[Tennes]

Wow, what a past few hours on thread. Very interesting. I feel we need to lynch one of either D'riss, Korvalian and Serc today. I was thinking along the lines of who was connected to Kalse. Serc is lowest on the list for admitting to the vig. D'riss is second lowest on the list because Rashan just outed him. So Korvalian has to be the one lynched today. I believe Rashan to be recruited so NOT a recruiter (unless he just wanted one more day (which I doubt because he was not under the radar for today)). Lynch Korvalian who I believe to be the recruiter. Then we can look into D'riss and Rashan and what we think

[Tennes]

Vote Korvalian

[Tennes]

Although I am tempted to vote Rashan just to find out what cult he is in and why he revealed.

[Path-Shaper]

It is Day 8.


26 hours and 41 minutes left in the day.

12 players are left alive:
Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Rashan, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes


7 votes to lynch, 7 to go to night.

1 vote D'riss: Rashan
1 vote Rashan: Mockra
3 votes Korvalain: D'riss, Okaros, Gamelon

Players not voting: Barghast, Korvalain, Omtose, Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes

[Okaros]

Tennes, on 28 March 2012 - 07:18 AM, said:

Although I am tempted to vote Rashan just to find out what cult he is in and why he revealed.

Indeed, I get the feeling this would make life a lot easier for town Remove the distraction!

I get the feeling we won't be hearing much constructive from Serc. It looks like it might be Korvalain tonight, unless he stuns us with some fantastic insight and logic, so I don't think today will last ver long either, judging from the past few days. And if it is difficult to get a lynch, we will know that we are on the right track. This is a good situation for us to be in.Rasan's reveal has given us a lot to think about.

[Gamelon]

Okaros, on 28 March 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

Tennes, on 28 March 2012 - 07:18 AM, said:

Although I am tempted to vote Rashan just to find out what cult he is in and why he revealed.

Indeed, I get the feeling this would make life a lot easier for town Remove the distraction!

I get the feeling we won't be hearing much constructive from Serc. It looks like it might be Korvalain tonight, unless he stuns us with some fantastic insight and logic, so I don't think today will last ver long either, judging from the past few days. And if it is difficult to get a lynch, we will know that we are on the right track. This is a good situation for us to be in.Rasan's reveal has given us a lot to think about.

I think it will be telling to see who drags their feet over this lynch.

Also, lol sarcasm

[Tennes]

Yeah but I don't see Rashan turning out to be a recruiter so why wait another night for Korvalian or D'riss (if we are to believe Rashan) to recruit. I say we go with Korvalian today, lynch Rashan tomorrow to find out if he was what he says and then go from there. I don't think Rashan would be able to out his leader like that, it feels like a modkillable offence, so I can only assume that D'riss was a threat to Rashan in some way. WIFOM territory I know so i'll leave it at that.

[Mockra]

Well I still think the better play is to lynch Rashan first just to prove his reveal and take the threat of Ikko Ikki down and then lynch D'riss. However I do think Korvalain is by far and away the best candidate to be the other recruiter. He's been all over Okaros for being the Ouchi recruiter when it looks like its D'riss. Kalse 'protected' him a couple times as well if I recall, and he completely ignored the whole Kalse slip up after it happened for reasons I'm still not sure on, and there has been a case on Korvalain which was a little convincing, but I guess added all up, it does make sense so I'd be willing to switch my vote to him

[Okaros]

Tennes, on 28 March 2012 - 09:06 AM, said:

Yeah but I don't see Rashan turning out to be a recruiter so why wait another night for Korvalian or D'riss (if we are to believe Rashan) to recruit. I say we go with Korvalian today, lynch Rashan tomorrow to find out if he was what he says and then go from there. I don't think Rashan would be able to out his leader like that, it feels like a modkillable offence, so I can only assume that D'riss was a threat to Rashan in some way. WIFOM territory I know so i'll leave it at that.

There is so much freaking WIFOM in this, were going to be swimming in it soon. I do believe we need to lynch Korvalain today, but I think we need to wait for the results of the lynch before deciding where we look at next. I see Rashan, D'riss and Serc as suspects at the moment, but that is always subject to change.

[Tennes]

I still think Rashan is throwing in the towel for his recruiter and fellow recruits. He wants us to lynch him today which makes me feel wary of whoever he is protecting. If he dies and Korvalian recruits where does that leave us? If it is a ploy to even up the numbers lynched for cult then why throw in this early? I'm not thinking about it further my head will explode. Korv or Rashan i'm good with either although i'd prefer Korv.

[Mockra]

Tennes, on 28 March 2012 - 10:11 AM, said:

I still think Rashan is throwing in the towel for his recruiter and fellow recruits. He wants us to lynch him today which makes me feel wary of whoever he is protecting. If he dies and Korvalian recruits where does that leave us? If it is a ploy to even up the numbers lynched for cult then why throw in this early? I'm not thinking about it further my head will explode. Korv or Rashan i'm good with either although i'd prefer Korv.

Well I need to get going and won't be back, but yeah I agree with this, did seem a desperation play for Rashan or why reveal at all. Maybe it is best to go for who we think the recruiter is.

Remove Vote
Vote Korvalain

[Omtose]

I see a lot of information in the last few hours. My vote today was going to be on Korvalain. Just for his outburst.. I thinking he is playing way too loud to the recruiter. But after Rashans stunt and the way the voting has swung there is no way I will be voting that way. Yes I am draging my feet. I think the majority of you have just revealed which cult you are in. Paranoid? yes, yes I am. I think Tennes and Tellan are more than likely going to be the recruiters at this point. So fucking under the radar.

vote Rashan

[Tennes]

Omtose, on 28 March 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

I see a lot of information in the last few hours. My vote today was going to be on Korvalain. Just for his outburst.. I thinking he is playing way too loud to the recruiter. But after Rashans stunt and the way the voting has swung there is no way I will be voting that way. Yes I am draging my feet. I think the majority of you have just revealed which cult you are in. Paranoid? yes, yes I am. I think Tennes and Tellan are more than likely going to be the recruiters at this point. So fucking under the radar.

vote Rashan

Wait there! Are you also admitting to be recruited? I am not in a cult yet. If everyone was recruited then how would Silanah be able to win the game? I had you pegged as town which is why I haven't gone after you for scumminess but this post makes me believe you've been recruited by one of the cults. So that is Rashan AND Omtose who have been recruited. You make a good point about tellan though, I forgot he was even playing.

[Okaros]

Omtose, on 28 March 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

I see a lot of information in the last few hours. My vote today was going to be on Korvalain. Just for his outburst.. I thinking he is playing way too loud to the recruiter. But after Rashans stunt and the way the voting has swung there is no way I will be voting that way. Yes I am draging my feet. I think the majority of you have just revealed which cult you are in. Paranoid? yes, yes I am. I think Tennes and Tellan are more than likely going to be the recruiters at this point. So f*cking under the radar.

vote Rashan

Eh. As many people have pointed out, people are going to play how they play, doesn't matter what the role is. I feel it is pretty clear that Rashan is deflecting from Korvalain, which is why my vote is there.

Just out of interest, if you think Tellan and Tennes are recruiters why are you not voting one of them?

[Silanah]

Just want to drop a tidbit on serc:
His vig reveal has no relation to whether he is cult or not.

[Tennes]

Silanah, on 28 March 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

Just want to drop a tidbit on serc:
His vig reveal has no relation to whether he is cult or not.

Meaning he could be a recruiter? Or that he could be recruited?

[D'riss]

Mockra, on 28 March 2012 - 05:06 AM, said:

D, on 28 March 2012 - 02:35 AM, said:

I'm going to bed. I would rather go for the leader, and I think I've decided it is more likely Korvalain.

remove vote

vote Korvalain

So what your saying D'riss is rather than lynch Rashan who is lying about you being the Ouchi recruiter, your lynching Korvalain for being the leader of the Ouchi or the Ikko ikki?

Surely if you were inno you'd be after Rashan for lying and trying to get you lynched?

@Barghast - Rashan said it was after the Atrahal lynch, so I presume that night? If I recall Rashan was on the Atrahal train early, but then jumped off the Ruse train late with D'riss

Yes Rashan is lying, but he is doing so to get a reaction. HE wasn't being threatened personally, so I think he felt his recruiter was in danger. I'll vote that way if we have to, but I would feel better about getting his boss.

Also note, I was one of the earlier votes on the Atrahlal lynch. If I was the Ouchi recruiter, shouldn't I have preferred to vote the other way? OR have held off and just hammered at the end when I saw there was no hope for 'my' recruit?

[D'riss]

Okaros, on 28 March 2012 - 05:43 AM, said:

Wow, just... wow.

Gamelon, on 28 March 2012 - 01:01 AM, said:

Bombshell is the right word...

Why haven't you voted D'riss yourself?

Also, the only reason I can think you'd do this is because your leader is under scrutiny, and given the past day, I'm still going to look at Okaros and Korvalain, because Okaros has been linked to dkt, and Korvalain to Kalse.
F**k it, it could be both of them. S**t.

I think your reasoning is a little wonky here. What with Kalse's cf, i would say that Rashan is definitely trying to distract from someone connected with Kalse. I was apparently connected to dkt, who was of a different faction to what Rashan is claiming to be, and if Rashan is trying to deflect from me he has done a terrible job of it, I have been under fire since dks lynch and a reveal right now, when the suspicion is moving towards the second cult, would be silly.

In my mind the one most connected to Kalse is Korvalain, they have been acting very pally the last few days, and there was something strange going on with their voting. On day one Korvalain followed Kalse on Karosis' lynch. Day two Korv followed Kalse on Liosan's train. Day 5 Korv voted Olar Ethil as soon as Kalse did. On day 6 Korv followed Kalse on voting Ruse and on day 7 Korv and Kalse were the only two voting on myself. I'm willing to let the first two days go, but this kind of vote following is mighty suspicious. Add this to Korvalain's reaction to the lynch, and there is a clear connection here.

Rashan's reveal was right after my post saying that I had a case on Korvalain. I think it is rather clear that Rashan is trying to deflect from Korvalain.

Vote Korvalain.

Also strange is D'riss' defence. It feels very much like a desperate attempt to discredit Rashan, rather than to actually answer the accusations.

The other one I am watching out for is Serc. He has posted probably one post with content per day, and the rest is either saying he has returned and is reading up to provide thoughts that he then never provides, or useless comments on current cases. When i called him on it he got defensive and refused to answer me. He never answered satisfactorally why he chose to vig Sorrit, except that he believed Sorrit was a cult leader, but there was no justification on thread for this belief and Sorrit had said basically nothing. Kalse was quite certain he was innocent, but the justification that he had confessed to the vig was shoddy. Also, Kalse stated that he was protecting Sorrit from being recruited, but in light of Kalse coming up scum I'm questioning this statement a lot. It is more than possible that Kalse was lying about Serc to make us think that he was CI and follow him more than others.

This post kept getting interrupted by work meetings and callers so I'm sorry if it's a bit rambly and incoherent!

Still working through posts...

My defence? What more is there to say? Rashan's post was total bullshit to mislead you guys today. The only defence I have is that I voted for Atrahal and was quite happy to see him gone, AND I've voted off scum on both teams.

He is trying to distract attention away from someone, and I'm betting that person is Korvalain. I also think he may be trying to inject the idea into our thoughts of people being able to be recruited from one team to the other. We can't even prove whether or not that is true when we lynch him. He'll cf as one or the other, and whichever way that goes, we'll start making assumptions.

[D'riss]

Silanah, on 28 March 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

Just want to drop a tidbit on serc:
His vig reveal has no relation to whether he is cult or not.

Good point... and Kalse was trying to protect him...

[Omtose]

Tennes, on 28 March 2012 - 11:01 AM, said:

Omtose, on 28 March 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

I see a lot of information in the last few hours. My vote today was going to be on Korvalain. Just for his outburst.. I thinking he is playing way too loud to the recruiter. But after Rashans stunt and the way the voting has swung there is no way I will be voting that way. Yes I am draging my feet. I think the majority of you have just revealed which cult you are in. Paranoid? yes, yes I am. I think Tennes and Tellan are more than likely going to be the recruiters at this point. So fucking under the radar.

vote Rashan

Wait there! Are you also admitting to be recruited? I am not in a cult yet. If everyone was recruited then how would Silanah be able to win the game? I had you pegged as town which is why I haven't gone after you for scumminess but this post makes me believe you've been recruited by one of the cults. So that is Rashan AND Omtose who have been recruited. You make a good point about tellan though, I forgot he was even playing.

That isn't even close to what I said. I was saying that the swing looks like ichhi cult members to me. At this point I think I am the last townie left, a side from. Sil.