[Eloth]

I'm back now, gonna take a while to read the last few pages

[Kaschan]

@Ruse. I find the Thyrllan thing odd. Not sure about D'riss. If D'riss is a zombie I would guess then he is a zombie from the 'other' side just trying to get a vote down to look like hes playing while he tries to manage multiple alts. 3 votes from the same 5-vote faction would be rather dangerous on day 1. Of course it can all be hand-waved away as WIFOM.

[Kaschan]

Ive got a couple minutes before I head out if anyone wants to chat...

[Galain]

Ruse, on 27 April 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

So we have Kaschan's initial case and vote on Serc

Kaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 04:29 AM, said:

Serc, on 27 April 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

Korbas, on 27 April 2012 - 03:03 AM, said:

@Serc- it is still unclear, though there were several mechanic related theories on thread earlier. Though I am of the opinion that one player controls a zombie block, with potential SH helpers to post in the several alts, but ultimately the player will choose the NA, not the mod. So if each Zom-boss (go with it, it's fun and easy!) controls 4 zombies, they would be able to overwhelm anyone with a DR of 3 now, and recruit anyone less than DR of 2 (ie. any independent or 4/6ths of the human factions). For the people saying they do not see the undead threat, it is there. This game is going to be a blood-bath...

I think you're onto something. These mechanics you're suggesting would help fill some holes in our theories and would enable the attacks to work in a defined way. But there's not enough zombies, seemingly, to do enough damage as is, so there must be some kind of system for them growing in numbers. I mean if we all chose not to Lynch anyone ever would that mean we need not fear zombies? But then no one would ever win.They're gonna get some of US somehow but I'm hoping we do have some chance in these attacks. Although I'm guessing the first couple attacks might be unavoidable.I suggest we keep the right people alive at least at first.

And who, pray tell, are the right people? Also, the zombies are most likely able to recruit right away, especially if they are hitting one of the lower DR roles. How would zombie attacks be 'unavoidable'? Why do you think there isn't enough Zombies to do 'damage'? Why are you trying to downplay the Zombies (which are cults)?

Kaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

Because I forgot to add it to the post above. Vote Serc

Then we have the retaliation vote from Serc

Serc, on 27 April 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

Kaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 06:23 AM, said:

Serc, on 27 April 2012 - 06:20 AM, said:

Im guessing Ill be the first meal?

Look Mom, more WIFOM! This way if you don't die at night, you can say it is because you called me out. And if you do die at night, any team you might have can then claim I'm a zombie because you died. But what if you are recruited? Then we will never know!Your confusing of the thread with bullshit and WIFOM is boring and poor play.Of course this is all assuming you are not a Zombie.

The way Kaschan felt the need to finally add "assuming you are not a Zombie" after all his tirades against my thoughts felt forced. Didnt seem like he believed it one bit. In fact its as if he KNOWS in his mind I'm no Zombie because he would know. MAYBE.But even if not, Kaschan is playing a very powerful role here. My guess is he's some type of Zombie leader the way he descibed the zombie threat. I fished for quite awhile, and he was the only one who stepped up. Then again he could be one of the leaders of the three human factions for all I know, but more likely an independant. My point is I think he's definately a major player, and I vote to take him out. I cant figure out Tulas, Sorrit, and crews game yet, but Kachan seems a bit too sure of himself.Worse case scenario is he is the leader of a human faction. If we lynch him tonight its only a one in three chance he's your leader if your human, and Id take that chance because he's more than likely Zombie or Independant.Either way I cant see a better option for day one.remove votevote KaschanBecause the night is Dark and Full of Terrors

Followed fairly soon after by a vote from Thyr that's does seem to be engaging in what's happening, there's not much in the way of opinion or anything

Thyrllan, on 27 April 2012 - 09:46 AM, said:

[HEAVENLY MUSIC PLAYS - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!]Thyrllan, on a mission to make his alt the new Fener. Also, game-wise, I don't like Serc, but I like his style.Vote Kaschan

And then a hit and run by D'riss

D, on 27 April 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

Vote KaschanI think I am up to date as can be. He does seem to be confused about what's going on in the OP and a bit jumpy towards people who point a finger his way. My brain hurts I will be around later hopefully to have more of a read through the thread

And voila! We have a train that's almost the size of the two leading trains. It's odd. I'm going to admit I could be missing posts from Thyr and D'riss, because I'm mostly tracking votes and I'm incredibly tired, but does anyone else think this looks odd? At first I thought he could be a faction leader with somewhat clumsy followers, but there's always the chance of zombies as well. Although I'm not sure that anyone would want to risk being connected together this way so early in the game.

I agree with you here Ruse. Kaschan's train built too fast when Serc received heat from Kaschan.

Vote Serc

[Galain]

I'm here Kaschan. What are your thought on Fener and Serc?

[Kaschan]

Galain, on 27 April 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

I'm here Kaschan. What are your thought on Fener and Serc?

Im pretty sure my thoughts on Serc are quite blatant. He is a zombie posting looking for anyone to comment on the 'zombie' roll so he can say 'AHA! A Zombie!'

Fener I have no read on really, I think I need to read up over the weekend.

[Olar Ethil]

We are certainly running out of time. 17 votes we need. I think Tulas and Sorrit are our best target for today.

[Olar Ethil]

Kaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

Galain, on 27 April 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

I'm here Kaschan. What are your thought on Fener and Serc?

Im pretty sure my thoughts on Serc are quite blatant. He is a zombie posting looking for anyone to comment on the 'zombie' roll so he can say 'AHA! A Zombie!'

Fener I have no read on really, I think I need to read up over the weekend.

5 hours left, will you be back in time? If not who do you think out of Tulas or Sorrit looks more zombieish?

[Galain]

Kaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

Galain, on 27 April 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

I'm here Kaschan. What are your thought on Fener and Serc?

Im pretty sure my thoughts on Serc are quite blatant. He is a zombie posting looking for anyone to comment on the 'zombie' roll so he can say 'AHA! A Zombie!'

Fener I have no read on really, I think I need to read up over the weekend.

Well I think it'll go into weekend before day times out so we'll be able to discuss it then I reckon.

[Galain]

PS what is happening with weekend freeze?

[Kaschan]

Olar Ethil, on 27 April 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

Galain, on 27 April 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

I'm here Kaschan. What are your thought on Fener and Serc?

Im pretty sure my thoughts on Serc are quite blatant. He is a zombie posting looking for anyone to comment on the 'zombie' roll so he can say 'AHA! A Zombie!'

Fener I have no read on really, I think I need to read up over the weekend.

5 hours left, will you be back in time? If not who do you think out of Tulas or Sorrit looks more zombieish?

I will not be back in time, I'm going to get drunk. When I'm drunk I don't post on thread.

Sorrit looks slightly odd from earlier. Tulas looks like an aggresive player... I think Serc or Thyrlan would be the way to go today, but if people aren't agreeing with that I'll change my vote before day is over.

[Tulas Shorn]

TBH, I don't have much of an idea who we should go for. My poking at people is as much to guage reactions from other people as it is from the people I'm questioning.

I think if the idea about having multiple alts connected to a single player is correct then Silanah is our best bet, for reasons stated above, or D'riss, who has been in and out but not really posted anything in the way of content. Otherwise, Omtose's gut idea is bothering me, why bring up gut instinct when there are already several possibilities on the table?

However, there are only a few hours left in the day and none of these are very likely lynch targets. It looks like it is down to me, Sorrit and Kaschan. While I don't really like either of them for the lynch I realise we need a lynch, and I'll put down a vote as I am heading off to bed and wont be back before time out. Therefore:

Vote Kaschan.

[Serc]

Galain, on 27 April 2012 - 12:09 PM, said:

Ruse, on 27 April 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

So we have Kaschan's initial case and vote on Serc

Kaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 04:29 AM, said:

Serc, on 27 April 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

Korbas, on 27 April 2012 - 03:03 AM, said:

@Serc- it is still unclear, though there were several mechanic related theories on thread earlier. Though I am of the opinion that one player controls a zombie block, with potential SH helpers to post in the several alts, but ultimately the player will choose the NA, not the mod. So if each Zom-boss (go with it, it's fun and easy!) controls 4 zombies, they would be able to overwhelm anyone with a DR of 3 now, and recruit anyone less than DR of 2 (ie. any independent or 4/6ths of the human factions). For the people saying they do not see the undead threat, it is there. This game is going to be a blood-bath...

I think you're onto something. These mechanics you're suggesting would help fill some holes in our theories and would enable the attacks to work in a defined way. But there's not enough zombies, seemingly, to do enough damage as is, so there must be some kind of system for them growing in numbers. I mean if we all chose not to Lynch anyone ever would that mean we need not fear zombies? But then no one would ever win.They're gonna get some of US somehow but I'm hoping we do have some chance in these attacks. Although I'm guessing the first couple attacks might be unavoidable.I suggest we keep the right people alive at least at first.

And who, pray tell, are the right people? Also, the zombies are most likely able to recruit right away, especially if they are hitting one of the lower DR roles. How would zombie attacks be 'unavoidable'? Why do you think there isn't enough Zombies to do 'damage'? Why are you trying to downplay the Zombies (which are cults)?

Kaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 04:30 AM, said:

Because I forgot to add it to the post above. Vote Serc

Then we have the retaliation vote from Serc

Serc, on 27 April 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

Kaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 06:23 AM, said:

Serc, on 27 April 2012 - 06:20 AM, said:

Im guessing Ill be the first meal?

Look Mom, more WIFOM! This way if you don't die at night, you can say it is because you called me out. And if you do die at night, any team you might have can then claim I'm a zombie because you died. But what if you are recruited? Then we will never know!Your confusing of the thread with bullshit and WIFOM is boring and poor play.Of course this is all assuming you are not a Zombie.

The way Kaschan felt the need to finally add "assuming you are not a Zombie" after all his tirades against my thoughts felt forced. Didnt seem like he believed it one bit. In fact its as if he KNOWS in his mind I'm no Zombie because he would know. MAYBE.But even if not, Kaschan is playing a very powerful role here. My guess is he's some type of Zombie leader the way he descibed the zombie threat. I fished for quite awhile, and he was the only one who stepped up. Then again he could be one of the leaders of the three human factions for all I know, but more likely an independant. My point is I think he's definately a major player, and I vote to take him out. I cant figure out Tulas, Sorrit, and crews game yet, but Kachan seems a bit too sure of himself.Worse case scenario is he is the leader of a human faction. If we lynch him tonight its only a one in three chance he's your leader if your human, and Id take that chance because he's more than likely Zombie or Independant.Either way I cant see a better option for day one.remove votevote KaschanBecause the night is Dark and Full of Terrors

Followed fairly soon after by a vote from Thyr that's does seem to be engaging in what's happening, there's not much in the way of opinion or anything

Thyrllan, on 27 April 2012 - 09:46 AM, said:

[HEAVENLY MUSIC PLAYS - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!]Thyrllan, on a mission to make his alt the new Fener. Also, game-wise, I don't like Serc, but I like his style.Vote Kaschan

And then a hit and run by D'riss

D, on 27 April 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

Vote KaschanI think I am up to date as can be. He does seem to be confused about what's going on in the OP and a bit jumpy towards people who point a finger his way. My brain hurts I will be around later hopefully to have more of a read through the thread

And voila! We have a train that's almost the size of the two leading trains. It's odd. I'm going to admit I could be missing posts from Thyr and D'riss, because I'm mostly tracking votes and I'm incredibly tired, but does anyone else think this looks odd? At first I thought he could be a faction leader with somewhat clumsy followers, but there's always the chance of zombies as well. Although I'm not sure that anyone would want to risk being connected together this way so early in the game.

I agree with you here Ruse. Kaschan's train built too fast when Serc received heat from Kaschan.

Vote Serc

At least Omtose can finally be satisfied that Ruse an I are not the same person.

I'm afraid that the Zombies may have just played the boldest of us against each other, and are now laughing behind our backs.

I had nothing to do with either of those two additional votes. They were based on the fact that Kaschan seemed the best choice as YOU and crew had gone silent.

You're voting for me for the same reason Telas gave for his choice.

I dont think I deserve your vote based ONLY on Kaschan getting heat.

[Olar Ethil]

Kaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:

Olar Ethil, on 27 April 2012 - 12:13 PM, said:

Kaschan, on 27 April 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

Galain, on 27 April 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

I'm here Kaschan. What are your thought on Fener and Serc?

Im pretty sure my thoughts on Serc are quite blatant. He is a zombie posting looking for anyone to comment on the 'zombie' roll so he can say 'AHA! A Zombie!'

Fener I have no read on really, I think I need to read up over the weekend.

5 hours left, will you be back in time? If not who do you think out of Tulas or Sorrit looks more zombieish?

I will not be back in time, I'm going to get drunk. When I'm drunk I don't post on thread.

Sorrit looks slightly odd from earlier. Tulas looks like an aggresive player... I think Serc or Thyrlan would be the way to go today, but if people aren't agreeing with that I'll change my vote before day is over.

Okay well that's good of you. I was just thinking that we wouldn't want to timeout without a lynch.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 5 hours and 21 minutes remaining
32 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Kalse, Karosis, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shelthata Lore, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

17 votes to lynch, 16 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Fener ( Sorrit )
4 Votes for Tulas Shorn ( Anomandaris, Silanah, Emurlahn, Olar Ethil )
4 Votes for Sorrit ( Meanas, Korvalain, Liosan, Telas )
2 Votes for Serc ( Kaschan, Galain )
3 Votes for Kaschan ( Serc, Thyrllan, D'riss )
1 Vote for Silanah ( Karosis )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Fener, Kalse, Korbas, Mockra, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Shelthata Lore, Spite, Tellan, Tennes, Tulas Shorn

there'll be the usual weekend freeze - posting, voting etc continues, but timers are frozen. I dont know when JLV will want to start the freeze, though

[Silanah]

Well, I wasn't expecting that much of a catchup.

I'm mostly scratching my head at how confident people seem to be in their assertions about others. I'm not sure I really am high on any of the current likely lynch candidates. Between Serc and Kaschan, I don't see either one as strikingly "zombie", as they both make potentially valid points about each other, that cannot be proven either way as it stands now.

One impression that struck me in my readup was how Olar Ethil seemed to come on from no where and bull their way to a vote.

Remove Vote

So I don't forget to do so later.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 1. 5 hours and 14 minutes remaining
32 Players still alive: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Anthras, Atrahal, D'riss, Eloth, Emurlahn, Fener, Galain, Kalse, Karosis, Kaschan, Korbas, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Olar Ethil, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Serc, Shelthata Lore, Silanah, Sorrit, Spite, Telas, Tellan, Tennes, Thyrllan, Tulas Shorn

17 votes to lynch, 16 votes to go to night.

1 Vote for Fener ( Sorrit )
1 Vote for Silanah ( Karosis )
4 Votes for Sorrit ( Meanas, Korvalain, Liosan, Telas )
2 Votes for Serc ( Kaschan, Galain )
3 Votes for Tulas Shorn ( Anomandaris, Emurlahn, Olar Ethil )
4 Votes for Kaschan ( Serc, Thyrllan, D'riss, Tulas Shorn )

Players not voted: Ampelas, Anthras, Atrahal, Eloth, Fener, Kalse, Korbas, Mockra, Omtose, Osseric, Rashan, Ruse, Shelthata Lore, Silanah, Spite, Tellan, Tennes

didnt noticed/crossposted with tulas' vote in the vote count in the post above. Now at early friday evening everyone and their dog is using the internet here in the dorm, and the connection goes from bad to outright terrible <.<

[Karosis]

Spite, on 27 April 2012 - 10:09 AM, said:

Bag-o-dicks and fucktard have been used already? it's only day one!

I'm skimmed back up to speed on the thread. Someone said maybe the zombies have to put the zombie speak in to their posts as per a PS rule. I think they may be on to something. I have to go to work and then a service for a friend who died after, so I wont be on for the rest of the day.

Curtsies.

Serc, on 27 April 2012 - 10:20 AM, said:

And if Im wrong about you Im sorry. But if not, repent your sins.

For the Night is Dark and Full of Terrors

Read this and then in my next post see the signal

Ruse, on 27 April 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

Hmm, I came up with three non-posters: Kalse, Rashan, Shelthata Lore

I thought someone said there were only two. I did so this the long way so I could be wrong, or accidentally include an alt that's been taken out of the game or something, but I used the alts from PS's most recent update. (One day, forum, I will know how to do fancy-pants things like check posting numbers and whatnot)

On the mafia forum , there is a number of posts to the right showing how many posts so far. Click on that number (only works in the forum, not on the new content screen.



Remove Vote
Vote Serc

[Olar Ethil]

Silanah, on 27 April 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Well, I wasn't expecting that much of a catchup.

I'm mostly scratching my head at how confident people seem to be in their assertions about others. I'm not sure I really am high on any of the current likely lynch candidates. Between Serc and Kaschan, I don't see either one as strikingly "zombie", as they both make potentially valid points about each other, that cannot be proven either way as it stands now.

One impression that struck me in my readup was how Olar Ethil seemed to come on from no where and bull their way to a vote.

Remove Vote

So I don't forget to do so later.

Bull my way to a vote. I read through the thread and noticed Tulas being aggressive towards people on multiple occasions and didn't like what I saw. I've listened to what has been put out there but went my own way for a vote for my own reasons. Why are you removing a vote you didn't have down? Who was you voting for?

[Telas]

His original vote was on Fener, Olar.