[Atrahal]

Ok, I decided it was important to go back and read the names, and I discovered...well, a lot.

Alkend, on 15 April 2012 - 03:40 AM, said:

I read that as more that the Dreadfather has the potential to wreak havock on the thieves but is currently allied with them. Which isn't to say that the allience will be permanant through the game. Would make sense since there's another role out there, I'd guess they'd be semi-allied with the Houses of Agreement as well.

Also, if you take a look at the bazaar you'll see that the Riddle of Despair has been marked at how much it's been used, which is all the actions except the last.

Well, this is an interesting post. Why do you think the alliance with the Thieves (and by some extent, also the entire Beggars/Vultures/Nepeth "side") would be temporary? All it actually says about him in relation to alliances and Thieves is this: "It will chafe on him that his allies are the Thieves he usually hunts." This already sounds permanent - the contrast between "his allies are the Thieves he usually hunts." Now, if we're talking in the context of actions taken by players in this game (which we are, not only because the only other paragraph dealt with the death of a Roled player, but, well, be patient), this can't be just idle background but actual actions. "Usually" leads me to believe he been using his actions on the Thieves - capital T, the "house" in the Guild of Beggars - most of the time so far. Now, what actions could those be? Obviously they're negative - the scene says it will "chafe" him and later describes their alliance as "It is like a hunting cat teamed with hares: a recipe for disaster." This sounds like he could probably destroy any of the the Thieves easily and if the cat eats all the hares, well, let's just say the Guild of Beggars would probably be hurting. "Are" implies nothing but simple fact, not possible change or any equivocation of who his allies are.

Oh yes, I forgot to explain who "he" is. The Dreadfather is actually "Mage Hassan the Dreadfather" of the House of Terror - which just so happens to be part of the Cult of Vultures faction. It even slipped by me but he's referenced as a member of the Cult in this scene. So, we know their alliance isn't temporary - the OP clearly states that the Vultures, Nepeth, and Beggars were clearly allied together and all against the House of Agreements - two sides like we've been saying.

And then Alkend says this "Would make sense since there's another role out there, I'd guess they'd be semi-allied with the Houses of Agreement as well." Wait, what? "Another role?" Why would he assume there's just two mystery roles in the game? Also...the OP states:

"Mystery factions have their victory conditions in a seperate PM. Mystery factions can be on either side of the equation."

If you're playing this game at all or know about the previous one, it's obvious that probably every player is Roled from the master list (minus the ones who died last game, of course) and Roles are very, very different than Factions. Each Faction usually has a good number of roles - many around 15 Roles or so - so it's very clear that most of the players in this game will belong to one of the four main factions listed in the OP.

More evidence:

"Nevertheless, the tight discipline that is Hassan's one rescue line hasn't yet snapped."

The list of players actually says that Mage Hassan is the Dreadfather. And line also implies something else, like Hassan (who must be somehow in charge or highly involved with the Thieves) has an ability or item or condition that is holding his little group together. And maybe it's totally unrelated to the Thieves, I have no idea; it could be some other condition for the Cult of Vutures.

On a separate but related note, from the OP:

"In the days to come, he [Huassan ibn Qolat, of the House of Luxury, of the House of Agreements, the current Defterdar] and his supporters would seek to outwit the grand alliance opposing him through legal and illegal means, and they [Vultures/Beggars/Nepeth] would seek to do the same to him. He would have the vastness of his resources and connections and, very importantly, the initiative, they would have numbers and the opportunity they craved.:"

Ok...so we are getting numbers information here. The House of Agreements appears to be up against a "grand alliance", and his opponents (Vultures/Beggars/Nepeth) have the advantage of numbers (obvious) and opportunity (not sure what this could be, but it has to increase their "opportunity" to elect the next Defterdar, as they have already been trying to hold new elections, which prompted ibn Qolat's request to be Defterdar and solely in charge, with no Council, which is the act that catalyzed this game and the circumstances of its factions). The HoA, on the other hand, probably have boadloads of cash and/or goods (hence the title purchases) and "connections", which almost implies off thread communications.

That's a lot of info. And I do this to say, Alkend, how could you make so many obvious mistakes? Referring to and assuming the Dreadfather was "a mystery role" and was probably allied with the HoA as well, just like the "other role"? Either he's had contact with the Dreadfather and didn't realize he was a Cult member (or maybe he just never bothered to look up the name), or he's actually got knowledge of this supposed "other role", which is "probably also allied with the House of Alliances." There is just too much info here that has to come from somewhere else.

And even though he could be aligned with either faction and be able to make the post above, my real suspicion is that he assumed the Dreadfather was a "mystery role" like he was and misspoke when he implied there were only two of their kind. If he's somehow allied with both "sides", that would make a lot of sense too, or if he was able to switch his allegiance. In the last game we had single-Role Faction members whose VCs were very much out of their hands; for instance, they aligned with the Faction of the first player that died. Not much of a choice. Also, he would probably be more likely to slip up and talk about "mystery roles" if he was the one person from a mystery faction. Seems like he is or could be aligned with either faction if he chose to, though, unlike the previous game. You wouldn't assume something like that had changed...unless you had good reason.

So Alkend, you did disappear, you have low-posted, and I accuse you of making massive slipups that reveal you know more than a lot of people and should be considered extremely dangerous as a "mystery" element.

I can't remember what the rules are for the weekend, but

Vote Alkend

If that needs to be redone on Monday to be valid, then this was just for emphasis.

edit - added the word "goods"

This post has been edited by Atrahal: 15 April 2012 - 06:50 AM

[Atrahal]

Alkend, on 15 April 2012 - 03:40 AM, said:

I read that as more that the Dreadfather has the potential to wreak havock on the thieves but is currently allied with them. Which isn't to say that the allience will be permanant through the game. Would make sense since there's another role out there, I'd guess they'd be semi-allied with the Houses of Agreement as well.

Also, if you take a look at the bazaar you'll see that the Riddle of Despair has been marked at how much it's been used, which is all the actions except the last.

Oh, and like two other people already mentioned that info about the RoD. One of them was the post above yours; it was mine.

[Omtose]

Whether it's right or not, that's an excellent post Atrahal. And it struck me with a sudden thought. Maybe I should ask this of PS, but, is it possible for players to buy more than one of the titles?

The reason I ask is because you mentioned the fact that HoA, while having the initiative (which I took to mean that they would have the resources to act first, as we've seen, with the first three titles to be bought all going in their direction), they would be outnumbered. Well, what if there are actually less than five HoA players in the game? That is, fewer than the amount of titles needed to win? It would make sense, seeing as we only had 13 players to begin with. If that is the case, then that's a LOT of money and resources which the HoA have to plow simply into getting hold of the titles, because there's no one else there to pick up the slack, while the alliance faction can concentrate more on building up their power.

As for Alkend, I too was confused by what he meant when he said, "since there's another role out there." I have no idea what he's trying to say by this, and it could well be a slip-up.

[Path-Shaper]

Omtose, on 15 April 2012 - 08:03 AM, said:

Whether it's right or not, that's an excellent post Atrahal. And it struck me with a sudden thought. Maybe I should ask this of PS, but, is it possible for players to buy more than one of the titles?

The reason I ask is because you mentioned the fact that HoA, while having the initiative (which I took to mean that they would have the resources to act first, as we've seen, with the first three titles to be bought all going in their direction), they would be outnumbered. Well, what if there are actually less than five HoA players in the game? That is, fewer than the amount of titles needed to win? It would make sense, seeing as we only had 13 players to begin with. If that is the case, then that's a LOT of money and resources which the HoA have to plow simply into getting hold of the titles, because there's no one else there to pick up the slack, while the alliance faction can concentrate more on building up their power.

As for Alkend, I too was confused by what he meant when he said, "since there's another role out there." I have no idea what he's trying to say by this, and it could well be a slip-up.

Each player can hold any amount of (council) titles. This is that type of oligarchy where 4 people hold the titles and offices of 23.

[Path-Shaper]

It is still early in the morning when a freak storm starts. The air in the audience room is sucked out of it, servants faint, and as I rush to the door, I am treated to an unfamiliar spectacle. The wind howls, a curtain of red desert sand descents like a rain of blood. Five twisters whirl around the eastern side of the city walls, and another five to the west, like massive fingers looking to scoop up the city. A demonic face streaked with lightning forms in the sky: a single eye set in the forehead of a long drawn face, like that of an old man. The mouth is wide agape. People in the streets, so used to Magic and Djinn, are confused. Some rush inside buildings, others stare and point. This is the kind of summoning few mages ever dare contemplate, let alone try. For this is Dalum, the Elemental Djinn of Air.
My eyes wander to the university district, and I spot the culprit: a tiny figure, the size of only half a man, arms raised to the sky, on top of the House of the Many Stairs.

[Path-Shaper]

And with that, I'm out again. Ciao!

[Alkend]

Atrahal, on 15 April 2012 - 06:44 AM, said:

Ok, I decided it was important to go back and read the names, and I discovered...well, a lot.

Alkend, on 15 April 2012 - 03:40 AM, said:

I read that as more that the Dreadfather has the potential to wreak havock on the thieves but is currently allied with them. Which isn't to say that the allience will be permanant through the game. Would make sense since there's another role out there, I'd guess they'd be semi-allied with the Houses of Agreement as well.

Also, if you take a look at the bazaar you'll see that the Riddle of Despair has been marked at how much it's been used, which is all the actions except the last.

Well, this is an interesting post. Why do you think the alliance with the Thieves (and by some extent, also the entire Beggars/Vultures/Nepeth "side") would be temporary? All it actually says about him in relation to alliances and Thieves is this: "It will chafe on him that his allies are the Thieves he usually hunts." This already sounds permanent - the contrast between "his allies are the Thieves he usually hunts." Now, if we're talking in the context of actions taken by players in this game (which we are, not only because the only other paragraph dealt with the death of a Roled player, but, well, be patient), this can't be just idle background but actual actions. "Usually" leads me to believe he been using his actions on the Thieves - capital T, the "house" in the Guild of Beggars - most of the time so far. Now, what actions could those be? Obviously they're negative - the scene says it will "chafe" him and later describes their alliance as "It is like a hunting cat teamed with hares: a recipe for disaster." This sounds like he could probably destroy any of the the Thieves easily and if the cat eats all the hares, well, let's just say the Guild of Beggars would probably be hurting. "Are" implies nothing but simple fact, not possible change or any equivocation of who his allies are.

Oh yes, I forgot to explain who "he" is. The Dreadfather is actually "Mage Hassan the Dreadfather" of the House of Terror - which just so happens to be part of the Cult of Vultures faction. It even slipped by me but he's referenced as a member of the Cult in this scene. So, we know their alliance isn't temporary - the OP clearly states that the Vultures, Nepeth, and Beggars were clearly allied together and all against the House of Agreements - two sides like we've been saying.

And then Alkend says this "Would make sense since there's another role out there, I'd guess they'd be semi-allied with the Houses of Agreement as well." Wait, what? "Another role?" Why would he assume there's just two mystery roles in the game? Also...the OP states:

"Mystery factions have their victory conditions in a seperate PM. Mystery factions can be on either side of the equation."

If you're playing this game at all or know about the previous one, it's obvious that probably every player is Roled from the master list (minus the ones who died last game, of course) and Roles are very, very different than Factions. Each Faction usually has a good number of roles - many around 15 Roles or so - so it's very clear that most of the players in this game will belong to one of the four main factions listed in the OP.

More evidence:

"Nevertheless, the tight discipline that is Hassan's one rescue line hasn't yet snapped."

The list of players actually says that Mage Hassan is the Dreadfather. And line also implies something else, like Hassan (who must be somehow in charge or highly involved with the Thieves) has an ability or item or condition that is holding his little group together. And maybe it's totally unrelated to the Thieves, I have no idea; it could be some other condition for the Cult of Vutures.

On a separate but related note, from the OP:

"In the days to come, he [Huassan ibn Qolat, of the House of Luxury, of the House of Agreements, the current Defterdar] and his supporters would seek to outwit the grand alliance opposing him through legal and illegal means, and they [Vultures/Beggars/Nepeth] would seek to do the same to him. He would have the vastness of his resources and connections and, very importantly, the initiative, they would have numbers and the opportunity they craved.:"

Ok...so we are getting numbers information here. The House of Agreements appears to be up against a "grand alliance", and his opponents (Vultures/Beggars/Nepeth) have the advantage of numbers (obvious) and opportunity (not sure what this could be, but it has to increase their "opportunity" to elect the next Defterdar, as they have already been trying to hold new elections, which prompted ibn Qolat's request to be Defterdar and solely in charge, with no Council, which is the act that catalyzed this game and the circumstances of its factions). The HoA, on the other hand, probably have boadloads of cash and/or goods (hence the title purchases) and "connections", which almost implies off thread communications.

That's a lot of info. And I do this to say, Alkend, how could you make so many obvious mistakes? Referring to and assuming the Dreadfather was "a mystery role" and was probably allied with the HoA as well, just like the "other role"? Either he's had contact with the Dreadfather and didn't realize he was a Cult member (or maybe he just never bothered to look up the name), or he's actually got knowledge of this supposed "other role", which is "probably also allied with the House of Alliances." There is just too much info here that has to come from somewhere else.

And even though he could be aligned with either faction and be able to make the post above, my real suspicion is that he assumed the Dreadfather was a "mystery role" like he was and misspoke when he implied there were only two of their kind. If he's somehow allied with both "sides", that would make a lot of sense too, or if he was able to switch his allegiance. In the last game we had single-Role Faction members whose VCs were very much out of their hands; for instance, they aligned with the Faction of the first player that died. Not much of a choice. Also, he would probably be more likely to slip up and talk about "mystery roles" if he was the one person from a mystery faction. Seems like he is or could be aligned with either faction if he chose to, though, unlike the previous game. You wouldn't assume something like that had changed...unless you had good reason.

So Alkend, you did disappear, you have low-posted, and I accuse you of making massive slipups that reveal you know more than a lot of people and should be considered extremely dangerous as a "mystery" element.

I can't remember what the rules are for the weekend, but

Vote Alkend

If that needs to be redone on Monday to be valid, then this was just for emphasis.

edit - added the word "goods"

/sigh. I don't really want to repost your whole long post, but it's probably easier if I do.

It "even" slipped by you, and it obviously slipped by me that he was the Cult. So there we go. I thought the post indicated that he was allied with the Thieves, and the reason I think it's not neccessary permanant in the game is the line
"Nevertheless, the tight discipline that is Hassan's one rescue line hasn't yet snapped." I figure that's a fairly obvious indication that the alliance can be dissolved, though I have no idea what exactly would lead to that. Because I missed that Hassan is a member of the Cult of Vultures, I thought of PS post at the end of Day 1:

Path-Shaper, on 12 April 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

...

Further on, the thread of the Nepeth. Ever building, ever expanding, ever tilling more fields. Ever making more friends. I have no wish to think of the Nepeth tonight. My eyes pick up movement, far away. Thieves on the prowl, and darker things, even. The Tower above the Precipice is dark. The Terror of the Night is out there, dark magic at his fingertips. The Night Prophet, too, may be involved, although on which side of the conflict? With him, it is never simple. Flying carpets circle the buildings of the Cult and its university. And what of the House of Iron? What is their plan? They're very quiet, but they're also ibn Qolats oldest allies, Gold and Steel working in accord.

...

Terror of the Night = 'Mage Hassan the Dreadfather of the House of Terror'
Add the two without realising that he's Cult of Vultures, and it's not really that incomprehensible a mistake.

I've had to skim the thread fairly quickly to keep up with what was happening, I've not had a lot of time spare in the last week. There's not a lot I can do about that, unfortunately, but my low posting has been unintentional, since most of my avaliable time has been spent figuring out the bazaar and trying to support the winning conditions for my team, which, like the majority of players, involves trying to build up and make money for the acquisition of titles. I was surprised at first about how fast title were going, but I thought about it a bit more, and I figure they'll probably be made avaliable again when/if they become vacant, unless there is a way to designate an heir of sorts. Which seems a bit unlikely, but I wouldn't put it past Tapper for this game, given how complicated the rest of it is

Really not one of the mystery roles, sorry. But that's probably the only way to really scare people into a lynch in this game, particularly if you're right about the Cult of Vultures, Guild of Beggars and the Nepeth being the majority. Which is great for them, but I'm guessing that the majority of that faction have started out poor, at least in comparison to the Houses of Agreement, and also puts the faction at a higher chance of getting hit by a lynch in the search for the members of the mystery factions.

[Omtose]

Well, we know there is at least 3 HoA players, because they've bought titles. And looking up their names in Taps' list shows they're all from the House of Luxury (is this correct? I didn't double-check with the posts but all the names looked familiar). And the House of Iron has been mentioned in the scene posts, which leads me to the conclusion there are at least 4 HoA players (3 House of Luxury, 1 House of Iron).

1 Night Prophet of unknown alliance.

Leaving possibly 8 players in the alliance. Maybe one more for the HoA, and seven in the alliance is more likely, I'm not sure. There were at least two Cult of Vultures players to begin with - Kara was one, and whoever released this Djinn of Air is the other.

BUT, Tapper did say mystery factions, so there might well be still be other players of unknown alliance like the Night Prophet.

Edit: Oh I forgot the Dreadfather, that's another Cult, though he could be the same person who released the Djinn.

This post has been edited by Omtose: 15 April 2012 - 12:34 PM

[Kessobahn]

I'll be around in the next hour or o, just posting from my mobile at the moment,

[Kessobahn]

Atrahal, on 13 April 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 13 April 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 13 April 2012 - 08:50 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 13 April 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

I'm around for a little while, its been a busy day and hopefully i'll have more time over the weekend. Korlat has received a few votes so i'll need to read up on that, is there a problem with the Bazaar? I Just tried to access it and it doesn't seem to be working.

What browser are you using? All of a sudden this morning I couldn't see it either, but switching browsers solved the problem.

Firefox. Which one are you using?

Same for me; switch to Chrome for H&M, works fine.

It works on internet explorer but not on firefox so i've not been able to buy/sell anything since Friday. I'm good now though and I have more time to play from now on which is great. Yesterday was way to busy for me to even play on my phone

[Barghast]

Kessobahn, on 15 April 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 13 April 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 13 April 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 13 April 2012 - 08:50 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 13 April 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

I'm around for a little while, its been a busy day and hopefully i'll have more time over the weekend. Korlat has received a few votes so i'll need to read up on that, is there a problem with the Bazaar? I Just tried to access it and it doesn't seem to be working.

What browser are you using? All of a sudden this morning I couldn't see it either, but switching browsers solved the problem.

Firefox. Which one are you using?

Same for me; switch to Chrome for H&M, works fine.

It works on internet explorer but not on firefox so i've not been able to buy/sell anything since Friday. I'm good now though and I have more time to play from now on which is great. Yesterday was way to busy for me to even play on my phone

Safari works too if you don't have chrome.

[Kessobahn]

I've been thinking about this and I think a lynch today would be a better option than a no lynch. Looking at the game a no lynch seems to benefit people buying and selling goods/contracts/items on the bazaar because 3 titles have been bought. If a lot of players started off poor then they should want to stop the HoA from being able to increase their funds and buying titles.

[Kessobahn]

To me this has been a very confusing game so far but enjoyable. Who's around? Atrahal's case ^ is very interesting, it is well thought out and makes a lot of sense. The only thing i'd say is that if we think he is not HoA then another target may be better for today, when the number of players is decreased then we could look at lynching Alkend but I personally find Korlat the better candidate of coming up HoA.

[Okaros]

Kessobahn, on 15 April 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

To me this has been a very confusing game so far but enjoyable. Who's around? Atrahal's case ^ is very interesting, it is well thought out and makes a lot of sense. The only thing i'd say is that if we think he is not HoA then another target may be better for today, when the number of players is decreased then we could look at lynching Alkend but I personally find Korlat the better candidate of coming up HoA.

I am around for a bit. I think that Atrahal's case is very interesting. And since it focuses on someone who could be either a part or either faction or a totally separate party. While I am still against lynching. Their is one for sure revealed HoA player and that is Merrid. To just follow your line of thinking kesso.

[Barghast]

Okaros, on 15 April 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 15 April 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

To me this has been a very confusing game so far but enjoyable. Who's around? Atrahal's case ^ is very interesting, it is well thought out and makes a lot of sense. The only thing i'd say is that if we think he is not HoA then another target may be better for today, when the number of players is decreased then we could look at lynching Alkend but I personally find Korlat the better candidate of coming up HoA.

I am around for a bit. I think that Atrahal's case is very interesting. And since it focuses on someone who could be either a part or either faction or a totally separate party. While I am still against lynching. Their is one for sure revealed HoA player and that is Merrid. To just follow your line of thinking kesso.

What makes Merrid a "for sure revealed HoA player"? I don't understand that as there is nothing blatantly stating Merrid is HoA, which you could only know if you purchased the contract that told you his role/alignment/titles. Did you buy that contract?

[Barghast]

Wow. I forgot how dead the mafia threads get over the weekend.

[Okaros]

Barghast, on 15 April 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

Okaros, on 15 April 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 15 April 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

To me this has been a very confusing game so far but enjoyable. Who's around? Atrahal's case ^ is very interesting, it is well thought out and makes a lot of sense. The only thing i'd say is that if we think he is not HoA then another target may be better for today, when the number of players is decreased then we could look at lynching Alkend but I personally find Korlat the better candidate of coming up HoA.

I am around for a bit. I think that Atrahal's case is very interesting. And since it focuses on someone who could be either a part or either faction or a totally separate party. While I am still against lynching. Their is one for sure revealed HoA player and that is Merrid. To just follow your line of thinking kesso.

What makes Merrid a "for sure revealed HoA player"? I don't understand that as there is nothing blatantly stating Merrid is HoA, which you could only know if you purchased the contract that told you his role/alignment/titles. Did you buy that contract?

No I did not buy his information. But I did read his post

Merrid, on 13 April 2012 - 12:12 AM, said:

Fuck anyone getting money for this info. I am a merchant and i did not take a night action.

If you wsnt to pay for my faction go ahead. Not going to announce that.

Now it could just be me but I don't think that the nepeth, cult or the thieves have merchants. But you know who does have Merchants someone who is a member of the HoA. So really I guess I just put two and two together and came up with 4. Sorry to have implied that I knew his exact role and alignment. I don't. But I do feel pretty secure in reading his post and saying that he is HoA. I mean who wouldn't. I guess only someone who doesn't bother to read up on the thread.

[Barghast]

Okaros, on 16 April 2012 - 01:42 AM, said:

Barghast, on 15 April 2012 - 11:41 PM, said:

Okaros, on 15 April 2012 - 10:26 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on 15 April 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

To me this has been a very confusing game so far but enjoyable. Who's around? Atrahal's case ^ is very interesting, it is well thought out and makes a lot of sense. The only thing i'd say is that if we think he is not HoA then another target may be better for today, when the number of players is decreased then we could look at lynching Alkend but I personally find Korlat the better candidate of coming up HoA.

I am around for a bit. I think that Atrahal's case is very interesting. And since it focuses on someone who could be either a part or either faction or a totally separate party. While I am still against lynching. Their is one for sure revealed HoA player and that is Merrid. To just follow your line of thinking kesso.

What makes Merrid a "for sure revealed HoA player"? I don't understand that as there is nothing blatantly stating Merrid is HoA, which you could only know if you purchased the contract that told you his role/alignment/titles. Did you buy that contract?

No I did not buy his information. But I did read his post

Merrid, on 13 April 2012 - 12:12 AM, said:

Fuck anyone getting money for this info. I am a merchant and i did not take a night action.

If you wsnt to pay for my faction go ahead. Not going to announce that.

Now it could just be me but I don't think that the nepeth, cult or the thieves have merchants. But you know who does have Merchants someone who is a member of the HoA. So really I guess I just put two and two together and came up with 4. Sorry to have implied that I knew his exact role and alignment. I don't. But I do feel pretty secure in reading his post and saying that he is HoA. I mean who wouldn't. I guess only someone who doesn't bother to read up on the thread.

I saw that but never put 2 and 2 together, and never reread it. So yeah, no spark of genius in me.
I blame Brood

[Tiamatha]

I'm just checking in after a long day of traveling. Have reached my busy section of my schedule where I will only have about an hour or two of activity each day for the next couple of days. From reading up there is a lot of talk regading scenes and characters from the list of all characters that Tapper has provided us. I don't know how I missed the fact that there are possible clues in the scenes provdied by Tapper. The conversation regarding some of the characters are confusing me. I tried to find that link someone mentioned that referenced that list of characters but its late and I need to get some sleep. When I get a chance to look at the reference info and reread the scenes this discussion will probably make a whole lot more sense to me.

[Path-Shaper]

Tiamatha, on 16 April 2012 - 07:13 AM, said:

I'm just checking in after a long day of traveling. Have reached my busy section of my schedule where I will only have about an hour or two of activity each day for the next couple of days. From reading up there is a lot of talk regading scenes and characters from the list of all characters that Tapper has provided us. I don't know how I missed the fact that there are possible clues in the scenes provdied by Tapper. The conversation regarding some of the characters are confusing me. I tried to find that link someone mentioned that referenced that list of characters but its late and I need to get some sleep. When I get a chance to look at the reference info and reread the scenes this discussion will probably make a whole lot more sense to me.

The info is in the 79.75 game thread.

On a note: I will start the timer during my lunch break as I am swamped at work and for resolution purposes, it will work much better if I can resolve from home instead of work tomorrow.