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Warring States Interlude One: Imperial Influences Ten years later...

#1621 User is offline   Tennes 

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:44 PM

View PostBarghast, on 23 March 2012 - 01:29 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 23 March 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 23 March 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

oh, btw

vote Ruse
can't say my reasonong changed any.







people keep posting that. I keep gaetting the urge to punch the screen to not see that..... no, I won't call it a "face". "snout" seems more appropriate.
anyhow, this seems like a proper followu to yestrday's "I'm taking my toys and going home" rant.

and if you are so freaking terrified of Tennes making a case on you based off of some day 1 shit, why not vote him? Fuck, i'd vote him he's been making cases and shit, but that doesn't make him any less shifty from day 4.


I know your a better player than this. You are either recruited or recruiter. I believe your Kalse' recruit. You've turned from a smart player to a frustratingly dumb one. My case is gold I don't care what you think.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:50 PM

?

dude, i'm not saying Ruse is corrrect in any way shape or form.

but his supposed reason for ridiculous over-distancing, and the explosion that followed is because YOU keep pestering him about a case built on some stuff he did on Day ONE.

If you don't see the absurdity of that reaction and reasoning, I can't help you.


And I don't recall ever saying that I was against a Kalse lynch, if we need one. if I did, quotes, plz.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:53 PM

View PostBarghast, on 23 March 2012 - 01:29 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 23 March 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 23 March 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

oh, btw

vote Ruse
can't say my reasonong changed any.







people keep posting that. I keep gaetting the urge to punch the screen to not see that..... no, I won't call it a "face". "snout" seems more appropriate.
anyhow, this seems like a proper followu to yestrday's "I'm taking my toys and going home" rant.

and if you are so freaking terrified of Tennes making a case on you based off of some day 1 shit, why not vote him? Fuck, i'd vote him he's been making cases and shit, but that doesn't make him any less shifty from day 4.




terrified?...no not terrified...

try frustrated...try irritated.



but watever... i dont care anymore.
You guys have all got tons of cronies by now, im not going to bother arguing when people obviously already have backup and wont listen to reason because they are recruited.

go try and be patronizing somewhere else.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:56 PM

That's a shitty attitude, Ruse. And I'm looking at the Kalse case, with the quotes in my post so give me a few minutes and I'll post it here.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:58 PM

View PostBarghast, on 23 March 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:

?

dude, i'm not saying Ruse is corrrect in any way shape or form.

but his supposed reason for ridiculous over-distancing, and the explosion that followed is because YOU keep pestering him about a case built on some stuff he did on Day ONE.

If you don't see the absurdity of that reaction and reasoning, I can't help you.


And I don't recall ever saying that I was against a Kalse lynch, if we need one. if I did, quotes, plz.



So your voting for Ruse over an over reaction. Maybe he is pissed off at being called out be me all the time. How does that relate to him being a cult leader? Can you relate him to Atrahal? We have a shit load of information and your basing a case off an over reaction. I'd prefer you to pick holes at my case. Same with Kalse. Not one person followed my case yesterday. I didn't get to fully flesh it out until the end of the day but it has merit. I cannot see Kalse not turning out to be a cult leader and the resistance to that is telling in itself.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 01:59 PM

View PostRashan, on 23 March 2012 - 01:56 PM, said:

That's a shitty attitude, Ruse. And I'm looking at the Kalse case, with the quotes in my post so give me a few minutes and I'll post it here.




realistic attitude...might be shitty...but still realistic.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:05 PM

View PostRuse, on 23 March 2012 - 01:53 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 23 March 2012 - 01:29 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 23 March 2012 - 12:54 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 23 March 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

oh, btw

vote Ruse
can't say my reasonong changed any.







people keep posting that. I keep gaetting the urge to punch the screen to not see that..... no, I won't call it a "face". "snout" seems more appropriate.
anyhow, this seems like a proper followu to yestrday's "I'm taking my toys and going home" rant.

and if you are so freaking terrified of Tennes making a case on you based off of some day 1 shit, why not vote him? Fuck, i'd vote him he's been making cases and shit, but that doesn't make him any less shifty from day 4.




terrified?...no not terrified...

try frustrated...try irritated.



but watever... i dont care anymore.
You guys have all got tons of cronies by now, im not going to bother arguing when people obviously already have backup and wont listen to reason because they are recruited.

go try and be patronizing somewhere else.


Hey I haven't gone after you, i've changed my tune on you. After a full re read and your recent play I think you cannot possibly be a recruiter. Day 4? was the last time I pegged you as buddying up with Atrahal but I didn't even vote for you yesterday. When it came down to my vote it was 5 4 in favour of Olar, I could have voted for you.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:09 PM

its just your persistence with the day one peotry shit that got to me.
And then you linking atrahal with me yesterday because he fake revealed "poetry" was the straw that broke the camels back.

trust me, when you get to spoiler heaven you will understand why i got so frustrated.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:12 PM

and obviously barghast with his mafia paterfamilias bullshit put me into overdrive.

I dont like how he is backpedaling now about his the recruitment being every night when he got so feisty about it yesterday.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:13 PM

View PostRuse, on 23 March 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:

its just your persistence with the day one peotry shit that got to me.
And then you linking atrahal with me yesterday because he fake revealed "poetry" was the straw that broke the camels back.

trust me, when you get to spoiler heaven you will understand why i got so frustrated.


Read through my case. There are too many things pointing to Kalse. If i'm wrong i'll hold my hand up but WCS scenario is that this is D day. At least one of the recruiters could have enough followers to get the lynch today and win if they have recruited every night. Say Kalse recruited every night that is 5 recruits minus Atrahal. WCS.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:15 PM

View PostTennes, on 23 March 2012 - 11:26 AM, said:

Rashan, finish your lie in, your sleep. Come back and read over my case. If your recruited I understand that you might ignore it but i'm convinced here. Maybe Barghast does look fishy but so does Kalse.


That's a back handed way to get me to look more closely, but I guess it's working because here I go.

View PostTennes, on 22 March 2012 - 04:27 PM, said:



I've got quite a lot of stuff to write and i'm unsure if i'll get it all done with in the next few hours. So I give you this post. Atrahal is defending his arse off. Mockra has votes. Kalse removes from Mockra which looks to have stalled and tries to provide a new option in Gamelon. Now Atrahal is agreeable with Kalse, not for the first time he says. Asks him to post more. (Looking for direction from his master?)

Kalse is his master. I have a shit load of notes that point to this. Maybe. No interaction since day one. All his lists and accusations exclude Kalse. Look at posts #1021, #1031, #815 (kalse saying rashan isn't scummy), #931 another list, #936 another one. Not one mentioning Kalse.



Vote Kalse



#1021

View PostAtrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

Sorry all, I slept right through the lynch (was exhausted!) and then had work all day up till now. First off, I got to say, before we got their alts, I would have pegged Sorrit as D'rek and Liosan as Venge, not the other way round :w00t:

I think the kill is likelier to come from a town member than a cultist - but either way, it was someone hoping to have found a cult leader. It is possible that there are recruits a-plenty at this stage, though I am hesitant to speculate on the number of recruiters or the recruiting mechanics. But to me whether the position of some players has altered doesn't actually change anything at all right now. Cult leaders continue to be the target.


View PostRashan, on 20 March 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on 20 March 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

A big WTF to D'rek. His distraction may have cost us the game. I don't know what to do now.


You're dumb. You lynched someone for RPing, then get sad when, surprise, she comes up inno.




I agree. Omtose's reaction strikes me as over the top and like someone scrambling to look townie.


View PostRashan, on 20 March 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

I'd be willing to vote Mockra.



And where were these sorts of posts when I was saying Mockra was scummy on day 2?!?!?!


I don't see the relevancy of this quote, besides not mentioning Kalse.

#1031

View PostAtrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:

Yeah, as I stated previously, I'm willing to lynch any of the middle-order posters. Probably Mockra and Omtose first and foremost as they're the ones who've pinged my radar on previous days, but, seriously, any of the others (Gamelon, Ruse, Serc, Korvalain, Tennes) could equally be a good bet for a cult leader.

Huh, that's about half the players there. Well, narrowing it down, I've seen some posts I agree with from Korv and Tennes. I can't remember a thing Gamelon or Serc have said. Ruse I've mistrusted since the Emurlahn lynch - I personally felt if anyone looked suspicious after that lynch it was him.


As for whether we know if we've lynched a recruit...I thought PS said that he will make it clear? And in the Liosan lynch, the scene made it clear that they were no recruit.


This one is interesting in that he includes Serc, who has just 2 more posts than Kalse (at this point, I don't know how many at the time of the post).

#815

View PostKalse, on 16 March 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

Dammit!! I guess I gorgot to switch the time setting on this account. I'm guessing that Venge or obdi had this account before me. Thought we had more time. At least you got a lynch...though the way that you went about getting there was...suspect. With the way that the train was so severely swung so quickly...I think you'd be hard pressed to argue that there weren't at least a couple of cult members on that train who followed their master (s) I think looking from the early middle --> back of that train should prove fruitful.

Even though Rashan was wrong, he still doesnt strike me as scummy, just someone who believed in his analysis. Some of the other votes though...


And seriously, we now have another day to have to wade through Liosans stupid posts. awesome.


So this one is relevant only in that you see Atrahal and I as connected, and Kalse doesn't see me as scummy. I think at the time this was the general opinion. The first several posters post-lynch didn't think my insistence on the lynch was scummy, then the people who came on later lambasted me.

Do you still think we're connected? I seem to recall you admitting that it was unlikely, seeing as I've been hounding him for a couple days.

#931

View PostAtrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Ahem, to be serious for just one post:

I'm going to be pointing a few fingers here, but the ones I like the look of the least on a purely instinctual level are the 5 or so below Silanah in the posting stakes. That's where I'd bet scum would hide. But going on what happened the last day rather than just gut, I'm voting Liosan. Both Serc and Tellan I see merit in voting for, though, the former more than the latter - at least until Tellan actually comes back from his extended absence.


Edit: The 5 at the moment being Gamelon, D'riss, Omtose, Karosis, Tennes.


Goddam there's a lot of people left. For example, I completely forgot there was a Korvalain in this game until he started posting again earlier today.


Another list without Kalse, so that's relevent. No idea if the exclusion was natural or strange.

#936

View PostD, on 20 March 2012 - 01:23 AM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:

View PostAtrahal, on 20 March 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Edit: The 5 at the moment being Gamelon, D'riss, Omtose, Karosis, Tennes.




Just remembered Karosis is dead ;) Which is a reflection on both how tired I am after travelling, and on how much other people need to start posting.



I think I'm higher than the low posters Aty ol boy. What about Barghast, Mockra and Korvalain?

Also I'm curious why YOU don't think Rashan is at all scummy. Not saying he is mind you, but I'd like to hear it in your own words.


Another moment where he doesn't include Kalse. I see merit in this, but it does seem obvious, don't you think? I'm going to look back through and see if he didn't include anyone else in these posts. But I'm going to post this first, since people want to look at the relevant quotes.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:15 PM

View PostTennes, on 23 March 2012 - 02:13 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on 23 March 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:

its just your persistence with the day one peotry shit that got to me.
And then you linking atrahal with me yesterday because he fake revealed "poetry" was the straw that broke the camels back.

trust me, when you get to spoiler heaven you will understand why i got so frustrated.


Read through my case. There are too many things pointing to Kalse. If i'm wrong i'll hold my hand up but WCS scenario is that this is D day. At least one of the recruiters could have enough followers to get the lynch today and win if they have recruited every night. Say Kalse recruited every night that is 5 recruits minus Atrahal. WCS.



one cult needs majority to win no?

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:20 PM

View PostTennes, on 23 March 2012 - 01:58 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 23 March 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:

?

dude, i'm not saying Ruse is corrrect in any way shape or form.

but his supposed reason for ridiculous over-distancing, and the explosion that followed is because YOU keep pestering him about a case built on some stuff he did on Day ONE.

If you don't see the absurdity of that reaction and reasoning, I can't help you.


And I don't recall ever saying that I was against a Kalse lynch, if we need one. if I did, quotes, plz.



So your voting for Ruse over an over reaction. Maybe he is pissed off at being called out be me all the time. How does that relate to him being a cult leader? Can you relate him to Atrahal? We have a shit load of information and your basing a case off an over reaction. I'd prefer you to pick holes at my case. Same with Kalse. Not one person followed my case yesterday. I didn't get to fully flesh it out until the end of the day but it has merit. I cannot see Kalse not turning out to be a cult leader and the resistance to that is telling in itself.

way to shift focus. I voted 1use based on his posts following atrahal's CF. Cant qoute cuz im in class.
First off, right after seeing the CF, he goes all naive saying "atrakhell was such a vocal player, why would anyone recruit him?", which to me just rang false.

On top of that, he then proceeded to try vehemently to set himself aside from atrahal, allegdly beduse he didnt want yo to keep making "ppoetry links". When i prodded hoim over it, he exploded.
It all stinks of desperation to stay alive, which makes me think ive hit cult.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:20 PM

Barghast. Kalse, and Okaros are not mentioned there, either.

I would rather vote Kalse, as of right now, than Ruse. I've had Okaros as scum in my notes, but half of you are down as scum, so I dunno.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:22 PM

Rashan stop. Not that one as people have mentioned the post numbers may be wrong. Towards end of day.

http://forum.malazan...c=23589&st=1560

#1571


Onwards.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:24 PM

Goddammit, that took like 20 minutes.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:24 PM

Fuck me, how did I miss that you had all of this down already?

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:26 PM

View PostRashan, on 23 March 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

Barghast. Kalse, and Okaros are not mentioned there, either.

I would rather vote Kalse, as of right now, than Ruse. I've had Okaros as scum in my notes, but half of you are down as scum, so I dunno.

i thought your only notes were inm your head?

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:29 PM

They are. Same as why I have Tennes and Gamelon as recruiter/recruit. I can remember people I think are scum, but not WHY. It's annoying.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:30 PM

View PostBarghast, on 23 March 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

View PostTennes, on 23 March 2012 - 01:58 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on 23 March 2012 - 01:50 PM, said:

?

dude, i'm not saying Ruse is corrrect in any way shape or form.

but his supposed reason for ridiculous over-distancing, and the explosion that followed is because YOU keep pestering him about a case built on some stuff he did on Day ONE.

If you don't see the absurdity of that reaction and reasoning, I can't help you.


And I don't recall ever saying that I was against a Kalse lynch, if we need one. if I did, quotes, plz.



So your voting for Ruse over an over reaction. Maybe he is pissed off at being called out be me all the time. How does that relate to him being a cult leader? Can you relate him to Atrahal? We have a shit load of information and your basing a case off an over reaction. I'd prefer you to pick holes at my case. Same with Kalse. Not one person followed my case yesterday. I didn't get to fully flesh it out until the end of the day but it has merit. I cannot see Kalse not turning out to be a cult leader and the resistance to that is telling in itself.

way to shift focus. I voted 1use based on his posts following atrahal's CF. Cant qoute cuz im in class.
First off, right after seeing the CF, he goes all naive saying "atrakhell was such a vocal player, why would anyone recruit him?", which to me just rang false.



nice strawman attempt.
actually i said he was getting allot of heat...surely they wouldnt recruit somebody thats getting allot of heat....but watever.


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On top of that, he then proceeded to try vehemently to set himself aside from atrahal, allegdly beduse he didnt want yo to keep making "ppoetry links". When i prodded hoim over it, he exploded.
It all stinks of desperation to stay alive, which makes me think ive hit cult.



i was replying to tennes who was linking me to atrahal....how can you ignore this...oh wait i forget...it suits you to make out as if i did it "randomly". :w00t:

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