Okay doing my read up of the thread finally. I know I have a boat load of pages to still read so if something has been covered after already well then stuff it. SInce I'm still set that we have a good suspect list and the fact that Olar came back town I'm trying to think who we should target next.
Olar Ethil, on 23 March 2012 - 12:10 AM, said:
I'm pretty much dead in the water now at any rate, no one is actually going to bother listening to me for the rest of the game since they think i'm linked to Atrahal in some way, my play style will do nothing to help this.
So, some thoughts.
I think it has been noted that Atrahal made a very friendly post towards Kalse and normally i'd think a move like that would be too bold but seeing it was Khell and considering how boldly he was playing by being so vocal and getting into scraps then i'd not completely dismiss this.
He also made a comment here:
Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:
Rashan, on 21 March 2012 - 04:23 PM, said:
Atrahal is an androgynous shit grinner
The following comment applies to Tennes also.
Critical Reasoning 101: Opinion, then evidence for opinion. "Atrahal is an androgynous shit grinner/I am voting Atrahal because of his responses...because/which were and this shows....[insert evidence here].
Bad play in Mafia just to state an opinion without backing it up
And Serc comes forward as the vig. I
believe him. It might be suspected that if Serc had been recruited, he may have vigged Sorrit because Sorrit was putting pressure on his master? However, personally I don't think so, as then why would Serc reveal and bring attention to such a thing?
I think that Serc is most likely inno but re-reading this and knowing he was a recruit made me pause to consider if there was something he knew that maybe made him muse on the possibility of cult having some kind of vig. Maybe he was just hoping this was the case and seeing if Serc would give him some kind of signal in return. Worth pointing out at least.
I honestly don't have a great read on the majority of players in this game, I still think though that rashan could be some kind of scum or recruit, but it could just be dodgy gut because i've felt that way towards him since almost the start. Omtose, well, I still think there is a possibility there, maybe if Okaros or Ruse are cult leaders they thought they were onto an opposing cult member there.
Barghast I find myself agreeing with often and liking the tone of his posts, way back on day two I thought from his low poster list with nothing else he could be scum but he contributes a lot and generally seems to make good points.
Sil has disliked Tellan for a while now and yesterday the vote hovered once more around him but didn't quite happen, it doesn't seem to ever come to much. I get why, the cases seem weak against him often and one of his most significant things was day 1 and seemingly sympish behviour or fake symping. Still it is good to remember that while we now have a lead to follow there are still other scum teams out there and so just because someone has voted Atrahal does not automatically mean they couldn't be a recruiter or recruit.
I really should be asleep.
I'll try and have a look in the morning before I go out but for now it seems between Ruse, Okaros and Kalse in my mind. Ruse has the most votes on him but I can see possible distancing from Okaros which would seem to fit better with a recruiter role so I will:
Vote Okaros
Edit - spacing
Olar voted Okaros and as that fits within my current theory of who is a recuirter It has my attention. Then I saw a couple of posts by Okaros after this case by Olar. Admits to lurking and when he sees his name bandied back and forth he decides it's time to finally post and starts to point fingers at Barghast another player on my suspect list.
Okaros, on 23 March 2012 - 12:50 AM, said:
Hey everyone, sorry I haven't been around much today, I'm super busy trying to et stuff organised for a trip. Been keeping up with what is going on but I only have about an hour to post before I have to get off my ass and start packing.
In terms of the lynch, it's great we finally got a cult. I'll admit I wasn't sure about the Atrahal lynch, especially with the way my train on Omtose started and then abruptly stopped, but I was wrong.
I didin't, and still don't like, Omtose's tantrum when it looked like he was in danger of getting lynched. And I think Serc's behaviour has been off as well. Not enough to make a case out of it (especially when it looks like we already have a few solid cases), but enough to make me watch them.
This psot by Barghast caught my eye:
Barghast, on 22 March 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:
Barghast, on 22 March 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:
Ruse, on 22 March 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:
A scum CF?
excellent!!
I never pegged atrahal as scum...he was receiving way to much attention from all over to have been recruited surely?
this post stinks.
recruiting a top poster is a very good cult move--for the very obvious reason that they'll stir up all kinds of shit, and their eventual lynch will leave a WIFOM storm.
i'm not buying the "super wide-eyed innocent" act you've got going here
vote Ruse
you are trying too hard.
just to make sure you're reading selectively, Korvy
Ruse is expressing disbelief that a cult would target Atrahal as he was pointing a lot of fingers, stepping on a lot of toes and generally getting attacked for it. With hindsight, it was a good tactic, Atrahal could fairly well run the thread and because of his aggressive style of play he would look less cultish. I don't think Ruse's reaction was unreasonable, and I think Barghast's attack of this post is amking more out of it than is necessary. There is plenty that Ruse has said that is suspicious, why pick out this particular post?
Before I discuss the cases out at the moment I'm going to go back and read them again. Looks like some good thinking though.
Then he still thinks that the Tellan case still has merit? I have no idea why he is focusing on Tellan when we have much better connections to be made from the new cases presented to everyone. I honestly haven't seen what everyone is seeing in regards to Tellan and he may be right and Tellan might be a recruiter but these posts by Okaros stink of trying to direct attention away from him.
Okaros, on 23 March 2012 - 01:43 AM, said:
Having re-read, I really don't like Ruse's reactions to the prodding. It just seems unjustified, with this much time left in the day, to be screaming "Fuck you all" and flouncing off. This game has shown some massive voting swings at the end of the day, and Ruse would have been better served by hanging around to discuss things further. The same goes for Olar Ethil, but I get the feeling from OE that the resignation to his case may be an attempt to make people change their minds about him, he is playing the 'helpful townie' role.
I think Tellan's case has some serious merit, and it also seems to have covered all the bases, there is really nothing at this stage that I can add.
PS, an update would be nice if you have a moment.EDIT: cross post with the update...
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