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#361 User is offline   Serc 

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:26 PM

View PostKaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

View PostSerc, on 27 April 2012 - 01:15 PM, said:

Vote Sorrit

My reasons are I think we need a Lynch and Sorrit is at least somewhat suspicious, although not entirely imo, the fact that Telas voted for Sorrit, and the fact that Tulas did NOT vote for Sorrit.

May change but leaving as is in case my vote is needed and I dont make it back on today.


Are you high? Read what you wrote.

My vote stays where it is. I'm off for the night. Nite!



LoL I was voting for Sorrit, not telling you to. And giving three reasons why.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:26 PM

View PostSerc, on 27 April 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

No one has pulled what I've said to pieces, and I think there's a strong possibility that Serc is a leader of a faction or of zombies.

Vote Serc


Wrong on both accounts. And if I was the leader of a faction and it turned out to be yours? Would be a risky vote, although possibly worth the risk.

This means you're possibly an independant, because you dont care if Im either, even though you know its obvious Im neither.

Whats your game Ruse?


True, but I'm reasonably certain you're not on my team. You know, kinda like you seem pretty certain Kaschan, Sorrit and Omtose? aren't on yours.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:29 PM

Someone asked for an explanation of my vote - I already gave it. I like Serc's style, and I wanted to see where his prodding leads. Yeah, I'm a self-admitted vote follower.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:32 PM

Looking again at the role bios, I'm thinking that the independents like the lone avenger and the voodoo dude might be more dangerous than the zombies in the long run. Only one of each so they're harder to track down, and although there's a lot of zombies (about a third of total players to begin this game, yeah?), they don't seem to have any defences, unless there's something not stated in the OP.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:33 PM

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 01:26 PM, said:

View PostSerc, on 27 April 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

No one has pulled what I've said to pieces, and I think there's a strong possibility that Serc is a leader of a faction or of zombies.

Vote Serc


Wrong on both accounts. And if I was the leader of a faction and it turned out to be yours? Would be a risky vote, although possibly worth the risk.

This means you're possibly an independant, because you dont care if Im either, even though you know its obvious Im neither.

Whats your game Ruse?


True, but I'm reasonably certain you're not on my team. You know, kinda like you seem pretty certain Kaschan, Sorrit and Omtose? aren't on yours.



Omtose? I have no clue what his game is. And I took my vote away from Kaschan on the slight possibility that I was wrong about him being Zombie. Sorrit isnt saying much, and Ive given my reasons for Sorrit.

And if you're SURE we're not on the same team and willing to take the chance im a faction leader that could even be yours, then I doubt you're human faction at all. So maybe you are right to vote for me.

I think its actually because I "annoyed" you.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:38 PM

View PostSerc, on 27 April 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 01:26 PM, said:

View PostSerc, on 27 April 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

No one has pulled what I've said to pieces, and I think there's a strong possibility that Serc is a leader of a faction or of zombies.

Vote Serc


Wrong on both accounts. And if I was the leader of a faction and it turned out to be yours? Would be a risky vote, although possibly worth the risk.

This means you're possibly an independant, because you dont care if Im either, even though you know its obvious Im neither.

Whats your game Ruse?


True, but I'm reasonably certain you're not on my team. You know, kinda like you seem pretty certain Kaschan, Sorrit and Omtose? aren't on yours.



Omtose? I have no clue what his game is. And I took my vote away from Kaschan on the slight possibility that I was wrong about him being Zombie. Sorrit isnt saying much, and Ive given my reasons for Sorrit.

And if you're SURE we're not on the same team and willing to take the chance im a faction leader that could even be yours, then I doubt you're human faction at all. So maybe you are right to vote for me.

I think its actually because I "annoyed" you.


Hmm, I don't think think so. There are many annoying mafia players, so I try not to vote for them based on my highly developed sense of irritabilty. It's more the fact that you've been throwing out accusations willynilly, without caring about the possibilities of players being your potential team mates (which you now seem to think is required from myself) combined with that train beginning from your vote which was begun in retaliation and continued in a manner I find to be suspect.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:41 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 27 April 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

Looking again at the role bios, I'm thinking that the independents like the lone avenger and the voodoo dude might be more dangerous than the zombies in the long run. Only one of each so they're harder to track down, and although there's a lot of zombies (about a third of total players to begin this game, yeah?), they don't seem to have any defences, unless there's something not stated in the OP.


Odd time to be bringing this up, but let's go with it. The independents have winning conditions that not neccesarily exclude a faction win, as stated by PS earlier. Also cult makes everyone nervous, in my experience.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:55 PM

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

So we have Kaschan's initial case and vote on Serc

View PostKaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 04:29 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 27 April 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

View PostKorbas, on 27 April 2012 - 03:03 AM, said:

@Serc- it is still unclear, though there were several mechanic related theories on thread earlier. Though I am of the opinion that one player controls a zombie block, with potential SH helpers to post in the several alts, but ultimately the player will choose the NA, not the mod. So if each Zom-boss (go with it, it's fun and easy!) controls 4 zombies, they would be able to overwhelm anyone with a DR of 3 now, and recruit anyone less than DR of 2 (ie. any independent or 4/6ths of the human factions). For the people saying they do not see the undead threat, it is there. This game is going to be a blood-bath...
I think you're onto something. These mechanics you're suggesting would help fill some holes in our theories and would enable the attacks to work in a defined way. But there's not enough zombies, seemingly, to do enough damage as is, so there must be some kind of system for them growing in numbers. I mean if we all chose not to Lynch anyone ever would that mean we need not fear zombies? But then no one would ever win.They're gonna get some of US somehow but I'm hoping we do have some chance in these attacks. Although I'm guessing the first couple attacks might be unavoidable.I suggest we keep the right people alive at least at first.
And who, pray tell, are the right people? Also, the zombies are most likely able to recruit right away, especially if they are hitting one of the lower DR roles. How would zombie attacks be 'unavoidable'? Why do you think there isn't enough Zombies to do 'damage'? Why are you trying to downplay the Zombies (which are cults)?



View PostKaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

Because I forgot to add it to the post above. Vote Serc


Then we have the retaliation vote from Serc


View PostSerc, on 27 April 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

View PostKaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 06:23 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on 27 April 2012 - 06:20 AM, said:

Im guessing Ill be the first meal?
Look Mom, more WIFOM! This way if you don't die at night, you can say it is because you called me out. And if you do die at night, any team you might have can then claim I'm a zombie because you died. But what if you are recruited? Then we will never know!Your confusing of the thread with bullshit and WIFOM is boring and poor play.Of course this is all assuming you are not a Zombie.
The way Kaschan felt the need to finally add "assuming you are not a Zombie" after all his tirades against my thoughts felt forced. Didnt seem like he believed it one bit. In fact its as if he KNOWS in his mind I'm no Zombie because he would know. MAYBE.But even if not, Kaschan is playing a very powerful role here. My guess is he's some type of Zombie leader the way he descibed the zombie threat. I fished for quite awhile, and he was the only one who stepped up. Then again he could be one of the leaders of the three human factions for all I know, but more likely an independant. My point is I think he's definately a major player, and I vote to take him out. I cant figure out Tulas, Sorrit, and crews game yet, but Kachan seems a bit too sure of himself.Worse case scenario is he is the leader of a human faction. If we lynch him tonight its only a one in three chance he's your leader if your human, and Id take that chance because he's more than likely Zombie or Independant.Either way I cant see a better option for day one.remove votevote KaschanBecause the night is Dark and Full of Terrors


Followed fairly soon after by a vote from Thyr that's does seem to be engaging in what's happening, there's not much in the way of opinion or anything

View PostThyrllan, on 27 April 2012 - 09:46 AM, said:

[HEAVENLY MUSIC PLAYS - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!]Posted ImageThyrllan, on a mission to make his alt the new Fener. Also, game-wise, I don't like Serc, but I like his style.Vote Kaschan


And then a hit and run by D'riss

View PostD, on 27 April 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

Vote KaschanI think I am up to date as can be. He does seem to be confused about what's going on in the OP and a bit jumpy towards people who point a finger his way. My brain hurts I will be around later hopefully to have more of a read through the thread


And voila! We have a train that's almost the size of the two leading trains. It's odd. I'm going to admit I could be missing posts from Thyr and D'riss, because I'm mostly tracking votes and I'm incredibly tired, but does anyone else think this looks odd? At first I thought he could be a faction leader with somewhat clumsy followers, but there's always the chance of zombies as well. Although I'm not sure that anyone would want to risk being connected together this way so early in the game.


Man, you almost can't sleep to keep up with all the posts in this game. It's taken me a couple of hours just to get caught back up. After doing my read through, I have to say that I am agreeing with Ruse, this train built quite fast and has the feel of either people working together or a horde of zombies.

I feel good where I stand so far on Sorrit, but I could go with a Serc lynch.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:55 PM

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 27 April 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

Looking again at the role bios, I'm thinking that the independents like the lone avenger and the voodoo dude might be more dangerous than the zombies in the long run. Only one of each so they're harder to track down, and although there's a lot of zombies (about a third of total players to begin this game, yeah?), they don't seem to have any defences, unless there's something not stated in the OP.


Odd time to be bringing this up, but let's go with it. The independents have winning conditions that not neccesarily exclude a faction win, as stated by PS earlier. Also cult makes everyone nervous, in my experience.


Odd, why? I was thinking about it before I got back to the computer, then stated it once I came back. Anyways, it's true that factions can win alongside the independents, but the independents' VCs, if successful, make the job a lot more difficult for the human factions, no? That's the case with the lone avenger, anyway, from what I can tell.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:55 PM

We need atleast twelve more votes to get someone lynched and time is running out. I wonder if this'll be a lynch-free day.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 01:59 PM

Guys, I don't have any more time today before deadline to read over the forum, and I'm still majorly catching up. The Sorrit case is the first and only major one I've come up to and read over, and even though I'm 50/50 on it, I'm going to

Vote Sorrit

Simply because the Sorrit post where he's like so vote for me could be because he's got other alts to play with, though I'm not even convincing myself with that. But I feel votes should be laid down - this shouldn't be like Tapper's game where there were no lynches. Sorry I haven't been of more help today - starting late is a real bummer in this game.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:01 PM

View PostThyrllan, on 27 April 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 27 April 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

View PostThyrllan, on 27 April 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

Looking again at the role bios, I'm thinking that the independents like the lone avenger and the voodoo dude might be more dangerous than the zombies in the long run. Only one of each so they're harder to track down, and although there's a lot of zombies (about a third of total players to begin this game, yeah?), they don't seem to have any defences, unless there's something not stated in the OP.
Odd time to be bringing this up, but let's go with it. The independents have winning conditions that not neccesarily exclude a faction win, as stated by PS earlier. Also cult makes everyone nervous, in my experience.
Odd, why? I was thinking about it before I got back to the computer, then stated it once I came back. Anyways, it's true that factions can win alongside the independents, but the independents' VCs, if successful, make the job a lot more difficult for the human factions, no? That's the case with the lone avenger, anyway, from what I can tell.


Because we haven't got a lot of time left in the day.

It does make it somewhat more difficult, it's true, but it's the kind of thing that will probably take avenger a little while, which is probably why no one's too worried about him on day 1.

View PostTelas, on 27 April 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

We need atleast twelve more votes to get someone lynched and time is running out. I wonder if this'll be a lynch-free day.


Yeah it's not looking good...

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:05 PM

It is Day 1. 3 hours and 36 minutes remaining
32 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Kalse, Karosis, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shelthata Lore, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

17 votes to lynch, 16 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Fener ( Sorrit )
6 Votes for Sorrit ( Meanas, Korvalain, Liosan, Telas, Serc, Mockra )
3 Votes for Tulas Shorn ( Anomandaris, Emurlahn, Olar Ethil )
3 Votes for Kaschan ( Thyrllan, D'riss, Tulas Shorn )
4 Votes for Serc ( Kaschan, Galain, Karosis, Ruse )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Fener, Kalse, Korbas, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Shelthata Lore, Silanah, Spite, Tellan, Tennes
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:09 PM

I'm around and i'm willing to switch.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:11 PM

There are a lot of people laying low and not even voting. Do we think that the zombies cannot all vote or that their votes don't count?

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:16 PM

'mornin' y'all

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:16 PM

View PostTelas, on 27 April 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

We need atleast twelve more votes to get someone lynched and time is running out. I wonder if this'll be a lynch-free day.



I think this is going to be one of the biggest problems with the Zombies. They are going to try and herd us into voting their direction.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:18 PM

View PostD, on 27 April 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

There are a lot of people laying low and not even voting. Do we think that the zombies cannot all vote or that their votes don't count?


We can only hope their votes don't count :thumbsup: But that's unlikely, since the number of votes needed to lynch is half the number of alts, so it's probably safe to assume the zombies can all vote, otherwise it's going to be really, really hard to get lynches. Which would suck.

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:31 PM

Right i'm away for the weekend, i'll try and get back on at some point

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Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:32 PM

Sorrit seems like the only lynch available, although i'd like to see Serc and Kaschan investigated further!

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