[Okaros]

Whew. I've had a fairly limited posting window during this game, which has made it a little tricky for me. I think also there are so many lower posters (myself included) because of the lack on NKs and because there are some very dominant personalities on thread who are very ready to accuse anyone of being a symp if they defend someone else, which is maybe why there are so many weak cases that are still hanging around.

In terms of suspicions, I really disliked Omtose's reaction to the last lynch. It was weird and unnecessary. When I have a minute I will be looking more into him.

I didn't see much in the case over Mockra, but I dislike his defence, it would have been enough to say "sorry, I haven't been around much, this is what I think..." rather than a detailed analysis of his last few days. Also, "unfortunately for me I wasn't modkilled"? If you had wanted to be modkilled you didn't need to post anymore, just let your timer run out. Or better yet, message Shin and sort something out properly. This whole statement really confuses me. However, not sure I agree with Tennes, I still don't feel like cult leaders would be as pushy as Atrahal and Rashan. In saying that, Rashan has been very good at avoiding anything aimed at him...

I'm not sure about Barghast, but until I have some time to look back properly that will remain a gut feeling.

Also, Gamelon brings up an interesting point. What is Silanah's fixation with Tellan?

[Atrahal]

Precisely 5 of all those posts of mine you put up, Tennes, are non-serious, non game-related posts. It doesn't work to simply copy everything I wrote and call it spam. Do you know what spam is actually? Or are you, *shock*, trying to crowbar posts into your own beliefs/ideas?

[Ruse]

Tennes...most of those posts are not spam.



something is funny here.



edit - x-post (was not going to quote Tennes wall of pointless quotes)

This post has been edited by Ruse: 21 March 2012 - 10:30 AM

[Tennes]

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

Precisely 5 of all those posts of mine you put up, Tennes, are non-serious, non game-related posts. It doesn't work to simply copy everything I wrote and call it spam. Do you know what spam is actually? Or are you, *shock*, trying to crowbar posts into your own beliefs/ideas?

Precisely my point. Non game related posts that distance the discussion away from Mockra. The Mockra case was pages back due to you and Rashan bouncing off each other.

[Omtose]

I hate playing on a phone. My reaction to lio coming up inning was for drek not defending or snapping out of the rping. I think her bad playing cost us two days. I don't know who to chase now. Gut is on atrahal, I think the real reason he swung the Lynch was to break up the train so there wouldn't be a lynch

[Ruse]

Tennes, on 21 March 2012 - 10:38 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

Precisely 5 of all those posts of mine you put up, Tennes, are non-serious, non game-related posts. It doesn't work to simply copy everything I wrote and call it spam. Do you know what spam is actually? Or are you, *shock*, trying to crowbar posts into your own beliefs/ideas?

Precisely my point. Non game related posts that distance the discussion away from Mockra. The Mockra case was pages back due to you and Rashan bouncing off each other.

i dont see how a few non game related posts would take discussion away from mockra case....how?
people gonna forget the case by discussing the weather? no they carry on with the game.
I would think GAME RELATED posts are the ones that you would need to drive attention away from mockra.
game related posts that push discussions somewhere else.

And further more...lots of people post things that are non game related all the time.
Never mind that its common...why then go and single out atrhal and not add say...rashan in there too?


i have to say your whole little "attack" there seems a bit contrived to me...maybe you are just playing with some blinkers on?...meh


edit - added "there too" to make more sense.

This post has been edited by Ruse: 21 March 2012 - 10:58 AM

[Tennes]

Ruse, on 21 March 2012 - 10:19 AM, said:

Tennes...most of those posts are not spam.



something is funny here.



edit - x-post (was not going to quote Tennes wall of pointless quotes)

That is not my point. Just because I called a spade a shovel doesn't mean it isn't a spade. His distancing from the Mockra case is what got my back up. There is one thing saying "i could vote for Mockra" yet he then goes on to provide different alternatives.

[Tennes]

Vote Atrahal

I think he istrying to protect his "recruit" Mockra and I don't know why Ruse is defending him.

[Okaros]

Tennes... whatever I think of the case on Atrahal, providing other options is not really scummy...

I will be back on in a few hours, but for now I will leave with

Vote Mockra

I dislike his defence and the fact that he came on to answer the case against him but provided no commentary on the rest of the game.

[Rashan]

Ahem. Sorry about that. Jesus.


In all seriousness, I can say right now that hunting through all the low-mid posters will do nothing for us, because there are so many players in that range. The smaller range is Myself, Atrahal, Barghast, and D'riss.


I feel it very likely that one of those 3 is scum. I'm voting Atrahal currently, and willing to stick with that for now.

[Ruse]

Tennes, on 21 March 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

Vote Atrahal

I think he istrying to protect his "recruit" Mockra and I don't know why Ruse is defending him.

Think what you want, I am not protecting anyone i just dont like your logic...its stinks.
Should i keep quiet when i see shit? I dont like how you are writing my questions off as me defending atrhal either.
Im defending atrhal...atrhal is defending mockra...we are all "defending" each other yea?!!!

your defense against anyone who attacks you as "defending your targets" is lame.

[Tennes]

Ruse, on 21 March 2012 - 11:44 AM, said:

Tennes, on 21 March 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

Vote Atrahal

I think he istrying to protect his "recruit" Mockra and I don't know why Ruse is defending him.

Think what you want, I am not protecting anyone i just dont like your logic...its stinks.
Should i keep quiet when i see shit? I dont like how you are writing my questions off as me defending atrhal either.
Im defending atrhal...atrhal is defending mockra...we are all "defending" each other yea?!!!

your defense against anyone who attacks you as "defending your targets" is lame.

No one has "attacked" me though. What are you talking about? I'm trying to build a case because the last few days i've followed other peoples cases and they've turned out wrong. I found Mockra to be a low lying coaster. One who stayed away from lynch trains until yesterday where he may have enough people to protect him if he gets called out. Atrahal says he finds him scummy but look here instead. I find that scummy. I find one of those two to be scum. You attacking my case is a defence of Atrahal whether you like it or not. I like the way you can do this without providing a case of your own or showing much insight into the game. Is this because I found you fishy early game? Is this you trying to make some waves and pretend like your playing?

[Atrahal]

Tennes, on 21 March 2012 - 10:38 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 21 March 2012 - 10:01 AM, said:

Precisely 5 of all those posts of mine you put up, Tennes, are non-serious, non game-related posts. It doesn't work to simply copy everything I wrote and call it spam. Do you know what spam is actually? Or are you, *shock*, trying to crowbar posts into your own beliefs/ideas?

Precisely my point. Non game related posts that distance the discussion away from Mockra. The Mockra case was pages back due to you and Rashan bouncing off each other.

Are you fucking joking?

No one really responded when I accused Mockra on day 2 - did I throw a hissy fit and claim everyone was distancing? No.

You yourself said your case was only half-finished. What am I supposed to do? Focus solely on a lame-ass half-a-case?

Fact is, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER YOU MAKING A CASE, SHIT OR OTHERWISE. If I ignored it, that's because it did nothing to stand out.

Vote Mockra

See if I give a shit.

[Atrahal]

Tennes, I find your focus on me very strange. Your reasoning does not fit with what I or others have said on thread. At all. I think you're scared because I named you among a short list of suspects, and your paranoia has convinced you that I'm in league with Mockra.

[Atrahal]

Tennes, on 21 March 2012 - 11:05 AM, said:

Vote Atrahal

I think he istrying to protect his "recruit" Mockra and I don't know why Ruse is defending him.

No one's defending me or Mockra for that matter you....("D'riss, what's that word again?")....it's not a crime to see your logic as complete fail when that is precisely what it is. You yourself just said calling a spade a shovel doesn't mean it's not a spade. Well, I call your argument on me bullshit.

I was the first one prepared to go after Mockra, from back on day 2. But now, because I put your name down as one of a list of suspects, I'm suddenly complicit with him? Well fuck you and your logic. If Mockra is lynched, I hope he does turn up to be cult, because we sure as shit do need to hit one already. But if he doesn't, I'll be almost as happy, because I'll be entirely convinced that you're the one from my list we need to go after.

[Path-Shaper]

s Day 4

12 hours and 19 minutes left in the day.

16 players are left alive:
Atrahal, Barghast, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil,Omtose, Rashan, Ruse Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes


9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.

3 votes Mockra: Kalse, Okaros, Atrahal
1 vote Korvalain: D'riss
1 vote Atrahal: Rashan
1 vote D'riss: Ruse
1 vote Atrahal: Tennes


Players not voting: Barghast, Gamelon, Korvalain, Mockra, Olar Ethil,Omtose, Serc, Silanah, Tellan

[Silanah]

Okaros, on 21 March 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:

Whew. I've had a fairly limited posting window during this game, which has made it a little tricky for me. I think also there are so many lower posters (myself included) because of the lack on NKs and because there are some very dominant personalities on thread who are very ready to accuse anyone of being a symp if they defend someone else, which is maybe why there are so many weak cases that are still hanging around.

In terms of suspicions, I really disliked Omtose's reaction to the last lynch. It was weird and unnecessary. When I have a minute I will be looking more into him.

I didn't see much in the case over Mockra, but I dislike his defence, it would have been enough to say "sorry, I haven't been around much, this is what I think..." rather than a detailed analysis of his last few days. Also, "unfortunately for me I wasn't modkilled"? If you had wanted to be modkilled you didn't need to post anymore, just let your timer run out. Or better yet, message Shin and sort something out properly. This whole statement really confuses me. However, not sure I agree with Tennes, I still don't feel like cult leaders would be as pushy as Atrahal and Rashan. In saying that, Rashan has been very good at avoiding anything aimed at him...

I'm not sure about Barghast, but until I have some time to look back properly that will remain a gut feeling.

Also, Gamelon brings up an interesting point. What is Silanah's fixation with Tellan?

Tellan gave me a cult gut feeling, scumdar pings, and a lot of suspicious play. I understand RL issues, they really can screw up you play, but at least do a quick post from your phone to say you won't be around for a while. Because of my suspicions, I felt we needed to lynch him, but we then had the whole emur/lio debacle and forgot all other cases. Sadly, we did have to lynch lio, if only to not have a huge distraction from other cases. Now that Tellan is back, I really hope we can get an explanation for the fake symping on day 1.

[D'riss]

Path-Shaper, on 21 March 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

s Day 4

12 hours and 19 minutes left in the day.

16 players are left alive:
Atrahal, Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil,Omtose, Rashan, Ruse Serc, Silanah, Tellan, Tennes


9 votes to lynch, 8 to go to night.

3 votes Mockra: Kalse, Okaros, Atrahal
1 vote Korvalain: D'riss
1 vote Atrahal: Rashan
1 vote D'riss: Ruse
1 vote Atrahal: Tennes


Players not voting: Barghast, Gamelon, Korvalain, Mockra, Olar Ethil,Omtose, Serc, Silanah, Tellan

PS... you may wanna check your maths...

[D'riss]

Rashan, on 21 March 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

Ahem. Sorry about that. Jesus.


In all seriousness, I can say right now that hunting through all the low-mid posters will do nothing for us, because there are so many players in that range. The smaller range is Myself, Atrahal, Barghast, and D'riss.


I feel it very likely that one of those 3 is scum. I'm voting Atrahal currently, and willing to stick with that for now.

You also need to check your maths Rashan, although I suspect you may still be muddled from the drink last night.
1 Rashan + 1 Atrahal + 1 Barghast + 1 D'riss = 4

[Atrahal]

Tennes, I just took a look at your case.

Fuck me with a boomstick.

Now I know why I didn't pay attention. It's just a wall of Mockra's posts with no comments. You did in fact say you'll be back later to give comments, so perhaps it actually stood to reason to not comment on your own opinions, SEEING AS YOU HADN'T GIVEN US ANY AT THAT POINT. Jesus fucking Christ.

After you left your Mockra mural, as well as me, Olar, Barghast, Tellan, D'riss, and Gamelon all also came on and made no mention of your post. Why aren't they distancing from Mockra then?

Of those who did mention Mockra, Rashan did so but without reference to you, Korvalain gave one very brief mention, and Okaros said he thought your case was shit but would vote for Mockra for his own reasons.


The funniest thing is, I have absolutely no problem in voting for Mockra. Indeed, I actually like my vote being on Mockra. What I am pissed off about is that you're one of those stubborn empty-headed fuckers who can't change their stance on certain aspects of their case no matter how much evidence is put to them to the contrary.