[Telas]

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Telas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

Telas, on 05 June 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

Ampelas - because he clearly DOES have a name and ergo, a role. So he could well be a CL or Batman.

Arguing that my comment on the possibility of RI names in CFs means that I "clearly DO" have one, is like saying that since you commented on the possibility of independent roles existing means that "clearly YOU ARE" one... which if true means we should lynch you but in reality is just absurd reasoning.

And now I'm done arguing this silly line of logic. Time to get back on track for a real lynch.

You're absolutely right, let's not be silly. So let's take a look at what you said again shall we?

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

I dunno about that. There are easily enough batman villains for all 21 non-BM-players to be one, even if RI.

Your first response was NOT to say that it could be that RIs get a name after their death, it was to say that everyone could have a designated name ALREADY. Only after I called you on this did you post the rather lame defense - "well, we could all get names after our deaths". This to me suggests you have a name, and so assumed everyone did.

However, it also suggests to me that you have a name that is NOT in the OP, which thus would mean you are not the Bat or a CL. Or, on the other hand, you are, but did a really really silly thing, rather than just a silly thing

FINE KEEP PUSHING JUST FUCKING TELL EVERYONE THAT I'M ROLED TOWN YOU DIPSHIT COULD YOU NOT UNDERSTAND MY HINTS TO SHUT THE FUCK UP???!!!

You're the one who slipped up, and now you're blaming me? Pffft Should have been more careful. Anyways, I even removed my vote from you and voted elsewhere, so once again you're digging your own hole without my help. There was no need for you to post this.

[Telas]

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:21 PM, said:

I feel like people have been dicking around on the thread for the last couple of hours talking about RIs and names of innocents. Now with 45 minutes to go you want to do a rush lynch on Ano? You've caught me at a bad time to make a change as I'm in the middle of something at work, so give the case or link me.

Don't be a dick, go and read properly. I'd rather do a rush lynch on someone I've had my eye on for a bit rather than someone I don't want to vote on at all.

My posts nos. 408, 409, and 537 are about Anomandaris, especially the latter two.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 28 minutes left

21 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

9 votes for Eloth (Karosis, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Galain, Rashan, Liosan, Omtose, Korbas, Ampelas)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)
3 votes for Meanas (Spite, D'riss)
1 vote for D'riss(Atrahal)
1 vote for Atrahal (Fener)
2 vote for Anomandaris (Eloth, Telas)

-Liz

[Ampelas]

Telas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Telas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

Telas, on 05 June 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

Ampelas - because he clearly DOES have a name and ergo, a role. So he could well be a CL or Batman.

Arguing that my comment on the possibility of RI names in CFs means that I "clearly DO" have one, is like saying that since you commented on the possibility of independent roles existing means that "clearly YOU ARE" one... which if true means we should lynch you but in reality is just absurd reasoning.

And now I'm done arguing this silly line of logic. Time to get back on track for a real lynch.

You're absolutely right, let's not be silly. So let's take a look at what you said again shall we?

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

I dunno about that. There are easily enough batman villains for all 21 non-BM-players to be one, even if RI.

Your first response was NOT to say that it could be that RIs get a name after their death, it was to say that everyone could have a designated name ALREADY. Only after I called you on this did you post the rather lame defense - "well, we could all get names after our deaths". This to me suggests you have a name, and so assumed everyone did.

However, it also suggests to me that you have a name that is NOT in the OP, which thus would mean you are not the Bat or a CL. Or, on the other hand, you are, but did a really really silly thing, rather than just a silly thing

FINE KEEP PUSHING JUST FUCKING TELL EVERYONE THAT I'M ROLED TOWN YOU DIPSHIT COULD YOU NOT UNDERSTAND MY HINTS TO SHUT THE FUCK UP???!!!

You're the one who slipped up, and now you're blaming me? Pffft Should have been more careful. Anyways, I even removed my vote from you and voted elsewhere, so once again you're digging your own hole without my help. There was no need for you to post this.

Says the guy who apparently not only thought I was roled town but decided to post about it on-thread? Why?! If you thought it, why reveal it to everyone. Yes, I fucking slipped up but when you realized what it meant why did you keep fucking pushing depiste me blatantly hinting at you to shut up about it?

[Eloth]

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:21 PM, said:

I feel like people have been dicking around on the thread for the last couple of hours talking about RIs and names of innocents. Now with 45 minutes to go you want to do a rush lynch on Ano? You've caught me at a bad time to make a change as I'm in the middle of something at work, so give the case or link me.

It is not like you spent so much time searching for an alternative when you were online and had some time, were you now? I've spent what feels like 4 hours trying to get my points across, which was basically that Meanas' behavioral pattern wasn't that of a townie in front of a bloodthirsty mob who had identified him as one, plus all assorted bullshit that has been dragged along with it. That's still all that the case against me is. You also expect me to drag up a solid case next to that? Fuck, you are a hard one to please.

Must have cramps in your right hand, I guess.

[Korbas]

Just keep it to yourself. Same to you emur. If people can't figure out who is on their team from so blatant of clues, they don't deserve to know.

[Omtose]

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

Telas, on 05 June 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

Hmm, I read it that BM nominates a successor, who's only informed of their change in role if BM kicks the bucket.

I'd like some clarification on the successor bit, if possible PS.

Just finished my morning catch-up and am chewing on a couple of the new cases.

Telas building a case on anyone who was gunning for Osseric when Joker put him out there is interesting. Personally I was just going off of what little information we had at that time and trying to make a bit of sense from it. I understand that if the Joker was Osseric, he probably wouldn't want to put his name out there like that, drawing attention. I would WIFOM on that all day, but instead I'll just assume that's what happened. Seeing as the CL would have no clue who BM is, and no clue who each other are, Osseric is most likely just a random name with a 4/21 chance of being either a CL or BM. This is the same chance that any name would have assuming a CL threw out a name that was not theres. So, there is not really much evidence that Oss is anything other than a random name.

Ok, this is Ano's response when I put his name out there as one of three interested in seeing an Osseric lynch. Here he says that he's pretty much convinced Osseric is just a random name thrown out by the Joker, and very unlikely to be the Joker himself. But that's not really what he said earlier:

Anomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

Karosis, on 05 June 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Ok, so I finally actually caught up.

Here are my thoughts.

If town needs to have more than any of the cults for a victory at bowel movement's time of death, then taking out one of the leaders wouldn't be a bad idea.

So we have joker pointing at Osseric as bowel movement. I don't see how Joker could have any idea who bowel movement is, so possibly A) Joker really does think that Oss is bowel movement and would like to see him taken down a life. B--) (Sorry for dashes, trying to avoid a smiley appearing instead) The Joker thinks that Oss is one of the other cult leaders and wants to toss some heat on him. C) The joker is actually Oss, and put his own name in there to throw townsfolk off (or just as a joke). And finally D) Oss is just a random-ass name that the joker threw in.

Thoughts anyone? I'm physically exhausted after reading/posting this. Ill check back later.

I don't think I've ever seen a WIFOM statement as blatant as the Joker's "Osseric is the Batman" statement. As you say, there's no way the Joker can have any legitimate knowledge of who the Batman is at this point, so I don't see why there's any reason to treat his pronouncements with more strength than if a random player tossed out the opinion "I think Osseric is the Batman" without any evidence to back it up - eg. none.

So basically your logic (which I think is totally sound) destroys my option B and A. So now I'm down to Osseric is a random name thrown, likely, or Joker is osseric. I may thrown a vote on him if I'm not wholly convinced he isnt joker further into day 1.

Here he doesn't sound anywhere near as convinced that Osseric is not the Joker as he does in the later post. Here he still sounds like he would be very willing to vote Osseric. What happened in the meantime? Not much as far as I know, aside from Ano's name being pointed out as being interested in an Osseric lynch - which he then distances himself from ever wanting in his response.

Here you are, Omtose.

OK that is odd. He does look like he's backpedalling.

[Telas]

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:32 PM, said:

Says the guy who apparently not only thought I was roled town but decided to post about it on-thread? Why?! If you thought it, why reveal it to everyone. Yes, I fucking slipped up but when you realized what it meant why did you keep fucking pushing depiste me blatantly hinting at you to shut up about it?

No, I said I thought you were roled, but that didn't automatically make you roled town. That's just a possibility. Am I supposed to keep quiet every time I think someone is roled because they might be roled town. I didn't even know there would be roled town until the Solomon Grundy thing came up.

You really can't expect that if I hadn't pointed it out, no one else would have either. Someone would have. And nowhere did you 'blatantly' tell me to shut up about it. And honestly, even if you had, why would I have believed you?

Fact is, you're doing this all yourself now.

[Omtose]

Korbas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

Just keep it to yourself. Same to you emur. If people can't figure out who is on their team from so blatant of clues, they don't deserve to know.

Who are you talking to?

[Eloth]

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Korbas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

Just keep it to yourself. Same to you emur. If people can't figure out who is on their team from so blatant of clues, they don't deserve to know.

Who are you talking to?

I think that was to Ampelas.

[Fener]

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Korbas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

Just keep it to yourself. Same to you emur. If people can't figure out who is on their team from so blatant of clues, they don't deserve to know.

Who are you talking to?

[Korbas]

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Korbas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

Just keep it to yourself. Same to you emur. If people can't figure out who is on their team from so blatant of clues, they don't deserve to know.

Who are you talking to?

Sorry, just got to my computer, it was hard to reply and whatnot from my phone. I was addressing Ampelas, and Emurlahn as well, from much earlier in the game.

[Fener]

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 07:32 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 28 minutes left

21 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

9 votes for Eloth (Karosis, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Galain, Rashan, Liosan, Omtose, Korbas, Ampelas)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)
3 votes for Meanas (Spite, D'riss)
1 vote for D'riss(Atrahal)
1 vote for Atrahal (Fener)
2 vote for Anomandaris (Eloth, Telas)

-Liz

What's the third vote on Meanas?

[Korbas]

& Telas. Woops.

[Omtose]

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

Telas, on 05 June 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

Hmm, I read it that BM nominates a successor, who's only informed of their change in role if BM kicks the bucket.

I'd like some clarification on the successor bit, if possible PS.

Just finished my morning catch-up and am chewing on a couple of the new cases.

Telas building a case on anyone who was gunning for Osseric when Joker put him out there is interesting. Personally I was just going off of what little information we had at that time and trying to make a bit of sense from it. I understand that if the Joker was Osseric, he probably wouldn't want to put his name out there like that, drawing attention. I would WIFOM on that all day, but instead I'll just assume that's what happened. Seeing as the CL would have no clue who BM is, and no clue who each other are, Osseric is most likely just a random name with a 4/21 chance of being either a CL or BM. This is the same chance that any name would have assuming a CL threw out a name that was not theres. So, there is not really much evidence that Oss is anything other than a random name.

Ok, this is Ano's response when I put his name out there as one of three interested in seeing an Osseric lynch. Here he says that he's pretty much convinced Osseric is just a random name thrown out by the Joker, and very unlikely to be the Joker himself. But that's not really what he said earlier:

Anomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

Karosis, on 05 June 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Ok, so I finally actually caught up.

Here are my thoughts.

If town needs to have more than any of the cults for a victory at bowel movement's time of death, then taking out one of the leaders wouldn't be a bad idea.

So we have joker pointing at Osseric as bowel movement. I don't see how Joker could have any idea who bowel movement is, so possibly A) Joker really does think that Oss is bowel movement and would like to see him taken down a life. B--) (Sorry for dashes, trying to avoid a smiley appearing instead) The Joker thinks that Oss is one of the other cult leaders and wants to toss some heat on him. C) The joker is actually Oss, and put his own name in there to throw townsfolk off (or just as a joke). And finally D) Oss is just a random-ass name that the joker threw in.

Thoughts anyone? I'm physically exhausted after reading/posting this. Ill check back later.

I don't think I've ever seen a WIFOM statement as blatant as the Joker's "Osseric is the Batman" statement. As you say, there's no way the Joker can have any legitimate knowledge of who the Batman is at this point, so I don't see why there's any reason to treat his pronouncements with more strength than if a random player tossed out the opinion "I think Osseric is the Batman" without any evidence to back it up - eg. none.

So basically your logic (which I think is totally sound) destroys my option B and A. So now I'm down to Osseric is a random name thrown, likely, or Joker is osseric. I may thrown a vote on him if I'm not wholly convinced he isnt joker further into day 1.

Here he doesn't sound anywhere near as convinced that Osseric is not the Joker as he does in the later post. Here he still sounds like he would be very willing to vote Osseric. What happened in the meantime? Not much as far as I know, aside from Ano's name being pointed out as being interested in an Osseric lynch - which he then distances himself from ever wanting in his response.

Here you are, Omtose.

OK that is odd. He does look like he's backpedalling.

Personally I don't think its any more than what's been put on you, and has the feel of a speed lynch.

[Eloth]

Fener, on 05 June 2012 - 07:38 PM, said:

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Korbas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

Just keep it to yourself. Same to you emur. If people can't figure out who is on their team from so blatant of clues, they don't deserve to know.

Who are you talking to?

Well, if anyone's missed this particular spat by now, they're probably on a year long forum hiatus. Not asking/answering out of a sense of discretion doesn't make much of a difference anymore.

[Telas]

Korbas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

& Telas. Woops.

Fuck you very much. I haven't done anything wrong. I'd even removed my vote (my single, sole, no one else voting on him no pressure vote) before Ampelas' needless explosion.

[Fener]

20 minutes left. I don't see this swinging around to anyone else, and honestly, not sure if that would be wise anyway. Even if the case on Ano or Amp is decent, and I myself prefer lynching Meanas over Eloth, we've fucked ourselves with time constraints.

Remove Vote

Vote Eloth

[Fener]

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 07:40 PM, said:

Fener, on 05 June 2012 - 07:38 PM, said:

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Korbas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

Just keep it to yourself. Same to you emur. If people can't figure out who is on their team from so blatant of clues, they don't deserve to know.

Who are you talking to?

Well, if anyone's missed this particular spat by now, they're probably on a year long forum hiatus. Not asking/answering out of a sense of discretion doesn't make much of a difference anymore.

I know, just...fuck, man. Fuck.

[Telas]

The way I see it, we've already had a town death today. A wrong lynch would mean two town deaths before night's even begun. So if I'm not convinced by a case, i won't vote on it - and I'm not convinced by the one on Eloth.