[Ampelas]

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

How much time is left?

We've got 7 players on... I think it's enough for a Meanas lynch and that that is worth pursuing. Not only does his behaviour look scummy (ignoring everyone pointing out that his behaviour is not only non-town, but also illegal) but the lack of modkill says to me that he is probably an important role... I'm optimistic that he's batman but I'd settle for a cult leader, too

Actually, I think Ment wouldn't hesitate killing Batman and letting the role jump on.

Except that if the jump only happens when he is lynched, would that include a modkill? Maybe not... in which case Ment may have not modkilled him hoping we'd lynch and thus BM would jump?

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 51 minutes left

21 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

7 votes for Eloth (Karosis, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Galain, Rashan, Liosan, Omtose)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)
3 votes for Meanas (Spite, D'riss, Ampelas)
1 vote for D'riss(Atrahal)
1 vote for Ampelas (Telas)
1 vote for Atrahal (Fener)
1 vote for Anomandaris (Eloth)

-Liz

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 05 June 2012 - 07:15 PM

[Ampelas]

Rashan, on 05 June 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:07 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 05:37 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 2 hours and 23 minutes left

21 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

7 votes for Eloth (Karosis, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Galain, Rashan, Liosan, Omtose)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)
4 votes for Meanas (Spite, D'riss, Ampelas)
1 vote for D'riss(Atrahal)
1 vote for Ampelas (Telas)
1 vote for Atrahal (Fener)

-Liz

^^this was at 5:37 for me, and now it's 7:00ish, so still an hour left.

That's weird... Wonder why we're an hour off from each other? Think it has something to do with Daylight savings or something?

Shouldn't matter unless the switch took place today. Does the time in your alt (bottom right corner) match your local time?

[Ampelas]

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 51 minutes left

21 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

7 votes for Eloth (Karosis, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Galain, Rashan, Liosan, Omtose)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)
4 votes for Meanas (Spite, D'riss, Ampelas)
1 vote for D'riss(Atrahal)
1 vote for Ampelas (Telas)
1 vote for Atrahal (Fener)

-Liz

PS, you still have 4 votes on Meanas but only 3 alts...

[Rashan]

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 51 minutes left

21 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

7 votes for Eloth (Karosis, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Galain, Rashan, Liosan, Omtose)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)
4 votes for Meanas (Spite, D'riss, Ampelas)
1 vote for D'riss(Atrahal)
1 vote for Ampelas (Telas)
1 vote for Atrahal (Fener)

-Liz

Ah, figured it out, the forum times are an hour off from my time... Going to go update the profile now to prevent further confusion. Apologies to everyone for the confusion!

[Telas]

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

Telas, on 05 June 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

Ampelas - because he clearly DOES have a name and ergo, a role. So he could well be a CL or Batman.

Arguing that my comment on the possibility of RI names in CFs means that I "clearly DO" have one, is like saying that since you commented on the possibility of independent roles existing means that "clearly YOU ARE" one... which if true means we should lynch you but in reality is just absurd reasoning.

And now I'm done arguing this silly line of logic. Time to get back on track for a real lynch.

You're absolutely right, let's not be silly. So let's take a look at what you said again shall we?

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

I dunno about that. There are easily enough batman villains for all 21 non-BM-players to be one, even if RI.

Your first response was NOT to say that it could be that RIs get a name after their death, it was to say that everyone could have a designated name ALREADY. Only after I called you on this did you post the rather lame defense - "well, we could all get names after our deaths". This to me suggests you have a name, and so assumed everyone did.

However, it also suggests to me that you have a name that is NOT in the OP, which thus would mean you are not the Bat or a CL. Or, on the other hand, you are, but did a really really silly thing, rather than just a silly thing

[Eloth]

Rashan, on 05 June 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on 05 June 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

It is Day 1. 1 hours and 28 minutes left

21 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

7 votes for Eloth (Karosis, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Galain, Rashan, Liosan, Omtose)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)
4 votes for Meanas (Spite, D'riss, Ampelas)
1 vote for D'riss(Atrahal)
1 vote for Ampelas (Telas)
1 vote for Atrahal (Fener)

-Liz

This was the last PS post, it was posted at 1:32pm my time, it's now 3:06pm my time. That means lynch timer has expired.

Does it also say that on your own post timer?
Because the timer says 12.32 to me for liz's post, and Ampelas' reply on the modkill or not of Batman is at 01.09 PM, aka 37 minutes later.

EDIT: x-post with P-S and several other people.

This post has been edited by Eloth: 05 June 2012 - 07:12 PM

[Rashan]

Eloth, on 05 June 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Does it also say that on your own post timer?
Because the timer says 12.32 to me for liz's post, and Ampelas' reply on the modkill or not of Batman is at 01.09 PM, aka 37 minutes later.

Sorry, didn't realize that the profile was set to a different timezone then mine. It's now fixed, so shouldn't be confused.

[Telas]

Remove Vote

Vote Anomandaris

As that seems to be having a bit more support behind it, and Ano is in that evil low-to-mid-post-count range.

[Fener]

I'm around. Let's figure this out before we time out, because that is not something I think town can afford in this game.

[Korbas]

vote eloth

Not a lot of time. Won't be voting meanas atm.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 41 minutes left

21 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

8 votes for Eloth (Karosis, Emurlahn, Anomandaris, Galain, Rashan, Liosan, Omtose, Korbas)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)
3 votes for Meanas (Spite, D'riss, Ampelas)
1 vote for D'riss(Atrahal)
1 vote for Atrahal (Fener)
2 vote for Anomandaris (Eloth, Telas)

-Liz

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 05 June 2012 - 07:20 PM

[Omtose]

I feel like people have been dicking around on the thread for the last couple of hours talking about RIs and names of innocents. Now with 45 minutes to go you want to do a rush lynch on Ano? You've caught me at a bad time to make a change as I'm in the middle of something at work, so give the case or link me.

[Rashan]

Fener, on 05 June 2012 - 07:17 PM, said:

I'm around. Let's figure this out before we time out, because that is not something I think town can afford in this game.

I'm still convinced Eloth is a good lynch, but if it looks like we can get a lynch somewhere else instead, I'll move my vote. The only other case I like right now is Telas' case against Ampelas. It does very much look like he slipped up. What worries me is that if he's a townie with an independent role, we might be further cutting our ability for a town win this game.

[Ampelas]

Telas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

Telas, on 05 June 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

Ampelas - because he clearly DOES have a name and ergo, a role. So he could well be a CL or Batman.

Arguing that my comment on the possibility of RI names in CFs means that I "clearly DO" have one, is like saying that since you commented on the possibility of independent roles existing means that "clearly YOU ARE" one... which if true means we should lynch you but in reality is just absurd reasoning.

And now I'm done arguing this silly line of logic. Time to get back on track for a real lynch.

You're absolutely right, let's not be silly. So let's take a look at what you said again shall we?

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

I dunno about that. There are easily enough batman villains for all 21 non-BM-players to be one, even if RI.

Your first response was NOT to say that it could be that RIs get a name after their death, it was to say that everyone could have a designated name ALREADY. Only after I called you on this did you post the rather lame defense - "well, we could all get names after our deaths". This to me suggests you have a name, and so assumed everyone did.

However, it also suggests to me that you have a name that is NOT in the OP, which thus would mean you are not the Bat or a CL. Or, on the other hand, you are, but did a really really silly thing, rather than just a silly thing

FINE KEEP PUSHING JUST FUCKING TELL EVERYONE THAT I'M ROLED TOWN YOU DIPSHIT COULD YOU NOT UNDERSTAND MY HINTS TO SHUT THE FUCK UP???!!!

[Omtose]

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:21 PM, said:

I feel like people have been dicking around on the thread for the last couple of hours talking about RIs and names of innocents. Now with 45 minutes to go you want to do a rush lynch on Ano? You've caught me at a bad time to make a change as I'm in the middle of something at work, so give the case or link me.

And keep in mind that I'm not sold that Eloth isn't the way to go.

[Eloth]

Telas, on 05 June 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 05 June 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

Hmm, I read it that BM nominates a successor, who's only informed of their change in role if BM kicks the bucket.

I'd like some clarification on the successor bit, if possible PS.

Just finished my morning catch-up and am chewing on a couple of the new cases.

Telas building a case on anyone who was gunning for Osseric when Joker put him out there is interesting. Personally I was just going off of what little information we had at that time and trying to make a bit of sense from it. I understand that if the Joker was Osseric, he probably wouldn't want to put his name out there like that, drawing attention. I would WIFOM on that all day, but instead I'll just assume that's what happened. Seeing as the CL would have no clue who BM is, and no clue who each other are, Osseric is most likely just a random name with a 4/21 chance of being either a CL or BM. This is the same chance that any name would have assuming a CL threw out a name that was not theres. So, there is not really much evidence that Oss is anything other than a random name.

Ok, this is Ano's response when I put his name out there as one of three interested in seeing an Osseric lynch. Here he says that he's pretty much convinced Osseric is just a random name thrown out by the Joker, and very unlikely to be the Joker himself. But that's not really what he said earlier:

Anomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

Karosis, on 05 June 2012 - 01:33 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on 05 June 2012 - 01:27 AM, said:

Ok, so I finally actually caught up.

Here are my thoughts.

If town needs to have more than any of the cults for a victory at bowel movement's time of death, then taking out one of the leaders wouldn't be a bad idea.

So we have joker pointing at Osseric as bowel movement. I don't see how Joker could have any idea who bowel movement is, so possibly A) Joker really does think that Oss is bowel movement and would like to see him taken down a life. B--) (Sorry for dashes, trying to avoid a smiley appearing instead) The Joker thinks that Oss is one of the other cult leaders and wants to toss some heat on him. C) The joker is actually Oss, and put his own name in there to throw townsfolk off (or just as a joke). And finally D) Oss is just a random-ass name that the joker threw in.

Thoughts anyone? I'm physically exhausted after reading/posting this. Ill check back later.

I don't think I've ever seen a WIFOM statement as blatant as the Joker's "Osseric is the Batman" statement. As you say, there's no way the Joker can have any legitimate knowledge of who the Batman is at this point, so I don't see why there's any reason to treat his pronouncements with more strength than if a random player tossed out the opinion "I think Osseric is the Batman" without any evidence to back it up - eg. none.

So basically your logic (which I think is totally sound) destroys my option B and A. So now I'm down to Osseric is a random name thrown, likely, or Joker is osseric. I may thrown a vote on him if I'm not wholly convinced he isnt joker further into day 1.

Here he doesn't sound anywhere near as convinced that Osseric is not the Joker as he does in the later post. Here he still sounds like he would be very willing to vote Osseric. What happened in the meantime? Not much as far as I know, aside from Ano's name being pointed out as being interested in an Osseric lynch - which he then distances himself from ever wanting in his response.

Here you are, Omtose.

[Eloth]

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Omtose, on 05 June 2012 - 07:21 PM, said:

I feel like people have been dicking around on the thread for the last couple of hours talking about RIs and names of innocents. Now with 45 minutes to go you want to do a rush lynch on Ano? You've caught me at a bad time to make a change as I'm in the middle of something at work, so give the case or link me.

And keep in mind that I'm not sold that Eloth isn't the way to go.

double negative = positive, right?

[Ampelas]

40 mins left? Bah, it's day 1 see if I care

remove vote
Vote Eloth


I'll just do a fucking find on Meanas instead

[Korbas]

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

Telas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:11 PM, said:

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

Telas, on 05 June 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

Ampelas - because he clearly DOES have a name and ergo, a role. So he could well be a CL or Batman.

Arguing that my comment on the possibility of RI names in CFs means that I "clearly DO" have one, is like saying that since you commented on the possibility of independent roles existing means that "clearly YOU ARE" one... which if true means we should lynch you but in reality is just absurd reasoning.

And now I'm done arguing this silly line of logic. Time to get back on track for a real lynch.

You're absolutely right, let's not be silly. So let's take a look at what you said again shall we?

Ampelas, on 05 June 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

I dunno about that. There are easily enough batman villains for all 21 non-BM-players to be one, even if RI.

Your first response was NOT to say that it could be that RIs get a name after their death, it was to say that everyone could have a designated name ALREADY. Only after I called you on this did you post the rather lame defense - "well, we could all get names after our deaths". This to me suggests you have a name, and so assumed everyone did.

However, it also suggests to me that you have a name that is NOT in the OP, which thus would mean you are not the Bat or a CL. Or, on the other hand, you are, but did a really really silly thing, rather than just a silly thing

FINE KEEP PUSHING JUST FUCKING TELL EVERYONE THAT I'M ROLED TOWN YOU DIPSHIT COULD YOU NOT UNDERSTAND MY HINTS TO SHUT THE FUCK UP???!!!

THIS.

That's twice this game. We don't need to point out that people are CONFIRMED town in a goddamn cult game. That's incredibly counterproductive. I'm looking at your, Emur and Amp. Both of you did this stupid shit.