW, I'd go with Osseric just as our best guess, Thyrllan for information, Tellan possibly(not sure why, gut), or even Kaschan as a potential powerful recruit.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:00 PM

I'm not doing this alone. I'm putting myself out there.

Anyone else have thoughts? Mine are all conjectures. I'd appreciate being able to shape my ideas based on others.

5 people watching. I don't know if I'll be able to be on later.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:00 PM

I'll comment after I shower

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:01 PM

It is Day 2. 9 hours 22 mins remaining.
12 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Kaschan, Liosan, Osseric, Rashan, Serc, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Tellan, Thyrllan

8 votes to lynch.

1 Vote for Kaschan ( Rashan )
2 Votes for Osseric ( Anomandaris, Serc )
3 Votes for Thyrllan ( Kalse, Eloth, Fener )

-Grief
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:02 PM

View PostSerc, on 05 July 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:

Should we lynch Thyrllan just to find out what happens ?

So Thyrllan, you're saying you're just regular townie?

If he is, then definately no. But all we have is his word.

I guess RIGHT NOW, I'd go with Osseric just as our best guess, Thyrllan for information, Tellan possibly(not sure why, gut), or even Kaschan as a potential powerful recruit.


I would personally like to see what happens to Thyrllan if we lynch him, so I'm going to go ahead and

vote Thyrllan

again. I agree with Telas that he may actually be town, but I am not 100% sure of that, and I'd like to see what happens to him if we lynch him. Could be useful information down the road when others start popping back up from the Spectre forum.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:04 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 July 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 9 hours 22 mins remaining.
12 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Kaschan, Liosan, Osseric, Rashan, Serc, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Tellan, Thyrllan

8 votes to lynch.

1 Vote for Kaschan ( Rashan )
2 Votes for Osseric ( Anomandaris, Serc )
3 Votes for Thyrllan ( Kalse, Eloth, Fener )

-Grief


That is very very interesting. All of the dead are voting for the player who came back. I seriously doubt that any of them were cult when they where killed.


Vote Thyrllan

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:07 PM

Sounds like a plan. I mean even Thyrllan has to understand our doubts.

Based on D'riss and SL's logic from above.

remove vote
Vote Thyrllan


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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:10 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 July 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 9 hours 22 mins remaining.
12 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Kaschan, Liosan, Osseric, Rashan, Serc, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Tellan, Thyrllan

8 votes to lynch.

1 Vote for Kaschan ( Rashan )
2 Votes for Osseric ( Anomandaris, Serc )
3 Votes for Thyrllan ( Kalse, Eloth, Fener )

-Grief



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View PostSerc, on 05 July 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:

Should we lynch Thyrllan just to find out what happens ?

So Thyrllan, you're saying you're just regular townie?

If he is, then definately no. But all we have is his word.

I guess RIGHT NOW, I'd go with Osseric just as our best guess, Thyrllan for information, Tellan possibly(not sure why, gut), or even Kaschan as a potential powerful recruit.


I would personally like to see what happens to Thyrllan if we lynch him, so I'm going to go ahead and

vote Thyrllan

again. I agree with Telas that he may actually be town, but I am not 100% sure of that, and I'd like to see what happens to him if we lynch him. Could be useful information down the road when others start popping back up from the Spectre forum.


It worries me that everyone in the spectre thread (the dead people) is voting for Thyrllan.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:11 PM

Also, with 8 votes to lynch, and 3 from dead people, it only takes 5 I'm guessing?

Going to make lynching much easier. I hope they know something we don't.

Guess if they're wrong, we at least know who not to trust.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:13 PM

Catching up and analyzing now.

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 04:13 PM

View PostSheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:10 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on 05 July 2012 - 04:01 PM, said:

It is Day 2. 9 hours 22 mins remaining.
12 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Kaschan, Liosan, Osseric, Rashan, Serc, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Tellan, Thyrllan

8 votes to lynch.

1 Vote for Kaschan ( Rashan )
2 Votes for Osseric ( Anomandaris, Serc )
3 Votes for Thyrllan ( Kalse, Eloth, Fener )

-Grief



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View PostSerc, on 05 July 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:

Should we lynch Thyrllan just to find out what happens ?

So Thyrllan, you're saying you're just regular townie?

If he is, then definately no. But all we have is his word.

I guess RIGHT NOW, I'd go with Osseric just as our best guess, Thyrllan for information, Tellan possibly(not sure why, gut), or even Kaschan as a potential powerful recruit.


I would personally like to see what happens to Thyrllan if we lynch him, so I'm going to go ahead and

vote Thyrllan

again. I agree with Telas that he may actually be town, but I am not 100% sure of that, and I'd like to see what happens to him if we lynch him. Could be useful information down the road when others start popping back up from the Spectre forum.


It worries me that everyone in the spectre thread (the dead people) is voting for Thyrllan.


Worry as in we shouldn't trust them ?

Or we shouldn't trust Thyrllan?

We need to make up our minds quick.

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