[Okaros]

Dammit!

[Sorrit]

But I have more. Yesterday was so full of connections that it was actually a joy to read. There was the Barghast - Rashan defence

Rashan, on 15 March 2012 - 09:02 PM, said:

Barghast is one of the highest contributors, at least in my notes. (I don't have notes, except in my brain).

Barghast, on 15 March 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

yeah, it's a bit rich saying I haven't said anything all game, tbh.



Whilst I may not have been as earnest in the case-making as some, I certrainly believe I was fairly consistent yesterday. I disliked the case on Rashan from the beginning and after the joke vote on Fener fizzled out, I switched to Karosis, whom I mentioned as worth keeping an eye out early on due to his vote hopping antics.
I've provided steady cvommentary on most of Day 1, it's not my fault most of it revolved around Rashan, whom I figured as likely town early on,

I especially like it when in a recruiting game when one player calls another player obviously town.

There were also some other intesting interactions between . Tennes - Olar Ethil

Olar Ethil, on 15 March 2012 - 10:57 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 15 March 2012 - 10:22 AM, said:

Okaros, on 15 March 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

Mockra, that's a great summary.

No, it isn't.

Vote Mockra

For repeating almost exactly the analysis of the lynch train which Karosis made just before he was lynched, down to exactly who he found the most suspicious, and then passing it off as his own analysis.

I'm also happy to vote Tennes for the stupidity/scumminess of the Silanah reasoning for a vote on Karosis, as no one seems willing to lay their cads on the table regarding Rashan, despite quite a few of you going 'ooh, that's another suspicious thing you've done, Rashan.'

Yes, all that has really been added to what Karosis said are the quotes there.

I agree that Tennes comes across quite suspicious there and the 'following sil, he's innocent' thing could be a very clumsy attempt by scum to appear innocent, either way it is pretty lazy. I understand time constraints but it doesn't sit well.

Rashan I was feeling was less scummy again, maybe because Karosis felt more so at that point, though reading over his last few posts I was really impressed he didn't have a fit and was helpful to town and his thought son the possible recruiting mechanic were interesting, though personally I think it might be impractical. The better you than me comment really struck me as scummy though. While most players understand the sentiment town players are supposed to play as a collective to help each other and that kind of attitude is usually counter-productive and can be damaging in the long run. Checking it against Karosis' exit when it became inevitable it is quite a contrast.

Olar Ethil, on 15 March 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

Tennes, on 15 March 2012 - 03:32 PM, said:

In a lot of my notes so far Atrahal has been the aggressor, attacking quite a few people. You see this first with Rashan on post number 68. Number 142 he agrees with Karosis about Korvalian and then has a pissing match with tellan. I haven't went further than this in my notes yet but I think Atrahal is more than likely town, I cannot see scum being that "out there". I asked you about him because something seemed off about him but over a re read i'm not sure at all. I am going to have a look through and see what I can find



edit, spelling

I've had a similar feeling in regards to Atrahal, there was a point, especially after his exchanges and agreements with Karosis that I felt suspicious of him but re-reading his posts he doesn't strike me as very scummy, this is quite a gut feeling though. I honestly don't think scum if they were a certain type of player would always keep quiet and be non-confrontational, so it is not even this angle that gives me that feeling. Of course Karosis showed up as inno and so maybe this is effecting my judgement in Atrahals favour since I see to have the two linked in my mind.

Barghasts list of low posters struck me as scummy though. Yes, low posters can be concerning as the game goes on but it is better to have a post with content, discussion and opinions rather than have a high number of posts in which little is being said.

I am still interested in Tellan and Rashan, Rashan was very opposed to the possible symping tellan seemed to be doing for him and Tellan said this was not the case and after this was picked up by a few people became suspicious of Rashan. Tellan said it was less a defence and more an attack against Atrahal and I though yesterday it could be a case of fake symping but the whole thing leaves me unsure. I can't see Tellan taking that long to pick up Rashan's hints and then turning suspicion on him so fast, it is just so clumsy. That is what makes me think that it could be a case of fake symping, I was wrong about it being fake symping on behalf of Karosis but there were few other players getting heat around the time, Fener had a couple of casual votes but there is little to go off there since he has said little and it was mainly based on the history of the avatar so I can't see it having become such a great threat.

Both of these interactions were fairly early in the day. Just when I would expect for recruits to be interacting with recruiters. There was also some vote following. Which always makes for decent signalling.

Kalse, on 15 March 2012 - 04:29 PM, said:

Also,

vote liosan

for now. yeah yeah yeah, i'm being a sour puss, but your RP isn't helping us in any way and is incredibly distracting. This vote is subject to change upon Liosan actually becoming useful.

Omtose, on 16 March 2012 - 09:02 AM, said:

Tennes, on 16 March 2012 - 08:44 AM, said:

I'm going to have a read up over the next few hours too. I was thinking overnight how scum might play this game and I think it is in their best interest not to lynch. If there is no lynch it gives them more of a pool of people to recruit from. You could argue that they may want to eliminate the opposing scum but the chances are that they'll hit town more than scum this early in the game. [thoughts] We cannot allow them a free ride, so before reading the thread I suppose i'm looking for someone who is avoiding confrontation and laying low [/thoughts]It also makes me suspicious of people who want to wait until Friday to play, or cannot participate but will at a "later" date, this kind of talk makes me think that they are waiting to build up their numbers so that they have symps and people who agree with them. I'll have a proper read up today

Well I posted in the sign up that I couldn't play until I had the time off. As is I didn't expect the game to start until next week.

But at present I am going to put my, and keep my vote on Liosan until he stops posting like a twat.

vote Liosan

Then there is this to go with the defending from above

Barghast, on 15 March 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

hey, peoples, been hella busy today. Meant to get caught up at lunch, but other things came up., right now I got about an hour and a half to dedicate to the game (and homework) before I have to rush off to work.

I see Okaros is trying to raise some suspicions about me,basing it off my attempt to get lo-posters to contribute. Hrm, not much to add to that. some of the people on my list Fener, Emu, Ruse, Omtose) have contributed basically nothign so far. A few (Okaros, Tennes) have had a few posts but tried to make them meaningful, and Liosan continues to RP, successfully making sure that whatever points he's trying to get across


whan all is said and done, i will

vote emurlahn



because it's the oddest vote on the train.

Rashan, on 16 March 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

Oh. Yes, actually. Could we get a ruling on that, PS?

Next is Ruse with 5, Emurlahn with 9, and Omtose with 11.

Even with only 11 posts, Omtose is interacting, so I have no worries there.

Ruse and Emurlahn, I think, are slightly more worrying. Ruse had a family emergency. I will not lynch him for that. If it was a lie, I'm going to be dissapointed, but if it is the truth I don't think we should lynch him right now.

So Emurlahn is the lowest poster who is suspicious, at least. Someone already had a case on him that holds true. Strange vote, little interaction until he was called out. '

Remove Vote

Vote Emurlahn

Tennes, on 16 March 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

Even if all 6 anom's voted for Lio we won't have enough for a lynch I am around and can change my vote. I don't like Ruse' excuse of RP, he had time to contribute whilst doing that, he could have also posted more which goes in his favour somewhat, his coming on after my case goes against him as well as people brushing off his absence like it didn't matter, so I will keep my eye on Ruse but



Remove Vote



Vote Fener



I can add it to the Liosan train if and when needed. Fener needs to talk more.

Gamelon, on 16 March 2012 - 01:52 PM, said:

I'm back,

Willing to go for a low post lynch, though I think scum wouldn't be quite so low as some of these, nevertheless getting ride of non contributing town is probably for the best.

I'd like to see if Lio will stop the RP, since they seem to be around regulary, and once they drop the convoluted language they may be of more use to town. Similarly, I'd like like give Ruse a chance to start playing now that RL issues are sorted. Fener on the other hand simply hasn't been around at all with no explanation or anything, which is a shame but it's also frustrating.

Vote Fener

I am willing to switch to Lio to get a lynch for the day

Now just because someone votes for the same person that another person votes for doesn't make them on the same team. However any of these could easily be early signalling. I think that I will read over this some more and see if I can see any more connections as we do have a full day remaining.

[Rashan]

Okaros, on 19 March 2012 - 03:02 AM, said:

Dammit!

...what?

[Rashan]

Signalling means symps. I don't disagree with that, necessarily. And I'll tell you right now I defended Barghast. He's my favorite player in this game right now. (Knowing my luck, that makes him scum).

I don't buy that agreeing with someone means signalling, though. (OE and Tennes). It could, I suppose, but OE could just agree with the statement.

[Okaros]

Rashan, on 19 March 2012 - 03:03 AM, said:

Okaros, on 19 March 2012 - 03:02 AM, said:

Dammit!

...what?

I keep forgetting to sign in anonymously, and then I have to go sign out and sign back in.

[Okaros]

Path-Shaper, on 19 March 2012 - 03:01 AM, said:

It is not my intention to obfuscate the meaning of the CF. CF's are intended to let you know if/when town has caught cult.

If someone comes up simply as "Minister of ______" that means they were "Minister of ________" and nothing more.

Thanks, PS

[Barghast]

Rashan, on 19 March 2012 - 03:09 AM, said:

Signalling means symps. I don't disagree with that, necessarily. And I'll tell you right now I defended Barghast. He's my favorite player in this game right now. (Knowing my luck, that makes him scum).

I don't buy that agreeing with someone means signalling, though. (OE and Tennes). It could, I suppose, but OE could just agree with the statement.

If I was scum, I'd be facepalming right now, SInce last I checked I was still town, i'd settle for being mildly suspicious of Rash possibly fake-symping me.

@ Sorrit: we already went over this: I spoke of thinking Rash was deffo inno on Day 1. Up to this point, i'm fairly sure (though not 100%) that the only "defending" of him that I may have done was all with relation to the day 1 case against him.]


EDITED: scum should be inno. my head's not quite in the game atm, i still got tons of hmwk to catch up on.

This post has been edited by Barghast: 19 March 2012 - 03:24 AM

[Rashan]

I'm being straightforward this game, I have to say it's fun.

Also, I think I was right about Tellan. He sure went off the radar, didn't he?

[Barghast]

Rashan, on 19 March 2012 - 03:31 AM, said:

I'm being straightforward this game, I have to say it's fun.

Also, I think I was right about Tellan. He sure went off the radar, didn't he?

honesty... in mafia?



I've tried this before. this tactic has habitually led to my quick death.

[Tennes]

Path-Shaper, on 15 March 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

It is Day 1
A Lynch has occurred.

21 players are left alive:
Atrahal, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Kalse, Karosis, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Ruse Serc, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan, Tennes

1 vote Rashan: Liosan
11 votes Karosis: D'riss, Okaros, Kalse, Barghast, Emurlahn, Silanah, Tennes, Olar Ethil, Korvalain, Atrahal, Rashan
2 votes Mockra: Sorrit, Korvalain
1 vote Okaros: Karosis
1 vote Atrahal: Tellan
1 vote Liosan: Emurlahn
1 vote Serc: Tennes
1 vote Korvalain: Silanah, Omtose


Players not voting: Fener Gamelon, Mockra, Ruse, Serc


The ministers sat about in the one remaining servicable room in the palace for such a group. Wafts of conversations passed about like smoke. Some ministers would stop on occassion to pen a poem, or write a few lines that they planned to sell later. On the few occasions the Emperor appeared, they looked to their decorum, but generally the atmosphere was relaxed. That was, until the Minister of Civil Services began to throw accusations about. The majority managed to maintain a gentile air and ignored him for the most part, voicing their own suspicions about who was being bribed by who. That is, until someone quietly whispered "he throws accusations around like someone throws money around." This quickly morphed into a cry of "he must have money! he has been bribed!"

And suddenly the gentil nobles became a ruthless mob as they ran him out of the palace.


Karosis (Sir Thursday) was Minister of Civil Services.

So the first lynch train. Serc is the only one left who has not voted either day. Okaros has been on one lynch train. Those in orange would have been on the Liosan lynch day 2. Green has been on both lynches.

At this point in time I want to look more in to Serc. I'm going to have a look through today. I'll post the second lynch train in a second for comparison too.

[Tennes]

Path-Shaper, on 16 March 2012 - 03:06 PM, said:

It is Day 2.

A lynch has occurred.

20 players are left alive:
Atrahal, Barghast, D'riss, Emurlahn, Fener, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Omtose, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Ruse Serc, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan, Tennes


3 votes Liosan: Kalse, Emurlahn, Korvalain
11 votes Emurlahn: Rashan, Atrahal, Ruse, Silanah, Omtose, Barghast, D'riss, Gamelon, Olar Ethil, Liosan, Tennes
1 vote Serc: Tellan

Players not voting: Fener, Mockra, Okaros, Serc, Sorrit

The Counselor was carefully carrying a pot of ink and scraps of parchment to his poetry lesson, when a sudden thundering herd of ministers and counselors rushed out from the corridors on all sides, a dozen rough silken kimono rustling like so many drunken butterflies humping on rice paper lanterns.
He barely had time to say "?Wha…" as he was whisked out of the palace by the incensed mob, dropping his precious tools along the way.
After searching his room, they decided he must have been guilty only of writing poems that were too short.

They didn't even notice that the Major Counselor of the Imperial Household had run away with the the Middle Counselor until the next morning.

Emurlahn, (Lizra) was Middle Counselor of the Imperial Household.

Fener (Kurt Montandon) was Major Counselor of the Imperial Household. <modkilled>

It is now night 2. Confirm/submit actions please.

I had highlighted Fener because he did not vote either. Was Mockra voting on day one, he slipped my mind.

[Tennes]

So Mockra and Serc did not vote either day. That is interesting. What does anyone else think of the two trains?

[Path-Shaper]

The great bell of Chionin Temple tolled in the distance. Some ministers were strolling the gardens, calmly discussing poetry and pointedly avoiding the subject of politics.

Others reclined indoors, sipping tea and taking a brush to paper from time to time. One minister was in a shed out behind the kitchens with one of the maids.

Yet behind the veneer of gentile conversation, hooded eyes weighed and considered each neighbor. Each was trying to decide whether they had, or had not, accepted bribe money.

It is Day 3.

The clock has started at 28 hours and 32 minutes left in the day.

18 players are left alive:
Atrahal Barghast, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil,Omtose, Rashan, Ruse Serc, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan, Tennes


2 votes Liosan: Omtose, Atrahal


Players not Voting: Barghast, D’riss, Gamelon, Kalse, Korvalain, Liosan, Mockra, Okaros, Olar Ethil, Rashan, Ruse Serc, Silanah, Sorrit, Tellan, Tennes

[Mockra]

Sorry all, haven't really had a chance to read the thread since about Thursday. Not really going to get a chance to post or read up whats happened till about 15 hours or so from now fingers crossed.

I presume its Day 3, how long do we have to go?

[Mockra]

Ahh never mind, cross post. So weekend break just ended now? Sweet! Will try and go read up in the next 10 or so minutes before I have to disappear.

@Tennes - I don't recall voting all game, Day 1 joke vote or otherwise.

[Ruse]

Tennes, on 19 March 2012 - 08:54 AM, said:

So Mockra and Serc did not vote either day. That is interesting. What does anyone else think of the two trains?

i was somewhat surprised at the speed in which we where able to switch from liosan L-2 to Emur L-2 within the 50 min left on the clock.

but i still feel it was the better lynch at the time.

[Ruse]

im too hungover for this...

[Path-Shaper]

And I'm in the process of getting drunk. What's your point?

[Atrahal]

Hello all.

PS, you sounded terribly bored over the weekend. Erm, did it occur to you to maybe, um, go outside or something?

I'm afraid I won't be around much today. I'm travelling for most of the day. I'll be around to post from my phone while waiting for my plane, but after that I won't be on again till tomorrow.

[Path-Shaper]

It was raining here. I went running, but that was it.

I had some lovely naps on the couch with my 2 month old, but outside of taking care of the sprogling I didn't have much to do....