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MAfia 88: Arkham City NANA-NANA-NANA-NANA-RETCON!!!

#261 User is offline   Emurlahn 

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 10:17 PM

My main suspect is Spite out of this pool but only for his comment after Korbas

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public/style_images/master/snapback.pngKorbas, on 04 June 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

The previous post is in response to Atrahal's immediate deciphering of Joker's code.


I thought he was just making a joke... wait...
joke. JOKER! He is the joker :tongue:


In the middle of our speculation he does a fly by post and disappears. At the same time the Joker's broadcast was er broadcast.

It's day one there's nothing concrete to go on. Atrahal could easily be a recruiter but i'll stick with Spite for now.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 10:17 PM

Ok i had 25 minutes to read the thread before i go to the movies. That wasnt enough so consider this my check in. Ill read the rest (or as much of it as i can) upon my return.


Catch that bat

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 10:20 PM

That was the funniest last few pages I've read in a while. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I had started playing around with the letters myself, I can see that someone could figure that out quickly if they know about different cyphers. The winding up of Korbas though was TRULY PRICELESS :tongue: .

That said, what a good joke that would be on all of us if Atrahal DID turn out to be The Joker.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 10:27 PM

Oh and to play along...

Osseric is Batman.

Yeah baby yeah!

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 10:41 PM

 Meanas, on 04 June 2012 - 09:33 PM, said:

 Emurlahn, on 04 June 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

 Meanas, on 04 June 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

Ok, putting on my reading glasses, lighting my pipe, and sitting down before the hearth and getting all scholarly yo.

First of all, 5 people will need to outlast day 1, correct? Best way to do that is be middling, calm, composed, maybe even just the slightest bit spammy

Korbas, getting too worked up.
Atrahal, maybe, but still being too playful (and seriously you think someone knows who batman is already? seems a stretch to me)
Emur, more likely, but trying to lead the thread, more likely bold town.



What about Rashan he's high up on the list. I also got your first post were I do believe some people may not have.


He's an interesting one alrighty. He likes pointing fingers, trying very hard to play a serious game while not looking serious (making cute remarks and the like). I also like how he keeps pointing out "signaling" when there really is no reason to signal. I mean, any recruit is told who recruited him, correct?

I'll bite

Vote Rashan

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Recruiting rules:Recruiter may recruit one person per night if two+ recruiters targe the same person, the recruit actions fail, and each recruiter is told who all of the others are.if recruiter attempts to recruit a recruiter, both are told who the other one is. Any recruit is told who recruited him. Anyone who is not a recruiter or Batman may be recruited multiple times.


Well, the underlined in your message is ambiguous in the OP. Do we get the cult leader's name upon recruitment,, or do we get the alt of the recruiter, or both? I guess a recruit will just learn which cult he's a part of so he'll know which leader message to pay attention to. That message mechanic might also be in place because of cults recruiting each other's recruits - the super villains would drop like flies if upon recruitment, we learn the alt of our new master. If I read the sentence in the OP correctly, the following would happen.

Say, player X gets recruited by Poisoned Ivy. The next night, The Joker recruits X. X reveals Poisoned Ivy, we lynch her or leave her for Batman. X is then either persona non grata for the other recruiters, or they'll try and reel X in to have X betray their last master again. In case both remaining villains recruit X on the same night, they learn each other's identity. Which is going to lead to very interesting messages, I guess (I don't really believe these were limited use only, after all, they were all but wasted on gloating apart from the Joker's, which will likely benefit him if we act on it).

Such a scenario is going to be game breaking, imho, and cross-recruiting is at some point likely to happen.

Which is also a blessing in disguise for us. If we want to win, we need to have 1 more guy on the team than the biggest cult when the game ends. 5 of us would be enough, imho.
In our favor:
- cross-faction recruitment (sure, maths probably will prove this is a 2% possibility. However, this is people we're talking about. In many games,different roles already target the same guy on the same night. With 4 cults, this is going to happen too as they all want the recruits with the best odds on survival).
- There's also a fairly decent chance (especially for death 2 and 3) that Batman's designated successor is a recruit as he will make his selection of hosts according to roughly the same criteria as the recruiters.

The question for us on day 1 is going to be what we see as our best strategy: hunt for a cult leader or for Batman, then act upon it.

P.S: this post took ages to type and I still probably didn't take everything into account. I'll probably look like an idiot because three people already came up with the same and better in the time between starting and finishing this.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 10:44 PM

Well, I may still be an idiot, but not for saying what others already did :tongue:

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:10 PM

To clarify a few things:

Batman's VC is elimination of all major villains (whether he does it himself or not is irrelevant)

everyone else/; (cults + town)--KILL BATMAN (WITH FINALITY) WHILE MAINTAINING PLURALITY TO WIN.

recruits are told their new faction AND who recruited them. choose wisely.

any reveals are acceptable bar quoting of your PM, as per the wall o' rules.

If I notice people trying to pick a non-town by the content of PMs, I'll post the town PM on-thread.

now i'm off to read all your PMs....

vote count is coming soon

-ment.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 June 2012 - 11:12 PM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:19 PM

7 pages of spam, assuredly?

Checking in.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:24 PM

 Korbas, on 04 June 2012 - 01:34 PM, said:

Well technically he is a criminal. But that's the only seeming slip up so far. I'm hitting the gym, will post between sets like a real badass.


Funniest statement yet.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:30 PM

OK, so tracking back, I see there's been a lot of discussion about whether it's best to go after Batman or the Cults. According to Ment's clarification above, the Batman only needs to kill all the Cult leaders to win. If it weren't for that, I'd say it's a no brainer to go after the Cults first - they get stronger over time, whereas the Batman doesn't. But Batman's VCs throw that out the window. I think it's definitely in our interests to get rid of a cult or two, but given the mechanics about how information is revealed on cult members, I'm pretty sure that we're going to get information on thread that makes at least one of them a sure thing, so we can probably wait a little to see if any information comes out on that front. In the meantime, if we can force Batman to pull a Big Ben early, it will make his life a lot more difficult - having to emulate another player's style is pretty tough to keep up for a whole game. It's unclear whether an NK on Batman removes one of his lives...I hope so! But probably not something that's worth banking on.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:32 PM

 D, on 04 June 2012 - 11:19 PM, said:

7 pages of spam, assuredly?

Checking in.

Assuredly so! What did you expect after all that moaning about how we don't play properly, a low poster fest?

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:32 PM

 Fener, on 04 June 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

Fuck me, I'm Fener. Feeling the vote-love already. :tongue:


Have more fun with it you overgrown slice of aggressive bacon.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:34 PM

Oh, and

Remove Vote

while I'm thinking about it.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:36 PM

 Karosis, on 04 June 2012 - 11:30 PM, said:

OK, so tracking back, I see there's been a lot of discussion about whether it's best to go after Batman or the Cults. According to Ment's clarification above, the Batman only needs to kill all the Cult leaders to win. If it weren't for that, I'd say it's a no brainer to go after the Cults first - they get stronger over time, whereas the Batman doesn't. But Batman's VCs throw that out the window. I think it's definitely in our interests to get rid of a cult or two, but given the mechanics about how information is revealed on cult members, I'm pretty sure that we're going to get information on thread that makes at least one of them a sure thing, so we can probably wait a little to see if any information comes out on that front. In the meantime, if we can force Batman to pull a Big Ben early, it will make his life a lot more difficult - having to emulate another player's style is pretty tough to keep up for a whole game. It's unclear whether an NK on Batman removes one of his lives...I hope so! But probably not something that's worth banking on.




yeah. Agreed, this reflects my current mindstate

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:44 PM

 D, on 04 June 2012 - 11:32 PM, said:

 Fener, on 04 June 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

Fuck me, I'm Fener. Feeling the vote-love already. :tongue:


Have more fun with it you overgrown slice of aggressive bacon.


The best part of being Fener is that you're so fundamentally fucked in everyone's eyes already that you can get away with shit that might otherwise be unacceptable. On the other hand, you get lynched for shit that is dumber than fuck-all at the same time. It's always interesting, at least.

The Joker's message has put a penny on the track of my thoughts. I have to go for awhile and then I'll lay down a vote after a bit of rereading.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:45 PM

 Eloth, on 04 June 2012 - 01:31 PM, said:

 Karosis, on 04 June 2012 - 01:20 PM, said:

 Eloth, on 04 June 2012 - 01:19 PM, said:

The same might be true of Greek obligations :tongue:


I'll obligate your Greeks if you know what I mean.


I'm sure my fields don't need fertalising (to quote the Lysistrata).


As for SL's overabundance of eagerness: they're probably new. Everyone here knows we'll lynch randomly in the last 90 seconds of the day, then day 2 we lynch whoever protested the most against yesterday's lynch for its randomness (which is likely to be HD, as he never survives past day 2 whenever he does sign up), day 3 Silencer goes down (probably for low posting but he'll interprete it as for being too smooth) and he'll huff and puff in SH and perhaps even close the game thread in anger before Grief unlocks it again, then day 4 Vengeance explodes on thread for some reason or other and then we're in end-game.



Your forgot day 5 - Khell inexplicably breaks the game.

Here and reading up.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:45 PM

It is Day 1. 20 hours and 15 minutes left

22 people are still alive : Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Karosis, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Sheptatha Lore, Spite, Telas, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

takes 12 votes to lynch or 11 to go to night.

1 vote for Omtose (Sheltatha Lore)
2 votes for Fener (Omtose, Rashan)
1 vote for Eloth (Galain)
1 vote for Spite (Emurlahn)
1 vote for Rashan (Meanas)

-ment

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 June 2012 - 11:48 PM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:46 PM

Busy right now, watching E3 et al, will post more tomorrow!

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:47 PM

 Korbas, on 04 June 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

 Karosis, on 04 June 2012 - 11:30 PM, said:

OK, so tracking back, I see there's been a lot of discussion about whether it's best to go after Batman or the Cults. According to Ment's clarification above, the Batman only needs to kill all the Cult leaders to win. If it weren't for that, I'd say it's a no brainer to go after the Cults first - they get stronger over time, whereas the Batman doesn't. But Batman's VCs throw that out the window. I think it's definitely in our interests to get rid of a cult or two, but given the mechanics about how information is revealed on cult members, I'm pretty sure that we're going to get information on thread that makes at least one of them a sure thing, so we can probably wait a little to see if any information comes out on that front. In the meantime, if we can force Batman to pull a Big Ben early, it will make his life a lot more difficult - having to emulate another player's style is pretty tough to keep up for a whole game. It's unclear whether an NK on Batman removes one of his lives...I hope so! But probably not something that's worth banking on.




yeah. Agreed, this reflects my current mindstate


Yeah, I agree with this. My worry is that if we get bogged down in cross-recruiting and revealing, we will either do Batman's job for him by revealing all the recruiters or he's going to pick everyone off one by one as we slowly get recruited around.

Smartest play, if we could do it, would be to take out at least 2 recruiters and then hunt for the Bat. 3 if we are feeling ballsy, because all it takes is one bad lynch or one good Batkill to end the game. But still, the balance town has to maintain right now is very difficult.

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 11:48 PM

Shit, I've still got the most votes, and they're all joke votes? Maybe the JOKER is on my train HA HA HA. Oh, comedy.

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