[Cause]

https://www.iol.co.z...report-19349706

please god this is true

[Vengeance]

Cause, on 17 February 2019 - 02:14 PM, said:

https://www.iol.co.z...report-19349706

please god this is true

Of course it is. Obama won one. So there is no way that he wouldn't want to try.

[Morgoth]

Cause, on 17 February 2019 - 02:14 PM, said:

https://www.iol.co.z...report-19349706

please god this is true

There's several thousand people around the world whom can nominate for a nobel peace price. Former winners, government leaders, ministers, and so on and so forth. There are always newspaper stories about so and so being nominated, but they're always equally worthless.

[Malankazooie]

Oh boy. Feel the Bern 2020.

[EDIT] Larry David better have his Bernie Sanders chops tuned up and ready to rip.

This post has been edited by Malankazooie: 19 February 2019 - 03:21 PM

[Aptorian]

He's definitely my favorite Presidential candidate. I just wish he wasn't 77-78? years old. Even 70 seems too old for a candidate that may serve 8 years.

Also there should really be laws in America against starting a presidential campaign 1,5-2 years out from the actual election.

In Denmark it's three weeks and that's plenty.

This post has been edited by Alternative Goose: 19 February 2019 - 03:53 PM

[Primateus]

Alternative Goose, on 19 February 2019 - 03:48 PM, said:

He's definitely my favorite Presidential candidate. I just wish he wasn't 77-78? years old. Even 70 seems too old for a candidate that may serve 8 years.

Also there should really be laws in America against starting a presidential campaign 1,5-2 years out from the actual election.

In Denmark it's three weeks and that's plenty.

To be fair, the US is just ever so slightly bigger than our fair Denmark.

I'd argue a year for American presidential elections and 3-4 weeks for House/senate elections. Probably a couple of months for governor.

That way, the candidates, for president, will have time to visit each and every state with time to spare to visit several cities as well. Candidates for the House only have to worry about their district, so that's not so big a deal. For the Senate it's an entire state, but still not that big a deal.

And you guys should stop having elections for sheriffs, prosecutors and judges.

[worry]

Hell yes.

[Primateus]

That practice of private prisons is definitely something you guys need to get rid off. It's just one step removed from private law enforcement.

[worry]

Absolutely. I'm not so fond of public prisons either (at least as we conceive of them), but it'd be a good start.


Meanwhile:

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Throughout her decade-long career in Republican politics, Isgur has served as an advisor to Ted Cruz and Mitt Romney, and was Carly Fiorina’s deputy campaign manager for the 2016 Republican primary. Until last year, Isgur was a top spokesperson for former Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ Department of Justice.

Another fine hire from #TheLiberalMedia.

[Maark Abbott]

Today on FB:

"There are no democratic socialist countries in Europe, only capitalist countries with large welfare budgets due to outsourcing their defence to the US [via airbases etc]".

[Primateus]

Maark Abbott, on 20 February 2019 - 08:13 AM, said:

Today on FB:

"There are no democratic socialist countries in Europe, only capitalist countries with large welfare budgets due to outsourcing their defence to the US [via airbases etc]".

It does have a hint of truth. For decades the US has wanted to project it's power across the world via military bases in various countries. That in turn could make a belligerent nation less likely to attack such a host nation, one would think.

[Maark Abbott]

Primateus, on 20 February 2019 - 08:34 AM, said:

Maark Abbott, on 20 February 2019 - 08:13 AM, said:

Today on FB:

"There are no democratic socialist countries in Europe, only capitalist countries with large welfare budgets due to outsourcing their defence to the US [via airbases etc]".

It does have a hint of truth. For decades the US has wanted to project it's power across the world via military bases in various countries. That in turn could make a belligerent nation less likely to attack such a host nation, one would think.

The main point to dissect is the one about there being no democratic socialist countries here, mind.

[Aptorian]

You could argue that it's merely a matter of perspective. Might as well state that Denmark is a socialist country with a large private sector used to finance socialist programmes.

The truth is somewhere in the middle, hence why you typically speak about a Scandinavian model and normally don't think of the northern countries as either capitalist or socialist.

We've definitely moved further towards capitalism the past couple decades though I'd argue. Mainly because of the governments we've had.

This post has been edited by Alternative Goose: 20 February 2019 - 08:46 AM

[Tsundoku]

Smug little shit to sue ... pretty much everyone:

https://www.news.com...b4cf16462638a80

I've seen a bunch of videos of the incident from different angles and time periods, and in all of them Sandmann (and his "class" - what a misnomer - mates as well) comes across as a smug little turd desperately in need of a baseball bat to the face.
Phillips definitely made a mistake trying to get between the two groups of uber-shits, but that was about it.

Hmmm ... I've changed my mind about the baseball bat (I would prefer a cricket bat anyway, but most of you wouldn't know what I was talking about). No, let's use a rattan cane on the entirety of both groups (Covington Redneck Academy of Cousin-Fucking and the Black Hebrew Israelites Nutjobs) in that incident. 100 strokes each across the exposed buttocks, live on national TV.

[Gorefest]

Don't think being smug is a good enough reason to get your name dragged across the mud in front of the world. But $250 million is pretty insane. Only in the US.

[Tiste Simeon]

You wear a MAGA hat, you deserve to be called a racist bellend, it's pretty simple.

[Gorefest]

Perhaps, but the kid is still a minor. There needs to be some level of responsibility from our media in their reporting. Just because one side of the divide is flaunting the rules doesn't mean that the other side needs to be dragged down to a similar level of populist mud-slinging. Based on a couple of short amateur videos and a few media stills half the world is starting flame wars directed at a group of misguided children. Unfortunately quite often in this day and age the proportionality of response seems to get lost and people get preemptively tried and condemned through vigilante 'justice'.

This post has been edited by Gorefest: 20 February 2019 - 02:07 PM

[Cause]

worry, on 19 February 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

Hell yes.

He needs t pick about half of that list and start there. Its too much and some of it is too strange. The banking thing also seems populist rather than founded on any good reason

[worry]

Disagree. You start with everything you want to accomplish as a matter of principle. Make your ideals your goal posts. Everyone already knows it's not all "possible" overnight. And the Democratic Party is already full to bursting -- like a fissuring tumor -- with 'moderates' who've internalized gradualism as a "fact" of life and metabolized it as an ideology. They're obsessed with telling everybody else to wait, better things are down the line, if you just trust us to take you there an inch at a time. Largely because they're paid to say that by vastly wealthy interests who have no desire for change, and get rewarded for it when their job is through.


Anyway, literally nothing on that list sounds strange or radical to me. It's all like basic outline stuff for a civil society. Any novelty to it is just a sign of how steeped in poisonous we've been led to. Breaking up the biggest banks is a no-brainer, and probably among the most rooted-in-immediate-history. Since they, like, caused the Great Recession only a decade ago, were considered "too big to fail" and saved, with absolutely no consequences for what they caused and will cause again. In a healthier society, breaking up institutions this big and powerful would be routine.

[Tsundoku]

worry, on 20 February 2019 - 08:51 PM, said:

Disagree. You start with everything you want to accomplish as a matter of principle. Make your ideals your goal posts. Everyone already knows it's not all "possible" overnight. And the Democratic Party is already full to bursting -- like a fissuring tumor -- with 'moderates' who've internalized gradualism as a "fact" of life and metabolized it as an ideology. They're obsessed with telling everybody else to wait, better things are down the line, if you just trust us to take you there an inch at a time. Largely because they're paid to say that by vastly wealthy interests who have no desire for change, and get rewarded for it when their job is through.


Anyway, literally nothing on that list sounds strange or radical to me. It's all like basic outline stuff for a civil society. Any novelty to it is just a sign of how steeped in poisonous we've been led to. Breaking up the biggest banks is a no-brainer, and probably among the most rooted-in-immediate-history. Since they, like, caused the Great Recession only a decade ago, were considered "too big to fail" and saved, with absolutely no consequences for what they caused and will cause again. In a healthier society, breaking up institutions this big and powerful would be routine.

100% with Worry on this one. We were like that until the 80s when they (re)introduced tertiary fees and deregulated the banks so the bastards could rip us off more. We've had equal pay for years except for individually negotiated contracts and a couple of other loopholes which will hopefully go the way of the dinosaurs soon. Our current govt is dragging it's heels on climate but we've made steps anyway. The banking Royal Commission we just had was quite eye-opening but IMHO the recommendations haven't gone far enough. People whinge about our medical system but it's still better than 99% of the world.

These are all things any decent society (especially first world) should have and the reason the USA doesn't is only because of those vested moneyed interests that have been running the country for decades, especially since Reagan. They play on the "Better dead than Red" stupidity that is a hangover from McCarthyism and taints any discussion of even light state support for it's citizens.

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 20 February 2019 - 10:20 PM