[Sheltatha Lore]

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

Worry as in we shouldn't trust them ?

Or we shouldn't trust Thyrllan?

We need to make up our minds quick.

Well, I'm trying to come up with a good reason why they would be voting for Thyrllan. Like, if they're all townies, then does that mean that when people get resurrected they end up being recruited? Does it mean that no one else can be resurrected as long as Thyrllan is still alive? Like, what information do they have that we don't? What have they got against Thyrllan? I hate putting a vote down when I don't know the motivations of everyone else who is voting.

That being said, I think that a Thyrllan lynch will still provide a good amount of information that will be useful going forward, so I will leave my vote there for now.

[Serc]

Thyrllan, you were in SH with all three dead guys. Why would they vote for you?

[Tellan]

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 03:46 PM, said:

Which leads us where, people? Any lynch candidates? We want to leave it to random chance again?

No one wants to step up. Hell, I don't blame you. My initial thought is that those of us partipating in the discussion are more likely town. Thought we can't rule anyone out. It's probable that scum are now remaining quiet, and just sporadically popping up. Although we also can't be sure.

Osseric I am going to vote for you just for now. I will remove it after I hear from you. Ano, Barg, Fener, maybe SL and Liosan all at one time view something about you scummy.

vote Osseric

I'd also like to hear more from Kaschan, and Thyr.

Were you defending Tellan, Thyr?

I think voting Osseric is a good idea based on the Kaschan connection, but out of the players you listed viewing him scummy,about half of them I felt slightly uneasy about (gut only though) (SL, Barg, and Fener was just not helping discussion when alive)

[Barghast]

My choices would be Osseric for yesterdays lynch scenario and Tellan, who I am thinking is the sandy haired woman who is probably cult

to lynch just to find out what happens is not very appealing to me, with Thyr slowly coming off more info - but with all the dead voting for him, ye gods that's weird
I am also curious to see what happens

[Osseric]

First thing:The reason i did not vote last day was because i didn't want to follow the dead.if you read my posts carefully you will see i never defended Kaschan.i just pointed out that Silanah could be cult and its really foolish to follow a Dead guy to see what will happen.
Second thing:voting thyr because you want to see what will happen if you lynch him is really useless,either we lynch him and he drops out of game or we lynch him and he goes back to spectre thread,eh? so what will we get?
accusing me of defending kaschan then recruiting him overnight is really foolish.if i was CL i wouldn't know town roles now would i?so i wouldn't know that kaschan has such abilities anda CL wouldn't risk himself for a potential recruit.
Also a cult member will not put his neck out so early in game even for someone who is the CL because if you kill CL the Aposthingie will just hop to someone else but if you defend you will get unwanted suspicion on both cult members the first day.
Edit:just some grammar

This post has been edited by Osseric: 05 July 2012 - 04:18 PM

[Tellan]

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 03:50 PM, said:

Should we lynch Thyrllan just to find out what happens ?

So Thyrllan, you're saying you're just regular townie?

If he is, then definately no. But all we have is his word.

I guess RIGHT NOW, I'd go with Osseric just as our best guess, Thyrllan for information, Tellan possibly(not sure why, gut), or even Kaschan as a potential powerful recruit.

I would personally like to see what happens to Thyrllan if we lynch him, so I'm going to go ahead and

vote Thyrllan

again. I agree with Telas that he may actually be town, but I am not 100% sure of that, and I'd like to see what happens to him if we lynch him. Could be useful information down the road when others start popping back up from the Spectre forum.

This logic really makes sense (the end part, not me being a good lynch choice ) because knowing what lynching an ex spectre does can help us make better decisions in the future. However, I'd rather not put a vote down yet

[Serc]

D'rek's over complication of this game may be its weak spot. Let's crack this game, make some fucking breakfast, roast scum before they even know what to do, and revel in our gloryluck!

[Osseric]

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:

Also, with 8 votes to lynch, and 3 from dead people, it only takes 5 I'm guessing?

Going to make lynching much easier. I hope they know something we don't.

Guess if they're wrong, we at least know who not to trust.

How the hell will you find out if they are wrong?

[Sheltatha Lore]

Osseric, on 05 July 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

First thing:The reason i did not vote last day was because i didn't want to follow the dead.if you read my posts carefully you will see i never defended Kaschan.i just pointed out that Silanah could be cult and its really foolish to follow a Dead guy to see what will happen.
Second thing:voting thyr because you want to see what will happen if you lynch him is really useless,either we lynch him and he drops out of game or we lynch him and he goes back to spectre thread,eh? so what will we get?
accusing me of defending kaschan then recruiting him overnight is really foolish.if i was CL i wouldn't know town roles now would i?so i wouldn't know that kaschan has such abilities anda CL wouldn't risk himself for a potential recruit.
Also a cult member will not put his neck out so early in game even for someone who is the CL because if you kill CL the Aposthingie will just hop to someone else but if you defend you will get unwanted suspicion on both cult members the first day.
Edit:just some grammar

We will know if lynching someone who has been resurrected means they die, or if it means they just go back to Spectre Thread. If I'm not mistaken, Thyrllan said he can't go back to Spectre thread. It would be interesting to see if that's true. We aren't sure that Thyrllan isn't cult, so it's possible that we would be ridding ourselves of a cult. Either way, we need to figure out exactly how someone can be killed in order to win this game, and I think that lynching Thyrllan provides us with the most information on that front.

[Osseric]

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:21 PM, said:

Osseric, on 05 July 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

First thing:The reason i did not vote last day was because i didn't want to follow the dead.if you read my posts carefully you will see i never defended Kaschan.i just pointed out that Silanah could be cult and its really foolish to follow a Dead guy to see what will happen.
Second thing:voting thyr because you want to see what will happen if you lynch him is really useless,either we lynch him and he drops out of game or we lynch him and he goes back to spectre thread,eh? so what will we get?
accusing me of defending kaschan then recruiting him overnight is really foolish.if i was CL i wouldn't know town roles now would i?so i wouldn't know that kaschan has such abilities anda CL wouldn't risk himself for a potential recruit.
Also a cult member will not put his neck out so early in game even for someone who is the CL because if you kill CL the Aposthingie will just hop to someone else but if you defend you will get unwanted suspicion on both cult members the first day.
Edit:just some grammar

We will know if lynching someone who has been resurrected means they die, or if it means they just go back to Spectre Thread. If I'm not mistaken, Thyrllan said he can't go back to Spectre thread. It would be interesting to see if that's true. We aren't sure that Thyrllan isn't cult, so it's possible that we would be ridding ourselves of a cult. Either way, we need to figure out exactly how someone can be killed in order to win this game, and I think that lynching Thyrllan provides us with the most information on that front.

ok ,i agree with you on that point.but still all dead voting him is suspicious .

[D'riss]

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:16 PM, said:

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

Worry as in we shouldn't trust them ?

Or we shouldn't trust Thyrllan?

We need to make up our minds quick.

Well, I'm trying to come up with a good reason why they would be voting for Thyrllan. Like, if they're all townies, then does that mean that when people get resurrected they end up being recruited? Does it mean that no one else can be resurrected as long as Thyrllan is still alive? Like, what information do they have that we don't? What have they got against Thyrllan? I hate putting a vote down when I don't know the motivations of everyone else who is voting.

That being said, I think that a Thyrllan lynch will still provide a good amount of information that will be useful going forward, so I will leave my vote there for now.

If everyone who dies is in the cult then this game will be over in a matter of days not weeks. I would also like to hear from thy why everyone who is now in the death realm wants him lynched.

[Tellan]

Also, the fact that all three spectres are voting Thyr is undeniably important. While it is a bad idea to just follow dead guys blindly, we can't ignore their votes. For me, they reinforce my opinion that we should vote Thyrllan. If you wonder why I haven't voted yet, its because we still have 9 hours and we are at L2.

Also, I don't think they will all be cult, if any of them are, as Kaschan ( who is probably the scholar whose ability shows the amount of cultists) said that there were 3 cultists (i think) and all 3 would most likely not be in spectre land as we wouldn't be able to win then.

[Serc]

We're split, people. Either those against Thyrllans lynch are his scum followers AND are stupid enough to out themselves like that, or they either know something or they just don't feel it.

Here's a nice tid-bit: Thyrllan and Tellan have defended each other.

I don't even know what Osseric said in his post. I couldn't follow a thing. I'd go with Thyr or Osseric.

I think it's possible that Kaschan as scholar, knew something about Osseric.

Let's try to make it unanimous.

A first for us.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Okay, I have another theory re: resurrections. Could be completely off, but hey, just speculating.

What if it's the neutral Apostl'eyd that does the resurrection, but that it changes which side it resurrects to every time it happens? What if Thyrllan was the first, so was resurrected on the cult side, but that the next will be resurrected on town side? Gah, this is so confusing!!!

But I still think that lynching Thyrllan is a good idea.

[Serc]

Tellan, on 05 July 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

Also, the fact that all three spectres are voting Thyr is undeniably important. While it is a bad idea to just follow dead guys blindly, we can't ignore their votes. For me, they reinforce my opinion that we should vote Thyrllan. If you wonder why I haven't voted yet, its because we still have 9 hours and we are at L2.

Also, I don't think they will all be cult, if any of them are, as Kaschan ( who is probably the scholar whose ability shows the amount of cultists) said that there were 3 cultists (i think) and all 3 would most likely not be in spectre land as we wouldn't be able to win then.

Where did Kaschan say there was 3 cultist. You're either dumb or brilliant.

[Osseric]

Tellan, on 05 July 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

Also, the fact that all three spectres are voting Thyr is undeniably important. While it is a bad idea to just follow dead guys blindly, we can't ignore their votes. For me, they reinforce my opinion that we should vote Thyrllan. If you wonder why I haven't voted yet, its because we still have 9 hours and we are at L2.

Also, I don't think they will all be cult, if any of them are, as Kaschan ( who is probably the scholar whose ability shows the amount of cultists) said that there were 3 cultists (i think) and all 3 would most likely not be in spectre land as we wouldn't be able to win then.

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

Tellan, on 05 July 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

Also, the fact that all three spectres are voting Thyr is undeniably important. While it is a bad idea to just follow dead guys blindly, we can't ignore their votes. For me, they reinforce my opinion that we should vote Thyrllan. If you wonder why I haven't voted yet, its because we still have 9 hours and we are at L2.

Also, I don't think they will all be cult, if any of them are, as Kaschan ( who is probably the scholar whose ability shows the amount of cultists) said that there were 3 cultists (i think) and all 3 would most likely not be in spectre land as we wouldn't be able to win then.

Where did Kaschan say there was 3 cultist. You're either dumb or brilliant.

Dude,read the thread then talk.

[Sheltatha Lore]

Serc, on 05 July 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

We're split, people. Either those against Thyrllans lynch are his scum followers AND are stupid enough to out themselves like that, or they either know something or they just don't feel it.

Here's a nice tid-bit: Thyrllan and Tellan have defended each other.

I don't even know what Osseric said in his post. I couldn't follow a thing. I'd go with Thyr or Osseric.

I think it's possible that Kaschan as scholar, knew something about Osseric.

Let's try to make it unanimous.

A first for us.

[Tellan]

Kaschan, on 04 July 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

And as the scholar, I do have one other thing to add. One of my abilities is deduction, which allows me to have a head count on cult. Currently, as of the end of day 1, there are 2 scum players. If I have other roles, you will have to wait until I find it expedient to reveal them.

I wanted to reveal since my role is helpful, but not yet integral to towns success. But also, the description in the narrative matches who I am, so I assume the same is true for other people.

Here is where he gave the number of cult. He said there were 2, and I assume that as PS said one Apostley gives the scum the "regular recruit ability" that each night they would be able to recruit 1 player, so now during day 2 they have 3 cultists.

[Serc]

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

Okay, I have another theory re: resurrections. Could be completely off, but hey, just speculating.

What if it's the neutral Apostl'eyd that does the resurrection, but that it changes which side it resurrects to every time it happens? What if Thyrllan was the first, so was resurrected on the cult side, but that the next will be resurrected on town side? Gah, this is so confusing!!!

But I still think that lynching Thyrllan is a good idea.

I bet we have some type of necromancer or medium who can either talk to the dead, CF the dead, raise the dead, or fuck the dead.

I think it's also best if no other important town roles reveal themselves. Kaschan should of remained hidden. He survived his lynch. He didn't have to out himself. He will be a target just to remove his ability. Scholar is probably some type of Finder.

Maybe someone has an abilty to prevent recruitment. Maybe place it on Kaschan unless he's already taken.

[Osseric]

Sheltatha Lore, on 05 July 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

Okay, I have another theory re: resurrections. Could be completely off, but hey, just speculating.

What if it's the neutral Apostl'eyd that does the resurrection, but that it changes which side it resurrects to every time it happens? What if Thyrllan was the first, so was resurrected on the cult side, but that the next will be resurrected on town side? Gah, this is so confusing!!!

But I still think that lynching Thyrllan is a good idea.

It's possible.
but why do you think first res will be cult?