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#6481 User is offline   Tiste Simeon 

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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:25 PM

Rex Tillerson: yeah, Russia was involved in the chemical attack in the UK.

Moron in Chief: you're fired lol
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 04:51 PM

This is amazing! How can people have faith in this man?

Is there one major player in goverment left who seems to have the support of the president? They have all either left or been fired, the ones who have stayed all have rumors of a poor working relationship. He would probably love to fire the attorney general too if he could.
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 07:14 PM

View PostThe Swampfather, on 13 March 2018 - 06:39 PM, said:

Pretty sure that once the laughter and jokes and fake shock die down lots of people here will be quite happy with Tillerson out. His appointment took heat here.


Yea its great, someone says 'maybe putin did poison someone that was protected by an ally, like the ally says' and hes fired immediately.

Totally just a fine thing. Now Steve Goldstein, who has been warning about Russia and was picked by Tillerson to try and prevent Russia's attempts to influence US citizens, fired. Totally fine. Steve was one of two (now there is just one, for those counting at home) under secretaries, there are normally 7.

Oh, and on Monday, Trump's personal assistant escorted out of the white house, and is under investigation by Homeland Security for financial crimes. Oh today this same person is offered a cushy six figure job for Trumps re-election campaign that has no defined responsibilities.

Meanwhile the guy Trump wants to replace Tillerson is a psychotic yes-man that wants to scapegoat Islamic people to rise to power. Mike Pompeo has stated a number of times that you can't be a US citizen and be a member of Islam.

More old white dudes that hate anyone who aren't exactly like them, and claim they are going to come kill everything you care about if you don't hate them to.

Just a fine thing to do.

Meanwhile, the new head of the CIA is a person who personally oversaw a extra-legal black site, and proceeded to destroy all evidence she could of it.

Totally fine.
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 07:16 PM

View PostThe Swampfather, on 13 March 2018 - 06:39 PM, said:

Pretty sure that once the laughter and jokes and fake shock die down lots of people here will be quite happy with Tillerson out. His appointment took heat here.



Thing is it's not so much the firing itself that's an issue over all his other firings, it's as noted by Tiste the blatantness with which it is a response to Tillerson criticising Russia.

I mean, Trump is really bottling the response to what is a war crime comitted against an ally.
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Posted 13 March 2018 - 09:56 PM

I’m not surprised really, Tillerson has a habit of Putin his foot in his mouth.
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 10:00 PM

Mueller subpoenas the Trump organisation

Not 100% what this actually means but I figure it's pretty huge right?
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Posted 15 March 2018 - 11:17 PM

View PostTiste Simeon, on 15 March 2018 - 10:00 PM, said:

Mueller subpoenas the Trump organisation

Not 100% what this actually means but I figure it's pretty huge right?


It means Mueller said they have to give up everything they have, not asked gently. If they refuse or don't give up everything they have (and should have), its illegal.

We'll see what happens, as this might freak trump out so much he starts firing more people.
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Posted 16 March 2018 - 04:01 PM

View PostObdigore, on 15 March 2018 - 11:17 PM, said:

View PostTiste Simeon, on 15 March 2018 - 10:00 PM, said:

Mueller subpoenas the Trump organisation

Not 100% what this actually means but I figure it's pretty huge right?


It means Mueller said they have to give up everything they have, not asked gently. If they refuse or don't give up everything they have (and should have), its illegal.

We'll see what happens, as this might freak trump out so much he starts firing more people.

I seem to remember Trump saying something about the red line is good organisation.

I mean if you definitely don't want someone coming after your organisation I can't think of many better ways to guarantee they *do* go after it by trekking then it's off limits...
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 01:07 PM

So, first thing I see on Reddit this morning was this megathread:

https://www.reddit.c...irector_andrew/

Trump, well through Sessions actually, fired former FBI deputy director McCabe. A couple days before he was eligible for his pension. A pretty big fuck you.

I only post this because I'm surprised at how fucking dumb the Trump Adminstration is. Now, it's no secret that Trump isn't really making friends with pretty much anyone in America who isn't a billionaire, but now he's done something that should raise the ire of most men and women working at the FBI. Or just any working citizen really.

I don't know what the general sentiment about McMasters was before this but just the signal it sends alone. How fucking dumb do you need to be that you go out of your way to make an enemy of the best bloodhounds the country has?
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 06:35 PM

Two words:

Cover. Up.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 08:43 PM

View PostAlternative Goose, on 17 March 2018 - 01:07 PM, said:

I only post this because I'm surprised at how fucking dumb the Trump Adminstration is.


Let me stop you right there.
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Posted 17 March 2018 - 09:21 PM

This isn't a big story in terms of day-to-day lives, but Trump's International Wildlife Conservation Council is literally made up of trophy hunting lobbyists and reality show stars.
https://www.motherjo...vation-council/
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Posted 21 March 2018 - 12:44 AM

These small bombings over and over in Austin are concerning; clear skill, deception, and no remorse. Worried about a larger one being set up.
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Posted 21 March 2018 - 12:56 PM

Whelp he dead now.
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Posted 21 March 2018 - 01:29 PM

Yep. Initial report is 24 yr old white male. Blew himself up when the police cornered him.
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Posted 21 March 2018 - 01:29 PM

Police actually killed a white terrorist?

I'm actually shocked.

edit - wait no of course they didn't.

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 10:38 PM

I'd just like to say it was nice posting with you ladies and gentleman in these final years of human existence.
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Posted 22 March 2018 - 11:11 PM

bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.
bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.
Oh bomb Iraaaaaan.
bomb Iraaaaaan.
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Posted 22 March 2018 - 11:16 PM

Trump's top lawyer Dowd is out. Rats leaving a sinking ship?
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Posted 22 March 2018 - 11:28 PM

I dunno, one can only hope. Do things ever get better again?

Also, DNC hacker Guccifer 2.0 was outed (or accidentally outed himself), and get this: he was a Russian Intelligence Officer, of all things.

https://www.thedaily...ligence-officer
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