[D'riss]

HA! I knew it was Korvalain!

I keep telling you guys that Rashan is full of shit! His whole point was to distract away from his boss. Remember I was one of the biggest proponents for an an Atrahal lynch and he was the first one to come up as a bribed minister. In a game about numbers, it would make absolutely no sense for me to lynch him, even as a sacrificial move. I want to lynch the one person that I am 100% sure of today and that is Rashan.

vote Rashan

[Silanah]

Vote Rashan

[Silanah]

Off to school

[Serc]

well done guys, glad somebody has some sense

[Tennes]

Serc, on 29 March 2012 - 11:56 AM, said:

well done guys, glad somebody has some sense

Meaning?

[Serc]

Tennes, on 29 March 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

Serc, on 29 March 2012 - 11:56 AM, said:

well done guys, glad somebody has some sense

Meaning?

i voted Rashan instead of Korv last night - see facepalm illustration for visual

[Tennes]

Serc, on 29 March 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

Tennes, on 29 March 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

Serc, on 29 March 2012 - 11:56 AM, said:

well done guys, glad somebody has some sense

Meaning?

i voted Rashan instead of Korv last night - see facepalm illustration for visual

The reason I asked is because two people have just voted for Rashan and your anser seemed a little strange.

[Tellan]

Woot, great result
I'm still not certain on a Rashan lynch. I guess it'd be good to get a CF for information, but I really can't see him being a cult leader.

Pros of a Rashan lynch:

We hit scum.

Cons of a Rashan lynch:

His CF doesn't tell us that much.
He almost definitely isn't a recruiter.
He's most likely Ikki who are in a worse position now. They're down their recruiter, and that also gives us a lead on his recruits.

Pros of a D'riss lynch:

We get a CF that we don't 99% know already, so more information.

Cons of a D'riss lynch:

We're essentially following Rashan and little else. With the Korv CF, we know the reveal was almost definitely rubbish. So this feels like we may as well be following a name Rashan has randomly drawn from a hat.

Don't really think either lynch is much good.

As a side note, it's a bit odd that Rashan chose D'riss over someone like Okaros (who had already been getting heat as a likely Ouchi recruiter).

[Rashan]

Damn.

Oh well. D'riss really is the Ouchi recruiter. I want town to win, out of the two remaining factions. So lynch him. You can lynch me tomorrow if he comes up anything but Ouchi recruiter. Think about it. I'm clearly Ikko Ikki.

[Rashan]

At this point D'riss could be one away from victory. Don't fucking lynch me today. It's clear I'm telling the truth, and I definitely would rather want town to win than another cult.

Whatever, good luck Silly, you're the only town I'm sure of.

[Omtose]

The only other person I know to be beside my self is voting rashan, so that is were my vote is going.
Vote rashan

[Tennes]

Tellan, on 29 March 2012 - 12:41 PM, said:

Woot, great result
I'm still not certain on a Rashan lynch. I guess it'd be good to get a CF for information, but I really can't see him being a cult leader.

Pros of a Rashan lynch:

We hit scum.

Cons of a Rashan lynch:

His CF doesn't tell us that much.
He almost definitely isn't a recruiter.
He's most likely Ikki who are in a worse position now. They're down their recruiter, and that also gives us a lead on his recruits.

Pros of a D'riss lynch:

We get a CF that we don't 99% know already, so more information.

Cons of a D'riss lynch:

We're essentially following Rashan and little else. With the Korv CF, we know the reveal was almost definitely rubbish. So this feels like we may as well be following a name Rashan has randomly drawn from a hat.

Don't really think either lynch is much good.

As a side note, it's a bit odd that Rashan chose D'riss over someone like Okaros (who had already been getting heat as a likely Ouchi recruiter).

Korvalian recruited Rashan, and if he recruited Rashan who was already recruited by D'riss then that explains why Rashan knows what he knows. I'm good for either one to be honest. Unless there is a curve ball somewhere?

[Tennes]

Omtose, on 29 March 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

The only other person I know to be beside my self is voting rashan, so that is were my vote is going.
Vote rashan

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 9.

27 hours and 44 minutes left in the day.

11 players are left alive:
Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Rashan, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes

1 vote D'riss: Mockra
4 votes Rashan: Tennes, D'riss, Silanah, Omtose

Players not voting: Barghast, Gamelon, Okaros, Rashan, Serc, Tellan

[Tennes]

Remove Vote

I am thinking that D'riss may be the better option here. Who is voting for Rashan so far...

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 9.

27 hours and 42 minutes left in the day.

11 players are left alive:
Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Rashan, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes

1 vote D'riss: Mockra
3 votes Rashan: D'riss, Silanah, Omtose

Players not voting: Barghast, Gamelon, Okaros, Rashan, Serc, Tellan, Tennes

[Tellan]

Rashan, Omtose, Tellan, Mockra, Serc, D'riss, Gamelon, Okaros, Silanah

That's the Atrahal lynch.


D'riss votes when both Omtose and Atrahal have five votes. At that point, momentum looked like definitely swinging towards Atrahal though.


I think calling himself a strong proponent of the lynch is perhaps an exaggeration. However, he can't be said to have been friendly with Atrahal. Looking back at some Atrahal/D'riss/Rashan relations.

D, on 21 March 2012 - 09:40 PM, said:

Ok, I'm going mobile so can't quote cases at the moment very well.

Remove vote

I summon thee I summon thee I summon thee

vote Tellan

It seems like you've pinged the scumometer a few times for various folks. I'd like to hear your insights before we finish out voting.

I'll happily change to Atrahal or one of the other cases if they look better.

D, on 21 March 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

Rashan, on 21 March 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

Ignore it? Never, just the opposite in fact. Use it to make a connection back to their cult leader. As I said at the beginning of this day, the situation hasn't really changed from day 1 - we're still looking for cult leaders. Lynching recruits would be nice, yes, but it's still not the aim of the game. The tide won't be stemmed for any faction until the recruiter is taken out.

But yes, lynching any cult is better than lynching no cult. Duh.

Well looking at the options today, maybe we should just go for D'riss, then try to make connections?

And when I cf inno because I'm NOT scum, what is that going to get you? You'll either decide that all recruits cf inno, or realize 'oh shit, we lynched another townie!' BRILLIANT!

Rashan, on 21 March 2012 - 08:57 PM, said:

Blow me. I have no idea what to do today. Atrahal seems scummy, I like you, Barghast, which means you're probably scum. D'riss is scummy. And then half the other players run together in my mind.

D, on 21 March 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

Actually I'm not opposed to an Atrahal lynch, he's a very manipulative bastard and I can't believe that he's inno. Tennes doesn't sit right with me, because I feel like he symped me. Tellan because it looked pretty obvious of symping you. Maybe Mockra or Gamelon.

D, on 21 March 2012 - 09:11 PM, said:

Ruse, on 21 March 2012 - 09:01 PM, said:

I could also go for Tellan or Tennes.
Its actually getting to the point where almost anyone will do really.
you all look scummy.

D'riss and Tennes are my fav's because they are using shitty strawmannish type arguments and/or crappy logic to build cases.

WTF?! Where is this BRILLIANT case against me? Most of what I've heard is that I 'seem' scummy. Most of the cases on here are total crap! I don't like Atrahal. FINE. He's a hard one to love. But anything else I've pointed out has been based on Sorrit getting vigd, Korvalain coming out of nowhere for a hindsight review, and then Rashan changing the lynch train. This is total bullshit!

The rashan quote is in there because it is interesting. He calls D'riss scummy. This is the day before he claims D'riss recruits him. He even votes D'riss that day.

Going through his posts from after that night.

D, on 22 March 2012 - 01:45 PM, said:

Hey all, I'm stuck in meetings all day, so won't be able to post much. I'll be reviewing his connections as well. My first thought would have been Rashan, but he seemed to really want that lynch.

Rashan, on 22 March 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

People keep saying we were buddying up because we talk to eachother. We were just the two highest posters. As I said, he was a slippery bastard, and I was right. So suck it.

Being constructive is impossible from my phone. As mentioned earlier, I will reread later. I have a recording session tonight, so I might not have as much free time as yesterday but I should still have a few hours.

D, on 23 March 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

Rashan, on 23 March 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

I don't want to listen to anyone.

Vote Gamelon

Who is that guy, anyway?

LOL I've been asking myself the same thing!

The timing of the reveal does make it seem just designed to direct away from Korv. Two things make me hesitant to dismiss it completely though. Firstly D'riss completely drops off Rashans suspicions after that night. Could just be because with the CF there was more going on. Secondly, I'm not sure why he'd pick D'riss - if he just wanted to have people believe and follow him, why not somebody who'd got more heat as a potential Ouchi recruiter?

[Tellan]

Also, Rashan was L-2 with 27 hours for a second there. We've plenty of time, don't see much need for a speed lynch.

[Tennes]

I keep toying with the idea that Rashan is not lying and that we should test his reveal by lynching D'riss but then I think to myself that Rashan is buying more time trying to build his numbers. His reveal yesterday could have gotten him lynched though when no one was looking his way.

Vote D'riss

We need to discuss this more.

[Tennes]

Tellan, on 29 March 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

Also, Rashan was L-2 with 27 hours for a second there. We've plenty of time, don't see much need for a speed lynch.

Is why I removed.

Looking over your case it makes me think D'riss would be the better lynch.