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MAfia 88: Arkham City NANA-NANA-NANA-NANA-RETCON!!!

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:05 AM

 Atrahal, on 04 June 2012 - 07:22 PM, said:

Personal comments are a bit beyond the pale.


Since when?

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:08 AM

 Path-Shaper, on 04 June 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

We are not sure what the Jokes wants to tell us with this:

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:09 AM

 Rashan, on 04 June 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:

 Emurlahn, on 04 June 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

Poison Ivy, Two Face and the Penguin have sent messages. That just leaves the Joker if i'm not mistaken.


So are we thinking that The Joker is one of the non-posters? That leaves it open to being Anomandaris, Anthras, Meanas, Telas or Thyrllan. Be interesting to see if/when Joker posts today.


Y'all forgot about Dre.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:16 AM

FWIW, I don't think there's too much value in analysing posting times on the broadcast messages. For one thing, they have to go via PS so there's an in-built time delay there. For another, past experience tells me that scum are always going to be careful when they've got an ability like this precisely because they know how easy it is to link this sort of thing.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:17 AM

 Korbas, on 04 June 2012 - 09:08 PM, said:

 Meanas, on 04 June 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

Faction game = BM vs factions. Town are just a pool of unlucky chumps


HE SPECIFICALLY SAID THIS GAME WASN'T LIKE THIS


MENTALIST I DEMAND A MODKILL FOR THIS FUCKER.


Yes. Let the hate flow through you.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:19 AM

You all stand around staring daggers at each other. or at least wishing you had daggers. or at least shanks.

then the Radio picks up the Bowery PA system again, and you hear Penguin's cockney voice again:

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Touring the riot scene. Gravely assessing the devastation. Upstanding mayor stuff. FFS HAS NO ONE CONSIDERED THAT OSSERIC IS THE JOKER?"

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:26 AM

 Meanas, on 04 June 2012 - 09:02 PM, said:

Well, town lynch of recruiter on day 1 is silly. I mean, what's the use? We don't have teams, and the longer we wait, the more people will have teams, and the more spread out those people will be. I mean, yeah, we'll be competing, but at least we won't have 3 big-uns as opposed to 4 smaller-uns.

And Batman? He's the ememy of all. If we hit him day one, all the better for us. That simple



Town lynch of a recruiter on day 1 is far from silly. Town lynch of a recruiter when there's only one or two left, on the other hand, is silly, as it will complete Batman's VCs. What we know is that there are at least 4 recruiters. But read the OP again. Those are the ones that are known. There could well be others, or at least other independents.

I don't like Meanas' post because it effectively dismisses town day 1. Whilst I'm not arguing against the fact that it's going to be incredibly hard for town to win unless the recruiters end up screwing each other over. However, if town can lynch a recruiter very early, it increases the chances of town winning, because there are less people with the ability to recruit. Ergo, if Meanas is town, then this is totally the wrong thinking to have. I might go so far as to suggest it's quite a recruiter-like mentality....




 Karosis, on 05 June 2012 - 12:16 AM, said:

FWIW, I don't think there's too much value in analysing posting times on the broadcast messages. For one thing, they have to go via PS so there's an in-built time delay there. For another, past experience tells me that scum are always going to be careful when they've got an ability like this precisely because they know how easy it is to link this sort of thing.




Just wanted to highlight this post by Karosis because it makes a very good point.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:28 AM

Good lord, 8 pages.

Signing in.

See you when I'm caught up.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:31 AM

Eloth's made a couple of decent points, and whenever I think someone is being smart that always makes me wary.

My take is we lynch the god damned batman whenever possible and let the cults do their job because otherwise there's no way we win.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:37 AM

Ohio, everyone! :tongue:


 Ampelas, on 04 June 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

Second message, totally different style. I guess the cults are mirrored, then, and the recruiters can each make an on-thread announcement each day, so we'll probably see two more of these ('cept now they won't just to spite me)


SIGNALLING!



 Rashan, on 04 June 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

*snip*

Hmmm, so Eloth and Korvalain make references to Dragonsecks, and Sheltatha and Spite both chime in once or twice about it, but I think the above post is more likely trying to throw some suspicion on them rather than tying to them... Osseric and Galain both disparaged Dragonsecks, so I'm thinking one of them is the recruiter, or, again, someone's trying to divert attention.


This is practically WIFOM. No, it is WIFOM. Are you seriously biting the recruiter's shit? O.o


 Rashan, on 04 June 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

As for the Joker wanting us to look at Osseric, I don't like it. I think he's just screwing with us. Osseric certainly hasn't done anything to yay or nay the suspicion though, though he did deflect Galain away from him and onto Korv... Either way, I'm leaning towards Joker trying to screw with us.



Osseric did WHAT now? I'd like evidence of where he deflected me, 'cuz that would really piss me off if he had. XD



 Korbas, on 04 June 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

*snip*

No, we lynch the joker, vig/kill batman. If there isn't a vig/kill, we lynch him the next day. Maybe he'll take out a cultist while he's alive tonight.



For the lulz,
"It's simple. We kill the batman."

...that's what you were going for with that line, right? :D

Alrighty, I've read up, everyone is running along smoothly. This game is nigh-unwinnable for town unless the cults are REALLY slow recruiters. Because by the time we get them down, and have to kill the Batman, to have plurality for town is going to be a one-in-a-thousand chance. We're fucked.



Also, why is everyone ignoring my post about the fact that the OP only states there are four, confirmed, cultists? :Rodeo:"

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:38 AM

I have returned from sleep, and hopefully making more sense :tongue:

I'm finding these statements from the criminal masterminds very interesting. Hopefully they will give us some clues about the masterminds and their suspects. Interesting this fascination they have for Osseric too.

I'm a bit torn over looking for Batman over the criminal masterminds. The cults, I think, are a more immediate threat to town, but the Batman issue is going to have to be addressed fairly early on as well.

Also, I am a wee bit confused as to why D'riss is feeling the need to quote largely irrelevant comments made by other people, with largely irrelevant comments of his own added to them.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:40 AM

I'd not be shocked if there was an unknown in the game, or something like. We are TMDI 9, yeah? Cult + Predator equal a niner? (Yes you just heard a niner in there)

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:41 AM

 Korvalain, on 05 June 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

I have returned from sleep, and hopefully making more sense :tongue:

I'm finding these statements from the criminal masterminds very interesting. Hopefully they will give us some clues about the masterminds and their suspects. Interesting this fascination they have for Osseric too.

I'm a bit torn over looking for Batman over the criminal masterminds. The cults, I think, are a more immediate threat to town, but the Batman issue is going to have to be addressed fairly early on as well.

Also, I am a wee bit confused as to why D'riss is feeling the need to quote largely irrelevant comments made by other people, with largely irrelevant comments of his own added to them.


Because I was catching up and commenting as I went. Now that I'm done, you see actual opinions, yes?

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:43 AM

I'm here, but left off on page 2. Now there is 8 pages. So I'll be reading 6 pages of threads. No time estimate.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:48 AM

 Osseric, on 05 June 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

I'm here, but left off on page 2. Now there is 8 pages. So I'll be reading 6 pages of threads. No time estimate.


Would you like a summary? :tongue:


- You're the Batman.

- You're the Joker.

- You're the fuck knows.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:51 AM

 Korvalain, on 05 June 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

I have returned from sleep, and hopefully making more sense :D

I'm finding these statements from the criminal masterminds very interesting. Hopefully they will give us some clues about the masterminds and their suspects. Interesting this fascination they have for Osseric too.

I'm a bit torn over looking for Batman over the criminal masterminds. The cults, I think, are a more immediate threat to town, but the Batman issue is going to have to be addressed fairly early on as well.

Also, I am a wee bit confused as to why D'riss is feeling the need to quote largely irrelevant comments made by other people, with largely irrelevant comments of his own added to them.



You see the problem, though, yes? When Batman dies, the game is over. If the cults have recruited enough by then, town no longer has plurality. BUT! Batman takes four deaths to die. That is gonna take time. So trying to balance reducing the cult's recruiting power over time and ending the Batman is an absolute nightmare...


 Osseric, on 05 June 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

I'm here, but left off on page 2. Now there is 8 pages. So I'll be reading 6 pages of threads. No time estimate.




Took me about half an hour. Can you do better, good sir? :tongue:

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:55 AM

 Omtose, on 04 June 2012 - 10:27 PM, said:

Oh and to play along...

Osseric is Batman.

Yeah baby yeah!


This post felt forced to me. Korbas was very clearly barking up the wrong tree with his demands for Atrahal to post an exact phrase given the explicit lack of limits on revealing. He does say previously that he'd enjoyed this section of discussion, but the way Omtose does this makes it feel like he was going for a "Better join in so everyone thinks I'm town!" sort of thing in an attempt to blend in.


His previous foray into prodding was pretty forced as well (so much so that Ampelas immediately called him on it, actually):

 Omtose, on 04 June 2012 - 03:16 PM, said:

 Rashan, on 04 June 2012 - 03:03 PM, said:

 Korbas, on 04 June 2012 - 03:00 PM, said:

I was under the impression that batman was a killer, with a lot of defenses. If the OP makes more than that clear, I didn't notice, and can't check atm. Batman is defensive, it seems. As for the recruiters, I figure they're just like the rest of us. 4 recruiters is a LOT, and ment said its possible for town to win. Even if we get them 4 consecutive days, that's still 6 recruits AND batman left. That's my reasoning


I suppose you could be right, but I wouldn't put my money on Batman being only defensive. It seems to me that he will have some interesting attacks or something for if/when he figures out who a recruiter is. *shrugs* I imagine he'll have a NK action too. Guess we shall see.


Downplaying Batman's role? The rules clearly state that he is a PREDATOR with abilities to TAKE DOWN the recruiters. This is not a defensive role.


In both of posts he quotes, Rashan and Korbas explicitly mention that the Batman has offensive abilities (to wit - NKs). So this attack doesn't really make any sense in context - I don't see any downplaying going on here. Though I'll admit he managed to generate quite a bit of (albeit not particularly useful) discussion for a statement that was so unfounded.

In summary, some of Omtose's posts make it feel like he's trying too hard to blend into the crowd.

Vote Omtose

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 12:55 AM

 Galain, on 05 June 2012 - 12:51 AM, said:

 Korvalain, on 05 June 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

I have returned from sleep, and hopefully making more sense :D

I'm finding these statements from the criminal masterminds very interesting. Hopefully they will give us some clues about the masterminds and their suspects. Interesting this fascination they have for Osseric too.

I'm a bit torn over looking for Batman over the criminal masterminds. The cults, I think, are a more immediate threat to town, but the Batman issue is going to have to be addressed fairly early on as well.

Also, I am a wee bit confused as to why D'riss is feeling the need to quote largely irrelevant comments made by other people, with largely irrelevant comments of his own added to them.



You see the problem, though, yes? When Batman dies, the game is over. If the cults have recruited enough by then, town no longer has plurality. BUT! Batman takes four deaths to die. That is gonna take time. So trying to balance reducing the cult's recruiting power over time and ending the Batman is an absolute nightmare...


So... what would you recommend? Just go for so called "role players" through profiling?

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 Osseric, on 05 June 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

I'm here, but left off on page 2. Now there is 8 pages. So I'll be reading 6 pages of threads. No time estimate.




Took me about half an hour. Can you do better, good sir? :tongue:


You didn't post while doing so. Your records have asterisks besides them.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 01:01 AM

 Galain, on 05 June 2012 - 12:51 AM, said:

 Korvalain, on 05 June 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

I have returned from sleep, and hopefully making more sense :D

I'm finding these statements from the criminal masterminds very interesting. Hopefully they will give us some clues about the masterminds and their suspects. Interesting this fascination they have for Osseric too.

I'm a bit torn over looking for Batman over the criminal masterminds. The cults, I think, are a more immediate threat to town, but the Batman issue is going to have to be addressed fairly early on as well.

Also, I am a wee bit confused as to why D'riss is feeling the need to quote largely irrelevant comments made by other people, with largely irrelevant comments of his own added to them.



You see the problem, though, yes? When Batman dies, the game is over. If the cults have recruited enough by then, town no longer has plurality. BUT! Batman takes four deaths to die. That is gonna take time. So trying to balance reducing the cult's recruiting power over time and ending the Batman is an absolute nightmare...


 Osseric, on 05 June 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

I'm here, but left off on page 2. Now there is 8 pages. So I'll be reading 6 pages of threads. No time estimate.




Took me about half an hour. Can you do better, good sir? :tongue:


No wonder your posts/ messages barely make any sense. I think we should lynch the batman or mental as a good start to the day.

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 01:08 AM

 D, on 05 June 2012 - 12:55 AM, said:

 Galain, on 05 June 2012 - 12:51 AM, said:

 Korvalain, on 05 June 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

I have returned from sleep, and hopefully making more sense :Rodeo:

I'm finding these statements from the criminal masterminds very interesting. Hopefully they will give us some clues about the masterminds and their suspects. Interesting this fascination they have for Osseric too.

I'm a bit torn over looking for Batman over the criminal masterminds. The cults, I think, are a more immediate threat to town, but the Batman issue is going to have to be addressed fairly early on as well.

Also, I am a wee bit confused as to why D'riss is feeling the need to quote largely irrelevant comments made by other people, with largely irrelevant comments of his own added to them.



You see the problem, though, yes? When Batman dies, the game is over. If the cults have recruited enough by then, town no longer has plurality. BUT! Batman takes four deaths to die. That is gonna take time. So trying to balance reducing the cult's recruiting power over time and ending the Batman is an absolute nightmare...


So... what would you recommend? Just go for so called "role players" through profiling?

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 Osseric, on 05 June 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

I'm here, but left off on page 2. Now there is 8 pages. So I'll be reading 6 pages of threads. No time estimate.




Took me about half an hour. Can you do better, good sir? :tongue:


You didn't post while doing so. Your records have asterisks besides them.


I have no idea, honestly, or else I'd post. I'm trying to work something out in my head, but maths isn't my strong suit. >.>



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 Anthras, on 05 June 2012 - 01:01 AM, said:

 Galain, on 05 June 2012 - 12:51 AM, said:

 Korvalain, on 05 June 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

I have returned from sleep, and hopefully making more sense

I'm finding these statements from the criminal masterminds very interesting. Hopefully they will give us some clues about the masterminds and their suspects. Interesting this fascination they have for Osseric too.

I'm a bit torn over looking for Batman over the criminal masterminds. The cults, I think, are a more immediate threat to town, but the Batman issue is going to have to be addressed fairly early on as well.

Also, I am a wee bit confused as to why D'riss is feeling the need to quote largely irrelevant comments made by other people, with largely irrelevant comments of his own added to them.



You see the problem, though, yes? When Batman dies, the game is over. If the cults have recruited enough by then, town no longer has plurality. BUT! Batman takes four deaths to die. That is gonna take time. So trying to balance reducing the cult's recruiting power over time and ending the Batman is an absolute nightmare...


 Osseric, on 05 June 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

I'm here, but left off on page 2. Now there is 8 pages. So I'll be reading 6 pages of threads. No time estimate.




Took me about half an hour. Can you do better, good sir?


No wonder your posts/ messages barely make any sense. I think we should lynch the batman or mental as a good start to the day.



Messages? What are you implying, Ant? *suspicious*



And if you can read, my posts make perfect sense. Guess you didn't quite get past elementary school, huh? :D

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