[Barghast]

hey, peoples, been hella busy today. Meant to get caught up at lunch, but other things came up., right now I got about an hour and a half to dedicate to the game (and homework) before I have to rush off to work.

I see Okaros is trying to raise some suspicions about me,basing it off my attempt to get lo-posters to contribute. Hrm, not much to add to that. some of the people on my list Fener, Emu, Ruse, Omtose) have contributed basically nothign so far. A few (Okaros, Tennes) have had a few posts but tried to make them meaningful, and Liosan continues to RP, successfully making sure that whatever points he's trying to get across


whan all is said and done, i will

vote emurlahn



because it's the oddest vote on the train.

[Atrahal]

Silanah, on 15 March 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

Barghast is giving me a bit of a bad gut vibe right now. On my phone so can't post much right now. Also, I know you responded to D'riss's case, Atrahal, but didn't respond to me, which makes it seem like you can't respond to questioning/cases without accusing the accuser of being scum or cult.

? But I didn't accuse D'riss of being either of those things.


And I didn't realise yours was an actual case. It honestly looked like you just commented on what some of my posts 'could' look like...and then stopped halfway through. There wasn't even any conclusion. Do you want me to respond?

[Okaros]

Silanah, on 15 March 2012 - 08:52 PM, said:

Barghast is giving me a bit of a bad gut vibe right now. On my phone so can't post much right now. Also, I know you responded to D'riss's case, Atrahal, but didn't respond to me, which makes it seem like you can't respond to questioning/cases without accusing the accuser of being scum or cult.

Um... I don't recall seeing atrahal accuse d'riss of being scum/cult. Where did you see that?

[Okaros]

Damn stupid phone taking so long to reply and cross posts and mumble grumble...

[Rashan]

Barghast is one of the highest contributors, at least in my notes. (I don't have notes, except in my brain).

[D'riss]

Silanah, on 15 March 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

Now I have my Multiquotes ready to go
1. 1st post and already a case? Seems a bit too eager to seem like a major contributor. (Whether he is or not is not the point, just whether he seems like he wants to be)

Atrahal, on 13 March 2012 - 04:52 PM, said:

Hail the Anti-Steve!!!!


Now:

Rashan, on 13 March 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

Steve? No, Silanah is Go-Kashiwabara, our Emperor.

I highly doubt my fellow Ministers would be so ignorant as all previous posters seem. Too many to vote now, I will sulk in my own despair.

What manner of recruiter will attempt to bribe us, I wonder. Certainly nothing civil so far.

Rashan, on 13 March 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

I, for one, consider it interesting that there may be more than one lowly briber. A single entity taking advantage of our temporary lack of funds does not surprise me, but multiple? Perhaps we will be able to play them against each other.

As someone in the newb game said - "He who smelt it, dealt it."


Vote Rashan

The much trodden ground of the "Fight Goddamn You!" Where honestly if you think you are going to be lynched day one you would be pretty demoralized and would probably post something about it before you tried to help town on your way out (at least what seems like your way out.

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:

Rashan, on 13 March 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

:yawn:

I can already tell I'm going to be lynched today, unless someone does something crazy.

If you are scum, pathetic attempt. If you are town, then fight goddamn you! Remember you're part of a team and if you're lynched, it hurts the whole team and not just your lazy ass. Yes, even on day 1. I would prefer to think you're silly scum - you do want to earn my respect don't you?

If you want to piss people off, the most widely used and foolproof method is "translating" their statements and twisting them into something else. At least say that is what you interpreted not what it actually means

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Okaros, on 14 March 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

Geez, it's no wonder people are turning up to check in and then leaving again. We're not even halfway through day one and already people are getting jumped on!

On top of that, between Karosis and Atrahal no one can win. If you defend yourself too much that is suspicious, but if you don't defend yourself at all you're also suspicious!

Day one cases are a crapshoot, and I don't blame Rashan for his resignation. It's pretty much impossible to against a day one case because anything you do or say will be micro-analysed. Sure, scum can slip up on day one as much as any other day, but it takes the context of the following days to find anything useful.

So with that, I am going to head off to work on my kickass Noh Dancing. I'll be back in time to vote. Try not to get your collective knickers twisted too much.

Translation: "I'll criticise other people's attempts to highlight things, but I won't bother to actually contribute anything myself. In fact, I'm not sure why I even posted on day 1. I'll vote for whoever is going to get lynched at the end of the day, because frankly I can't be bothered about giving a shit today."

Those colors were the worst part of the reread. Also, yeah, you were just repeating each others arguments, getting higher post counts but going nowhere, making it seem at a glance like you have contributed more than you actually have.

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

Tellan versus Atrahal

Atrahal: Tellan might be defending Rashan a little
Tellan: I'm not defending Rashan, Rashan's a saint who can't do no wrong!
Atrahal: You seem a little touchy, Tellan, I'm keeping my eyes on you
Tellan: No, I'm keeping my eyes on you! You're scummy, your posts are scummy.
Atrahal: Well, your responses to my responses are scummy!
Tellan: You're not answering my questions!
Atrahal: You're ignoring my responses!
Tellan: You smell!
Atrahal: No, you smell!


Having read over our conversations, consider the above my acknowledgement that Tellan and I are simply repeating each other's accusations back at each other

Don't fish Atrahal.

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 03:41 PM, said:

Silanah, on 14 March 2012 - 03:39 PM, said:

According to the decree of PS, I cannot answer that question.

Interesting! Do your secret abilities make you rub your hands in glee?

Reveal the maths you used or I will have no faith in your cases from now on.

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

Barghast, on 14 March 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

Atrahal, on 14 March 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:

So my suspects at the moment, as well as Rashan (duh), are Omtose, because of his questioning of one of Korvalain's posts which I found strange (and which Tellan also took umbrage over ). It struck me as someone trying too hard to think as a townie and pointing out something as signalling which would only make sense if the person doing it (Korv in this case) was in fact a townie himself. Yeah, I know this is a mega-stretch at the moment but I plead day 1.

My other suspects, according to a mathematical formula for finding scum which I have devised, are Kalse and D'riss. No case, no post analysis, no gut feeling, just pure and simple maths. Who can argue against the logic of mathematics eh?

Frankly, it is impossible, untill said maths are presented for public scrutiny.

Ah, I am afraid that I cannot. Such a presentation would render the formula open to corruption, once the scum knew how to get out of being identified by said formula. Then I would have to devise a whole new one

Kalse, on 14 March 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

Regarding Atrahal, I am not seeing the case on him really, though his support of the above mentioned Karosis is disturbing. (see below). How you can exclude 2 people from the game this early is odd to me. You exclude Fener from your possible votes today, but he has brought nothing to the table. How can you have any read on him. Know more than some of us?

I exclude Fener and Karosis for now, not forever. With about ten other options on the table, some have to be excluded if we're going to get anywhere, no? You're right that Fener has brought nothing, but the people voting for him (I think it's actually down to just one now) did not do so on the grounds of suspicious low posting either. They did it because it's Fener. As for Karosis, I gave what I consider a pretty sensible reason why I exclude voting for him at this present point.

Don't confuse that with me saying that I consider some of Karosis' play helpful, however. In fact, I would venture that your post refuting his case on you and turning his own play style back on him is the best post of the game so far. Congrats

Any response to Silanah's post?

[Atrahal]

Rashan, on 15 March 2012 - 09:02 PM, said:

Barghast is one of the highest contributors, at least in my notes. (I don't have notes, except in my brain).

My notes are also in my head - and my head tells me that Barghy started off keen as a whistle, and gradually lost energy. This is wholly unsubstantiated, by the way.

[Barghast]

yeah, it's a bit rich saying I haven't said anything all game, tbh.



Whilst I may not have been as earnest in the case-making as some, I certrainly believe I was fairly consistent yesterday. I disliked the case on Rashan from the beginning and after the joke vote on Fener fizzled out, I switched to Karosis, whom I mentioned as worth keeping an eye out early on due to his vote hopping antics.
I've provided steady cvommentary on most of Day 1, it's not my fault most of it revolved around Rashan, whom I figured as likely town early on,

[Barghast]

Atrahal, on 15 March 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

Rashan, on 15 March 2012 - 09:02 PM, said:

Barghast is one of the highest contributors, at least in my notes. (I don't have notes, except in my brain).

My notes are also in my head - and my head tells me that Barghy started off keen as a whistle, and gradually lost energy. This is wholly unsubstantiated, by the way.

this may have had somehting to do with RL, scheduling and all,

[Okaros]

Barghast, on 15 March 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

hey, peoples, been hella busy today. Meant to get caught up at lunch, but other things came up., right now I got about an hour and a half to dedicate to the game (and homework) before I have to rush off to work.

I see Okaros is trying to raise some suspicions about me,basing it off my attempt to get lo-posters to contribute. Hrm, not much to add to that. some of the people on my list Fener, Emu, Ruse, Omtose) have contributed basically nothign so far. A few (Okaros, Tennes) have had a few posts but tried to make them meaningful, and Liosan continues to RP, successfully making sure that whatever points he's trying to get across


whan all is said and done, i will

vote emurlahn



because it's the oddest vote on the train.

Well done, you completely missed the point. Posting a list of the lowest posters is not putting pressure on anyone. If you want to pressure someone, build a case on them. Just posting the list is a lazy way of trying to look like you are contributing without really saying anything at all. And then you return and dump a vote on emurlahn with no concrete reasoning, without considering any of the other cases under discussion.

[Atrahal]

Barghast, on 15 March 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

yeah, it's a bit rich saying I haven't said anything all game, tbh.



Whilst I may not have been as earnest in the case-making as some, I certrainly believe I was fairly consistent yesterday. I disliked the case on Rashan from the beginning and after the joke vote on Fener fizzled out, I switched to Karosis, whom I mentioned as worth keeping an eye out early on due to his vote hopping antics.
I've provided steady cvommentary on most of Day 1, it's not my fault most of it revolved around Rashan, whom I figured as likely town early on,

I hope we're all keeping in mind - he says patronisingly - that if we PI someone in our heads on one day we shouldn't do so the next, as they could have well been recruited in the night. That's what might make this game pretty complex, the fact that only Silanah might be CIable throughout.

[Okaros]

Right, I really have to leave. back in a few hours, and happily back at a computer

[Rashan]

I don't like Okaros, but I don't think he's scum. Just self important for some reason.

There are no good cases right now. I like my Tellan thing, but most of it is gut. The atrahal case is nonsensical, the case on me is nonsensical. Are there any others?

[Barghast]

Okaros, on 15 March 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

Barghast, on 15 March 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

hey, peoples, been hella busy today. Meant to get caught up at lunch, but other things came up., right now I got about an hour and a half to dedicate to the game (and homework) before I have to rush off to work.

I see Okaros is trying to raise some suspicions about me,basing it off my attempt to get lo-posters to contribute. Hrm, not much to add to that. some of the people on my list Fener, Emu, Ruse, Omtose) have contributed basically nothign so far. A few (Okaros, Tennes) have had a few posts but tried to make them meaningful, and Liosan continues to RP, successfully making sure that whatever points he's trying to get across


whan all is said and done, i will

vote emurlahn



because it's the oddest vote on the train.

Well done, you completely missed the point. Posting a list of the lowest posters is not putting pressure on anyone. If you want to pressure someone, build a case on them. Just posting the list is a lazy way of trying to look like you are contributing without really saying anything at all. And then you return and dump a vote on emurlahn with no concrete reasoning, without considering any of the other cases under discussion.

right, because the point of every singel post must be to put pressure on people. my "list" was made as an observation, that about a third of the living players haven't done much. it was a prelude, so to speak, a way to organise my thoughts as to which one of them I should look at.

other cases under consideration? really? the only thing i've seen on my read-up was some questions about Atrahal being "too eager", as well as your own musings about me. I don't want to vote Atrahal.

as for a case agianst Emu? he has 5 bloody posts, the latest of them being a "i'm here, will catch up" post, and a vote that I consider scummy. What else do I need to explain to you?

[Barghast]

Atrahal, on 15 March 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:

Barghast, on 15 March 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

yeah, it's a bit rich saying I haven't said anything all game, tbh.



Whilst I may not have been as earnest in the case-making as some, I certrainly believe I was fairly consistent yesterday. I disliked the case on Rashan from the beginning and after the joke vote on Fener fizzled out, I switched to Karosis, whom I mentioned as worth keeping an eye out early on due to his vote hopping antics.
I've provided steady cvommentary on most of Day 1, it's not my fault most of it revolved around Rashan, whom I figured as likely town early on,

I hope we're all keeping in mind - he says patronisingly - that if we PI someone in our heads on one day we shouldn't do so the next, as they could have well been recruited in the night. That's what might make this game pretty complex, the fact that only Silanah might be CIable throughout.

This is true, thouhg I'm yet to see anyhtign from Rashan that would make me likely to suspect him.

besides, as days go on, with additonal recruits, cases should begin to revolve around relationships between players, which are hardly perceivable this early in the game.

[Emurlahn]

Barghast, on 15 March 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

hey, peoples, been hella busy today. Meant to get caught up at lunch, but other things came up., right now I got about an hour and a half to dedicate to the game (and homework) before I have to rush off to work.

I see Okaros is trying to raise some suspicions about me,basing it off my attempt to get lo-posters to contribute. Hrm, not much to add to that. some of the people on my list Fener, Emu, Ruse, Omtose) have contributed basically nothign so far. A few (Okaros, Tennes) have had a few posts but tried to make them meaningful, and Liosan continues to RP, successfully making sure that whatever points he's trying to get across


whan all is said and done, i will

vote emurlahn



because it's the oddest vote on the train.

Why exactly is my vote the oddest? The only bit of reasoning I found was this.

Barghast, on 15 March 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 15 March 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

I've changed my opinion on second suspect after Rashan to Tennes.

Because of his "I'm voting Karosis because Silanah is doing it" reasoning. What was that supposed to show?

Frankly I found Emu's "welp, guess i'd better get on teh train as 5th vote to make sure we get a train going" vote to be the most scum-jump-tastic thing on this train.

Nice how you paraphrase me. Really.
It was the end of the day with something like four hours left and I didn't know how much people would come on and me leaving I figured it made sense to switch to the most likely lynch target so we wouldn't have the problem of not getting enough votes together.
And pot calling the kettle for the "make sure we get a train going part"?

Edit: Added smiley to symbolise sarcasm.

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 15 March 2012 - 09:19 PM

[Barghast]

Emurlahn, on 15 March 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

Barghast, on 15 March 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

hey, peoples, been hella busy today. Meant to get caught up at lunch, but other things came up., right now I got about an hour and a half to dedicate to the game (and homework) before I have to rush off to work.

I see Okaros is trying to raise some suspicions about me,basing it off my attempt to get lo-posters to contribute. Hrm, not much to add to that. some of the people on my list Fener, Emu, Ruse, Omtose) have contributed basically nothign so far. A few (Okaros, Tennes) have had a few posts but tried to make them meaningful, and Liosan continues to RP, successfully making sure that whatever points he's trying to get across


whan all is said and done, i will

vote emurlahn



because it's the oddest vote on the train.

Why exactly is my vote the oddest? The only bit of reasoning I found was this.

Barghast, on 15 March 2012 - 01:28 AM, said:

Atrahal, on 15 March 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

I've changed my opinion on second suspect after Rashan to Tennes.

Because of his "I'm voting Karosis because Silanah is doing it" reasoning. What was that supposed to show?

Frankly I found Emu's "welp, guess i'd better get on teh train as 5th vote to make sure we get a train going" vote to be the most scum-jump-tastic thing on this train.

Nice how you paraphrase me. Really.
It was the end of the day with something like four hours left and I didn't know how much people would come on and me leaving I figured it made sense to switch to the most likely lynch target so we wouldn't have the problem of not getting enough votes together.
And pot calling the kettle for the "make sure we get a train going part"?

Edit: Added smiley to symbolise sarcasm.

Right, except, I said I din't like Karosis early on, and when I switched to him, I provided an actual reason--you know, like not being a sheep,
i'm not denying that it's possible you just wanted your vote where it'll do the most good, but its such lazy votes, especially when the train's not really a sure thing yet 9and it certainyl wasn't not with 4 votes, 2 of them being OMGUS votes) are inevitably the ones that end up catching people's attention.

[Korvalain]

I'm back. Avoided the thread most of the day because I was still steaming from yesterday. I saw a situation forming that was eerily similar from my last game and I just lost it. I'd like to aplologize to everyone for my outburst. Now that I've calmed down (mostly) I'll try to contribute to the discussion.

[Emurlahn]

It seems Lio has stopped to summarise and started to make a few more or less obvious points regarding logical fails of other players. It still feels a lot like he is upping his post count and he is still giving not much of his own opinion.

vote Liosan

[Emurlahn]

Barghast, on 15 March 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:

Right, except, I said I din't like Karosis early on, and when I switched to him, I provided an actual reason--you know, like not being a sheep,
i'm not denying that it's possible you just wanted your vote where it'll do the most good, but its such lazy votes, especially when the train's not really a sure thing yet 9and it certainyl wasn't not with 4 votes, 2 of them being OMGUS votes) are inevitably the ones that end up catching people's attention.

Fair enough, just that I provided my reason in my post before, it certainly didn't came as out of the blue as you want to make it seem.