[Sheltatha Lore]

Osseric, on 05 July 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

Okay, I have another theory re: resurrections. Could be completely off, but hey, just speculating.

What if it's the neutral Apostl'eyd that does the resurrection, but that it changes which side it resurrects to every time it happens? What if Thyrllan was the first, so was resurrected on the cult side, but that the next will be resurrected on town side? Gah, this is so confusing!!!

But I still think that lynching Thyrllan is a good idea.

It's possible.
but why do you think first res will be cult?

Eh, just making an assumption. I really have no idea at all. Why you so intent on protecting Thyrllan? Do you know something we don't?

[Serc]

Tellan, on 05 July 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 04 July 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

And as the scholar, I do have one other thing to add. One of my abilities is deduction, which allows me to have a head count on cult. Currently, as of the end of day 1, there are 2 scum players. If I have other roles, you will have to wait until I find it expedient to reveal them.

I wanted to reveal since my role is helpful, but not yet integral to towns success. But also, the description in the narrative matches who I am, so I assume the same is true for other people.

Here is where he gave the number of cult. He said there were 2, and I assume that as PS said one Apostley gives the scum the "regular recruit ability" that each night they would be able to recruit 1 player, so now during day 2 they have 3 cultists.

Then you're brilliant. Nice work, Tellan. You're officially no longer pinging my radar as much. You're math skills are unsurpassed.

@Osseric - You're one to talk. I can't even understand half of what you're trying to convey.

[D'riss]

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

Okay, I have another theory re: resurrections. Could be completely off, but hey, just speculating.

What if it's the neutral Apostl'eyd that does the resurrection, but that it changes which side it resurrects to every time it happens? What if Thyrllan was the first, so was resurrected on the cult side, but that the next will be resurrected on town side? Gah, this is so confusing!!!

But I still think that lynching Thyrllan is a good idea.

From the OP

Quote

One of the Apostl'eyds can only be hosted by Bahamudites and provides the main recruiting ability. The other two Apostl'eyds can only be hosted by Adventurers - one Apostl'ey provides a(n) ability(ies) to help the Adventurers against the Bahamudites and the other Apostl'ey is kinda neutral (but can still only be hosted by an Adventurer, so will benefit the Adventurers more if used well)

The neutral can only be hosted by an adventurer who can influence the apostl'ey. So I would hope that the esper hosting the neutral Apostl'ey can direct who is resurrected.

[Osseric]

@Serc
sorry about last 2 paragraphs of that post.but you really can't write WIFOM understandable .
Read it with a little patience and you will get it.




Edit:added the @serc

This post has been edited by Osseric: 05 July 2012 - 04:44 PM

[Osseric]

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

Osseric, on 05 July 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

Okay, I have another theory re: resurrections. Could be completely off, but hey, just speculating.

What if it's the neutral Apostl'eyd that does the resurrection, but that it changes which side it resurrects to every time it happens? What if Thyrllan was the first, so was resurrected on the cult side, but that the next will be resurrected on town side? Gah, this is so confusing!!!

But I still think that lynching Thyrllan is a good idea.

It's possible.
but why do you think first res will be cult?

Eh, just making an assumption. I really have no idea at all. Why you so intent on protecting Thyrllan? Do you know something we don't?

ok,answer that for yourself and i will reveal what i know that you don't.

[Serc]

Three cult, then eh Osseric.

Thyrllan, Tellan, and Osseric?

Thyrllan defended Tellan from Kaschan. Tellan and Osseric defending Thyrllan.

Let's string up one of them. We all know that scum are the ones usually knowing who to lynch, and that's why no one wants to be seen as the head-hunter, but this game having the random lynch on a failed lynch changes things quite a lot.

But I'll let cooler heads prevail. How sure are you Tellan and Osseric about your feelings on Thyrllan being town?

[Barghast]

something is off here

3 votes in like 10 minutes with 8 hours left in day?

[Tellan]

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

Three cult, then eh Osseric.

Thyrllan, Tellan, and Osseric?

Thyrllan defended Tellan from Kaschan. Tellan and Osseric defending Thyrllan.

Let's string up one of them. We all know that scum are the ones usually knowing who to lynch, and that's why no one wants to be seen as the head-hunter, but this game having the random lynch on a failed lynch changes things quite a lot.

But I'll let cooler heads prevail. How sure are you Tellan and Osseric about your feelings on Thyrllan being town?

Seriously man, if you've read my last 5-ish posts, I am completely fine with lynching Thyrllan. I have no abnormally strong feelings that Thyrllan is town.

[Serc]

Barghast, on 05 July 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

something is off here

3 votes in like 10 minutes with 8 hours left in day?

We should wait for the others?

Barg, not feeling Thyrllan?

Anyone you are feeling?

We may need to wait for the others. Especially if Kaschan has something that can help.

But I don't mind getting lynched by you guys, but no one wants to be randomly lynched I'm sure.

We do have time, people.

[Tellan]

Barghast, on 05 July 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

something is off here

3 votes in like 10 minutes with 8 hours left in day?

Yeah, seems a bit fishy. It would've been better to build consensus first and then vote to lynch Thyr. Those 3 in a row could implicate those 3 together

[Serc]

Tellan, on 05 July 2012 - 04:56 PM, said:

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

Three cult, then eh Osseric.

Thyrllan, Tellan, and Osseric?

Thyrllan defended Tellan from Kaschan. Tellan and Osseric defending Thyrllan.

Let's string up one of them. We all know that scum are the ones usually knowing who to lynch, and that's why no one wants to be seen as the head-hunter, but this game having the random lynch on a failed lynch changes things quite a lot.

But I'll let cooler heads prevail. How sure are you Tellan and Osseric about your feelings on Thyrllan being town?

Seriously man, if you've read my last 5-ish posts, I am completely fine with lynching Thyrllan. I have no abnormally strong feelings that Thyrllan is town.

I'm aware of this, Tellan. We're all playing the "pressure for info" game. I am slightly less worried about you now, though.

But we can't discount anyone. I think scum may be hiding . Why would they even submit themselves to scrutiny this early.

The only problem is that leaves us back to square one. Tellan what about Osseric?

Thyrllan. What about you? You defended Tellan it seemed, but any thoughts on Osseric or anyone else?

You never said why the three dead people would be voting for you, or did I miss that?

[Serc]

Tellan, on 05 July 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

Barghast, on 05 July 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

something is off here

3 votes in like 10 minutes with 8 hours left in day?

Yeah, seems a bit fishy. It would've been better to build consensus first and then vote to lynch Thyr. Those 3 in a row could implicate those 3 together

I think everyone was aware of this though, Tellan. I think the choice for Thyrllan for those alive was to seek information. We would see what happens to someone who comes from SH who is killed. We would find out hopefully something about Thyrllan, and then if he wasn't cult we at least could have a healthy distrust for those three dead people.

The question isn't really is Thyrllan cult or town, it's who would be a better choice?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 2. 8 hours and 15 minutes remaining
12 Players still alive: Anomandaris, Barghast, D'riss, Kaschan, Liosan, Osseric, Rashan, Serc, Sheltatha Lore, Telas, Tellan, Thyrllan

8 votes to lynch.

1 Vote for Kaschan ( Rashan )
1 Vote for Osseric ( Anomandaris )
6 Votes for Thyrllan ( Kalse, Eloth, Fener, Sheltatha Lore, D'riss, Serc )

[Tellan]

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 05:05 PM, said:

Tellan, on 05 July 2012 - 04:58 PM, said:

Barghast, on 05 July 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

something is off here

3 votes in like 10 minutes with 8 hours left in day?

Yeah, seems a bit fishy. It would've been better to build consensus first and then vote to lynch Thyr. Those 3 in a row could implicate those 3 together

I think everyone was aware of this though, Tellan. I think the choice for Thyrllan for those alive was to seek information. We would see what happens to someone who comes from SH who is killed. We would find out hopefully something about Thyrllan, and then if he wasn't cult we at least could have a healthy distrust for those three dead people.

The question isn't really is Thyrllan cult or town, it's who would be a better choice?

I know that. That's why I will vote for Thyrllan when we get lower on time.

[Serc]

Well I'm not really asking you to vote for him. I'd rather we heard from the others. If 2 of them like the case, they can hammer.

The pressure might help for now. Someone may be holding back. But then again it may be we don't want them to reveal.

We can't sit on what ifs, though.

I think it might help to start trying to figure out the mechanics. I mean if dead people keep getting new bodies, then how do we really kill someone. Silanah became Thyrllan after three deaths. So maybe it's every three deaths. I would think IF we do see more people emerge from SH, it seems they would have to be town. If they were cult, we'd know if we lynched one. So you say it would be unfair if they were all town, but maybe not. They would still be recruitable, and as long as it didn't happen so often, it wouldn't upset the balance to much. The OP says there is a townie Apos that is able to help town against cult. Maybe he helps by bringing back town every so often. I'm stretching here but what else can we focus on. I think for now its mechanics.

Now the other theory is that we can't really kill players until we do something. For example Fener breaking the sphere. Maybe Thyrllan is the Lord of SH, and we have to kill him to unlock something else. I just find it hard to believe for us to favorably view any new player introduced after game start. At least until we're sure.

My vote is for Thyrllan, not so much as his faction, but for information.

I know that's a horrible way to go, but unless we find a better idea what are our other choices?

[Anomandaris]

Wow, three votes in less than 10 minutes to put a player at L-2.
I see why you would follow when all dead people are starting a train, but so far we don't know if they have more information than we do.
Since apparently it doesn't matter if Thyr is scum or town (I'm paraphrasing Serc here), could you please explain what exactly you hope to learn from lynching him?

[Thyrllan]

Path-Shaper, on 04 July 2012 - 04:27 AM, said:

Everyone lays on the ground, hands covering their faces, as shards of glass and stone ricochet overhead in a deadly hail. Most are silent, but one member of the group shrieks loudly and audibly.

"GHOST! GHOST! THERE'S A SHADE ATTACKING ME!"

Some concerned adventurers peek around between their fingers, but they don't see any ghosts. Well, that shrieking woman seemed pretty weird anyways - darker skinned than seems possible and dressed in desert robes despite the cold winds that come to Moll from the Stormrider straits? Yup, definitely just a crazy, they thought and went back to huddling in the fetal position.

this is who Tellan is

darker skinned than seems possible woudl suggest Dal Hon/Tiste Andii--not necessaritly Seven Cities.

Votes on Tellan were based off him being the 7C women clinging to the Barbarian. I'm not sure that is the case, and I wrote down as much.

believe it or not, I'm just trying to be useful.

I'm not sure what happens once you lynch me, but given i'm supposed to be a lich, I'm not sure that'll kill me. just throwing it out there.

[Tellan]

Anomandaris, on 05 July 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Wow, three votes in less than 10 minutes to put a player at L-2.
I see why you would follow when all dead people are starting a train, but so far we don't know if they have more information than we do.
Since apparently it doesn't matter if Thyr is scum or town (I'm paraphrasing Serc here), could you please explain what exactly you hope to learn from lynching him?

We want to see what happens when we lynch an ex spectre. To see whether they die for good, go back to the spectre subforum, or whatever else could happen. Also, there is always the chance that the dead players know something we don't.

[Anomandaris]

Osseric, on 05 July 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

First thing:The reason i did not vote last day was because i didn't want to follow the dead.if you read my posts carefully you will see i never defended Kaschan.i just pointed out that Silanah could be cult and its really foolish to follow a Dead guy to see what will happen.
Second thing:voting thyr because you want to see what will happen if you lynch him is really useless,either we lynch him and he drops out of game or we lynch him and he goes back to spectre thread,eh? so what will we get?
accusing me of defending kaschan then recruiting him overnight is really foolish.if i was CL i wouldn't know town roles now would i?so i wouldn't know that kaschan has such abilities anda CL wouldn't risk himself for a potential recruit.
Also a cult member will not put his neck out so early in game even for someone who is the CL because if you kill CL the Aposthingie will just hop to someone else but if you defend you will get unwanted suspicion on both cult members the first day.
Edit:just some grammar

I admit, it would be weird, but then, people are weird. I#ll leave my vote on you for now, until I hear from Kaschan. After all, my vote is more based on his behavior then yours.

[D'riss]

Thyrllan, on 05 July 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 04 July 2012 - 04:27 AM, said:

Everyone lays on the ground, hands covering their faces, as shards of glass and stone ricochet overhead in a deadly hail. Most are silent, but one member of the group shrieks loudly and audibly.

"GHOST! GHOST! THERE'S A SHADE ATTACKING ME!"

Some concerned adventurers peek around between their fingers, but they don't see any ghosts. Well, that shrieking woman seemed pretty weird anyways - darker skinned than seems possible and dressed in desert robes despite the cold winds that come to Moll from the Stormrider straits? Yup, definitely just a crazy, they thought and went back to huddling in the fetal position.

this is who Tellan is

darker skinned than seems possible woudl suggest Dal Hon/Tiste Andii--not necessaritly Seven Cities.

Votes on Tellan were based off him being the 7C women clinging to the Barbarian. I'm not sure that is the case, and I wrote down as much.

believe it or not, I'm just trying to be useful.

I'm not sure what happens once you lynch me, but given i'm supposed to be a lich, I'm not sure that'll kill me. just throwing it out there.

Why do you think that everyone else in limbo are voting for you?